Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 10

[Evercross]

Lim said:

Evercross said:

So you keep saying!

However, your objectivity on the matter is fallacious. You are a flag waver for Sturgeon of that there can be no doubt. Whether that is in an official capacity or just your personal preference is moot.

So give me the counter?

There is no counter - you were presenting your own interpretation and projecting to your own preferable outcome.

I'd rather wait and see what actually happens.

[Lim]

Evercross said:

There is no counter

Well, indeed.

[biggbn]

ant1973 said:

That's good to hear.

Would you mind telling me how many hours of live teaching you are undertaking per week?

Personally I set a meeting through teams for every one of my lessons and I come into school and deliver my lessons from there, its what I get paid for! Attendance thus far has been better than I hoped, about 50% at best but that is out of my control.

[Lim]

A teacher friend of mine who is teaching from home, reports the aim at her school, is to have 'some' live element for every single timetabled lesson. She has young toddlers herself a home and no childcare, so teaching full lessons seems unrealistic in her case.

[Evercross]

Lim said:

Evercross said:

There is no counter

Well, indeed.

Self-fulfilling prophecy! Basically I said there was no answer to you because you were making things up, and you take that as confirmation of your fabrications.

I repeat - for you there is no hope.

[biggbn]

Lim said:

A teacher friend of mine who is teaching from home, reports the aim at her school, is to have 'some' live element for every single timetabled lesson. She has young toddlers herself a home and no childcare, so teaching full lessons seems unrealistic in her case.

Thats why I come into school, although my problem is three hyperactive dogs, not kids!! I think 'some' live element is what most teachers are aiming for and for the very reason you have cited. I am lucky in that my school allows us to come in and I have no reason not to. Online teaching is totally different and for me is a ten minute intro to the work, why we are doing it, what a positive outcome will look like, twenty minutes or so of the pupils working autonomously, then a twenty minute q and a live marking/assessment of what they have done. I am, however, 'live ' and available for the full 50 minute period as i set a live teams meeting for every lesson. Its all new to everyone, but this is the way I am choosing to do it

[Roderick Spode]

If anyone wishes to while away an amusing hour or two, Lesley Evans is to appear before the Salmond Enquiry at 11:00. Brew yourself a coffee and a sweetmeat of your preference, and settle down for a salutary lesson in evasion.

https://www.scottishparliament.tv/channel/virtual-...

[ant1973]

biggbn said:

ant1973 said:

That's good to hear.

Would you mind telling me how many hours of live teaching you are undertaking per week?

Personally I set a meeting through teams for every one of my lessons and I come into school and deliver my lessons from there, its what I get paid for! Attendance thus far has been better than I hoped, about 50% at best but that is out of my control.

It's now 10.30am and my youngest has finished his entire work for the day.

No live lessons.

I am pretty aghast.

[ant1973]

biggbn said:

Lim said:

A teacher friend of mine who is teaching from home, reports the aim at her school, is to have 'some' live element for every single timetabled lesson. She has young toddlers herself a home and no childcare, so teaching full lessons seems unrealistic in her case.

Thats why I come into school, although my problem is three hyperactive dogs, not kids!! I think 'some' live element is what most teachers are aiming for and for the very reason you have cited. I am lucky in that my school allows us to come in and I have no reason not to. Online teaching is totally different and for me is a ten minute intro to the work, why we are doing it, what a positive outcome will look like, twenty minutes or so of the pupils working autonomously, then a twenty minute q and a live marking/assessment of what they have done. I am, however, 'live ' and available for the full 50 minute period as i set a live teams meeting for every lesson. Its all new to everyone, but this is the way I am choosing to do it

Good for you. The kids are lucky to have you.

[biggbn]

ant1973 said:

biggbn said:

Lim said:

A teacher friend of mine who is teaching from home, reports the aim at her school, is to have 'some' live element for every single timetabled lesson. She has young toddlers herself a home and no childcare, so teaching full lessons seems unrealistic in her case.

Thats why I come into school, although my problem is three hyperactive dogs, not kids!! I think 'some' live element is what most teachers are aiming for and for the very reason you have cited. I am lucky in that my school allows us to come in and I have no reason not to. Online teaching is totally different and for me is a ten minute intro to the work, why we are doing it, what a positive outcome will look like, twenty minutes or so of the pupils working autonomously, then a twenty minute q and a live marking/assessment of what they have done. I am, however, 'live ' and available for the full 50 minute period as i set a live teams meeting for every lesson. Its all new to everyone, but this is the way I am choosing to do it

Good for you. The kids are lucky to have you.

[Roderick Spode]

ant1973 said:

biggbn said:

Lim said:

A teacher friend of mine who is teaching from home, reports the aim at her school, is to have 'some' live element for every single timetabled lesson. She has young toddlers herself a home and no childcare, so teaching full lessons seems unrealistic in her case.

Thats why I come into school, although my problem is three hyperactive dogs, not kids!! I think 'some' live element is what most teachers are aiming for and for the very reason you have cited. I am lucky in that my school allows us to come in and I have no reason not to. Online teaching is totally different and for me is a ten minute intro to the work, why we are doing it, what a positive outcome will look like, twenty minutes or so of the pupils working autonomously, then a twenty minute q and a live marking/assessment of what they have done. I am, however, 'live ' and available for the full 50 minute period as i set a live teams meeting for every lesson. Its all new to everyone, but this is the way I am choosing to do it

Good for you. The kids are lucky to have you.

Seconded. I have friends whose kids have received no live teaching whatsoever, the parents are left to home school entirely. Keep up the good work biggbn

[ant1973]

biggbn said:

ant1973 said:

biggbn said:

Lim said:

A teacher friend of mine who is teaching from home, reports the aim at her school, is to have 'some' live element for every single timetabled lesson. She has young toddlers herself a home and no childcare, so teaching full lessons seems unrealistic in her case.

Thats why I come into school, although my problem is three hyperactive dogs, not kids!! I think 'some' live element is what most teachers are aiming for and for the very reason you have cited. I am lucky in that my school allows us to come in and I have no reason not to. Online teaching is totally different and for me is a ten minute intro to the work, why we are doing it, what a positive outcome will look like, twenty minutes or so of the pupils working autonomously, then a twenty minute q and a live marking/assessment of what they have done. I am, however, 'live ' and available for the full 50 minute period as i set a live teams meeting for every lesson. Its all new to everyone, but this is the way I am choosing to do it

Good for you. The kids are lucky to have you.

Do you know if there is a Scottish Equivalent of this?

[biggbn]

ant1973 said:

biggbn said:

ant1973 said:

biggbn said:

Lim said:

A teacher friend of mine who is teaching from home, reports the aim at her school, is to have 'some' live element for every single timetabled lesson. She has young toddlers herself a home and no childcare, so teaching full lessons seems unrealistic in her case.

Thats why I come into school, although my problem is three hyperactive dogs, not kids!! I think 'some' live element is what most teachers are aiming for and for the very reason you have cited. I am lucky in that my school allows us to come in and I have no reason not to. Online teaching is totally different and for me is a ten minute intro to the work, why we are doing it, what a positive outcome will look like, twenty minutes or so of the pupils working autonomously, then a twenty minute q and a live marking/assessment of what they have done. I am, however, 'live ' and available for the full 50 minute period as i set a live teams meeting for every lesson. Its all new to everyone, but this is the way I am choosing to do it

Good for you. The kids are lucky to have you.

Do you know if there is a Scottish Equivalent of this?

I am in a Scottish school, we are using Teams which is a Microsoft app and Glow which I think most Scottish schools use..?

[ant1973]

biggbn said:

ant1973 said:

biggbn said:

ant1973 said:

biggbn said:

Lim said:

A teacher friend of mine who is teaching from home, reports the aim at her school, is to have 'some' live element for every single timetabled lesson. She has young toddlers herself a home and no childcare, so teaching full lessons seems unrealistic in her case.

Thats why I come into school, although my problem is three hyperactive dogs, not kids!! I think 'some' live element is what most teachers are aiming for and for the very reason you have cited. I am lucky in that my school allows us to come in and I have no reason not to. Online teaching is totally different and for me is a ten minute intro to the work, why we are doing it, what a positive outcome will look like, twenty minutes or so of the pupils working autonomously, then a twenty minute q and a live marking/assessment of what they have done. I am, however, 'live ' and available for the full 50 minute period as i set a live teams meeting for every lesson. Its all new to everyone, but this is the way I am choosing to do it

Good for you. The kids are lucky to have you.

Do you know if there is a Scottish Equivalent of this?

I am in a Scottish school, we are using Teams which is a Microsoft app and Glow which I think most Scottish schools use..?

The English have basically recorded their entire curriculum using teachers. There's a video lesson and an exercise to be undertaken.

It's really good. Pity the powers that be did not see the virtue in doing similar...

[Evercross]

ant1973 said:

The English have basically recorded their entire curriculum using teachers. There's a video lesson and an exercise to be undertaken.

It's really good. Pity the powers that be did not see the virtue in doing similar...

There's a reason for that - in England there is some competition in the qualifications 'market' for GCSEs, A-Levels etc. meaning the qualifications bodies produce high-quality resources which they offer as part of their package to schools in order to tempt them to go with that particular body.

No such competition exists in Scotland - the SQA is a monopoly so doesn't bother its shirt to do anything similar, and the only other organisation in Scotland that was tasked with producing teaching resources - Learning and Teaching Scotland (aka LTS) was subsumed into HM Inspectorate in Scotland as part of SNP cost-cutting. It was supposed to be a 'merger', but the resultant body - Education Scotland - has had zero original output since.

Its latest missive on Remote Learning was a few pages of re-assuring words and a pile of weblinks to other peoples' resources (mostly Heriot Watt Universities Scholar Program).

FYI I am currently firefighting technical issues in the background to keep all that 'home learning' running. Not long found out that all the Proxy Servers for the Glasgow schools connected devices have fallen over for the second day running.....

[biggbn]

Evercross said:

ant1973 said:

The English have basically recorded their entire curriculum using teachers. There's a video lesson and an exercise to be undertaken.

It's really good. Pity the powers that be did not see the virtue in doing similar...

There's a reason for that - in England there is some competition in the qualifications 'market' for GCSEs, A-Levels etc. meaning the qualifications bodies produce high-quality resources which they offer as part of their package to schools in order to tempt them to go with that particular body.

No such competition exists in Scotland - the SQA is a monopoly so doesn't bother its shirt to do anything similar, and the only other organisation in Scotland that was tasked with producing teaching resources - Learning and Teaching Scotland (aka LTS) was subsumed into HM Inspectorate in Scotland as part of SNP cost-cutting. It was supposed to be a 'merger', but the resultant body - Education Scotland - has had zero original output since.

Its latest missive on Remote Learning was a few pages of re-assuring words and a pile of weblinks to other peoples' resources (mostly Heriot Watt Universities Scholar Program).

FYI I am currently firefighting technical issues in the background to keep all that 'home learning' running. Not long found out that all the Proxy Servers for the Glasgow schools connected devices have fallen over for the second day running.....

I feel for you, this is quality control by end user stuff and the quality of the platforms have been found wanting. Here's hoping we get a quick resolution. The other thing is people fall into the trap of thinking its only low income families that struggle with home learning. Think about any family with perhaps mum and dad working from home and one or more kids. That's minimum three competent devices needed. I dont have that in my house! Peoples broadband varies hugely, their own competence varies hugely, its pretty much in its infacy the provision of this tech for this purpose, I hope its improvements are exponential over the next few weeks. Anyhow, three lessons down today, another two to go!!

Ps. Bloody schools freezing, feet are like ice!

[Evercross]

biggbn said:

Ps. Bloody schools freezing, feet are like ice!

Lemme guess - they are blaming 'Covid measures' for keeping all the windows wide open, even though you are probably the only person in a 25ft square room!

[ant1973]

Evercross said:

ant1973 said:

The English have basically recorded their entire curriculum using teachers. There's a video lesson and an exercise to be undertaken.

It's really good. Pity the powers that be did not see the virtue in doing similar...

There's a reason for that - in England there is some competition in the qualifications 'market' for GCSEs, A-Levels etc. meaning the qualifications bodies produce high-quality resources which they offer as part of their package to schools in order to tempt them to go with that particular body.

No such competition exists in Scotland - the SQA is a monopoly so doesn't bother its shirt to do anything similar, and the only other organisation in Scotland that was tasked with producing teaching resources - Learning and Teaching Scotland (aka LTS) was subsumed into HM Inspectorate in Scotland as part of SNP cost-cutting. It was supposed to be a 'merger', but the resultant body - Education Scotland - has had zero original output since.

Its latest missive on Remote Learning was a few pages of re-assuring words and a pile of weblinks to other peoples' resources (mostly Heriot Watt Universities Scholar Program).

FYI I am currently firefighting technical issues in the background to keep all that 'home learning' running. Not long found out that all the Proxy Servers for the Glasgow schools connected devices have fallen over for the second day running.....

I had rather naively assumed that server provision would be outsourced to ensure massive redundancy?

Please tell me there are not rooms of servers in schools and the like trying to support all of this....

[Evercross]

ant1973 said:

I had rather naively assumed that server provision would be outsourced to ensure massive redundancy?

Please tell me there are not rooms of servers in schools and the like trying to support all of this....

Not in schools, no, but the notion of 'massive redundancy' is a pipedream unfortunately.

[Roderick Spode]

Evercross said:

ant1973 said:

The English have basically recorded their entire curriculum using teachers. There's a video lesson and an exercise to be undertaken.

It's really good. Pity the powers that be did not see the virtue in doing similar...

There's a reason for that - in England there is some competition in the qualifications 'market' for GCSEs, A-Levels etc. meaning the qualifications bodies produce high-quality resources which they offer as part of their package to schools in order to tempt them to go with that particular body.

No such competition exists in Scotland - the SQA is a monopoly so doesn't bother its shirt to do anything similar, and the only other organisation in Scotland that was tasked with producing teaching resources - Learning and Teaching Scotland (aka LTS) was subsumed into HM Inspectorate in Scotland as part of SNP cost-cutting. It was supposed to be a 'merger', but the resultant body - Education Scotland - has had zero original output since.

Its latest missive on Remote Learning was a few pages of re-assuring words and a pile of weblinks to other peoples' resources (mostly Heriot Watt Universities Scholar Program).

FYI I am currently firefighting technical issues in the background to keep all that 'home learning' running. Not long found out that all the Proxy Servers for the Glasgow schools connected devices have fallen over for the second day running.....

I think the questioners on today's remote session at the Alex Salmond Enquiry could have done with your experience and expertise re. the provision of competent broadband and equipment - Murdo Fraser shut down by the convenor and not permitted to question Lesley Evans because his broadband was intermittent. This format cannot be used for Sturgeon and Salmond - proper scrutiny in person is the only possible option for these two, there is far too much at stake to risk it with poor IT, which the Chief Mammy would undoubtedly use to her advantage to filibuster the line of questioning.