Marcus Rashford - School Meals Vouchers Campaign

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Dromedary66 said:

Mafffew said:

WJNB said:

Like many others he goes on & on about his mother being a sole parent of 5 kids but no mention of the father(s). Interesting eh?

Why is that interesting? What is your point?

Personally I think having 5 children when you cannot even feed them is utterly negligent and the behaviour of a st human being.

What about if you could have easily fed all 5 of them when you had them but circumstances later on changed and you can no longer like through job loss or relationship breakdown?

Are they still st human beings??

[bitchstewie]

WJNB said:

Like many others he goes on & on about his mother being a sole parent of 5 kids but no mention of the father(s). Interesting eh?

Come again?

[JagLover]

Digga said:

Does not surprise. The political class are, in differing ways, all insulated from reality. Tories seem to have the same blindspots for some reason...

This is in no sense new.

Teachers have been talking for years about children returning from holidays hungry as they haven't been fed properly over the break. The summer voucher scheme will no doubt be here for good now and will represent a permanent £120million increase in the welfare budget.

If that does indeed prevent children being half starved over summer great. If however the parents trade the vouchers for the usual things then it wont have accomplished much. Past schemes to try and tackle this have been such actions as holiday clubs with food provided. That at least ensures that the children actually get fed as a result.

[mx5nut]

WJNB said:

Like many others he goes on & on about his mother being a sole parent of 5 kids but no mention of the father(s). Interesting eh?

Why is that interesting?

[Mafffew]

Dromedary66 said:

Mafffew said:

WJNB said:

Like many others he goes on & on about his mother being a sole parent of 5 kids but no mention of the father(s). Interesting eh?

Why is that interesting? What is your point?

Personally I think having 5 children when you cannot even feed them is utterly negligent and the behaviour of a st human being.

You have absolutely no clue of the circumstances, so your opinion is worthless.

[mx5nut]

Tankrizzo said:

cb31 said:

Is that a bad thing, it seems like you don't agree with it? He does the right thing and people complain, he doesn't do anything and people complain.

Weird isn't it, we accuse politicians of failing to listen, and when they do, we accuse them of u-turning and weak leadership. Very odd.

The U-Turn isn't the problem. The immediate knee jerk of stubbornly digging his heels in on every issue without thinking about it then needing to U-turn is.

[greygoose]

Dromedary66 said:

Personally I think having 5 children when you cannot even feed them is utterly negligent and the behaviour of a st human being.

If you won't say how many children you have, like a certain PM, then are you also a st human being?

[chrispmartha]

V8covin said:

chrispmartha said:

Why does the government need to help children that are being left hungry because of the effects of a global pandemic?

Really?

It will be a minority, pandemic or no pandemic.Some will always slip through the safety net,wether that be bad parenting or the system not fulfilling needs.
So I say again, there's a charity with £20 million in the coffers.....and presumably continuing to raise more.
Why does the taxpayer need to step in ?

Should the taxpayer step in for every need ?

Because maybe £20million whilst an amazing amount to raise might not be enough?

[mx5nut]

Dromedary66 said:

Mafffew said:

WJNB said:

Like many others he goes on & on about his mother being a sole parent of 5 kids but no mention of the father(s). Interesting eh?

Why is that interesting? What is your point?

Personally I think having 5 children when you cannot even feed them is utterly negligent and the behaviour of a st human being.

You have been lucky in your life to not have your circumstances change and had to suffer hardship. Many people aren't so lucky.

[chrispmartha]

Dromedary66 said:

Mafffew said:

WJNB said:

Like many others he goes on & on about his mother being a sole parent of 5 kids but no mention of the father(s). Interesting eh?

Why is that interesting? What is your point?

Personally I think having 5 children when you cannot even feed them is utterly negligent and the behaviour of a st human being.

Personally having no empathy and judging people when you know nothing about their circumstances is the behaviour of a st human being.

[chrispmartha]

young_bairn said:

This place is the pits nowadays, it really is. Attitudes so out of kilter with my own I wonder why I log in.

I was thinking the same TBH

[Jasey_]

mx5nut said:

Tankrizzo said:

cb31 said:

Is that a bad thing, it seems like you don't agree with it? He does the right thing and people complain, he doesn't do anything and people complain.

Weird isn't it, we accuse politicians of failing to listen, and when they do, we accuse them of u-turning and weak leadership. Very odd.

The U-Turn isn't the problem. The immediate knee jerk of stubbornly digging his heels in on every issue without thinking about it then needing to U-turn is.

Making retarded decisions in the first place is the problem. Any thinking stopping kids getting a decent meal durong a massive pandemic is a good idea needs to be sacked.

[mx5nut]

Eric Mc said:

Let poor people starve - the mantra of a certain section of society.

Hard to fathom really.

It's the section of society who have never fallen on hard times and can't imagine it happening to them or their loved ones.

[Jinx]

Jasey_ said:

Making retarded decisions in the first place is the problem. Any thinking stopping kids getting a decent meal durong a massive pandemic is a good idea needs to be sacked.

It wasn't the government's responsibility to feed kids during the summer holidays. This idea was recently mooted and the response was a "no plans to extend the scheme into the summer holidays" - as an alternative additional funding was offered to local authorities to help the most needy. This has now been extended to cover the original voucher scheme brought in to cover the "free school meals" no longer being provided during the pandemic.
No one is stopping kids getting a decent meal. Getting a decent meal is why I learned to cook (single parent, ex free school voucher kid).

[mx5nut]

Jasey_ said:

Making retarded decisions in the first place is the problem. Any thinking stopping kids getting a decent meal durong a massive pandemic is a good idea needs to be sacked.

No arguments here. It's embarrassing that it took a 22 year old footballer to make them wake up and see this.

[mx5nut]

greygoose said:

Dromedary66 said:

Personally I think having 5 children when you cannot even feed them is utterly negligent and the behaviour of a st human being.

If you won't say how many children you have, like a certain PM, then are you also a st human being?

[Zirconia]

mx5nut said:

Eric Mc said:

Let poor people starve - the mantra of a certain section of society.

Hard to fathom really.

It's the section of society who have never fallen on hard times and can't imagine it happening to them or their loved ones.

I know people that have been absolutely knocked back on their arses over this. They have not been able to get help, outside the furlough net and the system is an ass to deal with (Smith has a lot to answer for). They normally don't bother the state, keep noses clean and work hard, they have barely got through. They are in England so work is getting back to normal and cash flow again. Good job they are not in Wales.

[mx5nut]

snuffy said:

V88Dicky said:

They weren't much fun on a boiling hot June day in the late 70's though!

I can recall they when they'd been out in the school playground and covered in snow - lovely.

And also when sat in the playground with the sun beating down on them - more like a small bottle of warm sick.

That gave me some pretty vivid flashbacks

[bitchstewie]

Dromedary66 said:

Personally I think having 5 children when you cannot even feed them is utterly negligent and the behaviour of a st human being.

I used to think in a very similar way to that.

After all it's that simple right?

I'd simply encourage you to think of your own personal circumstances right now and how big or little of a nudge it would take to put you on your arse financially.

Perhaps not as big a one as you might think.

And even then it's a weird mindset that says "punish the children".

[Breeks]

Mafffew said:

Dromedary66 said:

Mafffew said:

WJNB said:

Like many others he goes on & on about his mother being a sole parent of 5 kids but no mention of the father(s). Interesting eh?

Why is that interesting? What is your point?

Personally I think having 5 children when you cannot even feed them is utterly negligent and the behaviour of a st human being.

You have absolutely no clue of the circumstances, so your opinion is worthless.

Indeed.....a lot of ivory tower residents on this thread, I'm really quite annoyed!

I'm a single dad with two young kids (6 and 8) - I'm gainfully employed but the situation right now is so precarious due to COVID that I could quite easily be out of work and trying hard to make ends meet, to be honest it doesn't bear thinking about (but I regularly do at 3 in the morning).

If the worst happened I'd like to think I'd be able to keep food on the table aswell as a roof over that table - but who knows.

To some on this thread I'd be viewed as a leech on society if I had to claim dole / free school meals / free school meals over the summer months.

My situation is one of unseen circumstances and there will be many others in the UK in exactly the same perilous position.