Your voting intentions
Poll: Your voting intentions
Total Members Polled: 1195
Discussion
Oh, if anyone North of the border is even considering voting Green, then you should catch up with what Scottish Greens stand for and who they are. https://wingsoverscotland.com/adam-ramsay-is-defin...
princeperch said:
Ive been on ph for over 20 years.i dont think it has lurched to the left.
I do think that people have become poorer and more reliant on the state and low rates to supplement stagnated wages.
What people want, what it really boils down to is:
1. To be able to pay for an adequately sized and located home and put the heating on every now and then
2. To have the police turn up when their car is nicked or house broken into
3. Be able to get access to healthcare in a reasonable time frame
4. Send their kids to a school that isnt shocking
5. Be able to buy the food required for their needs
6. Be able to go on a holiday every now and then without feeling like they are living in misery and just existing
7. Have some hope for the future, whether it be retirement. Being able to afford to have kids, start a business, buy a house, whatever,.
Id suggest in one way or another, unless you are a millionaire living in a gated compound and you send your kids private and have private health insurance you will probably be feeling something from mild depression to despair over the state of the country.
I genuinely dont know anyone who thinks the country isnt on the skids and a firm downward trajectory at the moment, and my friends list covers people on minimum wage to those on 150k a year. Incidentally the bloke i know on 150k had his car nicked a few months back. It was found by a neighbour 10 mins away but theyd done something with the wireless entry and he couldnt get into it. The police never turned up, even after he waited several hours. In the end he let all the air out of the tyres and put a bike lock on one wheel and went home to try and sort it himself.
None will vote tory, if they have full use of their faculties because i and everyone else i know genuinely believe the country is on its knees. The conservatives are toast.
None of these will become a reality if Labour win this Election....... Better the devil you know than the bunch of muppets you don't know..... I would like to see Sunak gone though and replaced with Mordaunt.I do think that people have become poorer and more reliant on the state and low rates to supplement stagnated wages.
What people want, what it really boils down to is:
1. To be able to pay for an adequately sized and located home and put the heating on every now and then
2. To have the police turn up when their car is nicked or house broken into
3. Be able to get access to healthcare in a reasonable time frame
4. Send their kids to a school that isnt shocking
5. Be able to buy the food required for their needs
6. Be able to go on a holiday every now and then without feeling like they are living in misery and just existing
7. Have some hope for the future, whether it be retirement. Being able to afford to have kids, start a business, buy a house, whatever,.
Id suggest in one way or another, unless you are a millionaire living in a gated compound and you send your kids private and have private health insurance you will probably be feeling something from mild depression to despair over the state of the country.
I genuinely dont know anyone who thinks the country isnt on the skids and a firm downward trajectory at the moment, and my friends list covers people on minimum wage to those on 150k a year. Incidentally the bloke i know on 150k had his car nicked a few months back. It was found by a neighbour 10 mins away but theyd done something with the wireless entry and he couldnt get into it. The police never turned up, even after he waited several hours. In the end he let all the air out of the tyres and put a bike lock on one wheel and went home to try and sort it himself.
None will vote tory, if they have full use of their faculties because i and everyone else i know genuinely believe the country is on its knees. The conservatives are toast.
I think when it comes down to it, people won't go from Conservative to Labour, but maybe to Reform. Could see a Conservative/Reform/lib-dem coalition???
Worst thing a disgruntled conservative voter can do is to stay at home or spoil their vote, you might just as well vote Labour. That's shooting yourself in the foot.
God help the country if Starmer get's in.
I can see this election being a low turnout because nobody wants the either of the mainstream parties. But I guess that's bad for the Tories and good for Labour?
A lot of Tory voters will vote Lib Dem as that's what usually happens as a protest vote. Could the LD actually be the biggest opposition party? How much of an earthquake would be needed for that to happen?
A lot of Tory voters will vote Lib Dem as that's what usually happens as a protest vote. Could the LD actually be the biggest opposition party? How much of an earthquake would be needed for that to happen?
Starmer says he'd choose Davos and WEF over Westminster. Seems a bit strange to me...
https://x.com/BGatesIsaPyscho/status/1793544149821...
https://x.com/BGatesIsaPyscho/status/1793544149821...
princeperch said:
Ive been on ph for over 20 years.i dont think it has lurched to the left.
I do think that people have become poorer and more reliant on the state and low rates to supplement stagnated wages.
What people want, what it really boils down to is:
1. To be able to pay for an adequately sized and located home and put the heating on every now and then
2. To have the police turn up when their car is nicked or house broken into
3. Be able to get access to healthcare in a reasonable time frame
4. Send their kids to a school that isnt shocking
5. Be able to buy the food required for their needs
6. Be able to go on a holiday every now and then without feeling like they are living in misery and just existing
7. Have some hope for the future, whether it be retirement. Being able to afford to have kids, start a business, buy a house, whatever,.
Id suggest in one way or another, unless you are a millionaire living in a gated compound and you send your kids private and have private health insurance you will probably be feeling something from mild depression to despair over the state of the country.
I genuinely dont know anyone who thinks the country isnt on the skids and a firm downward trajectory at the moment, and my friends list covers people on minimum wage to those on 150k a year. Incidentally the bloke i know on 150k had his car nicked a few months back. It was found by a neighbour 10 mins away but theyd done something with the wireless entry and he couldnt get into it. The police never turned up, even after he waited several hours. In the end he let all the air out of the tyres and put a bike lock on one wheel and went home to try and sort it himself.
None will vote tory, if they have full use of their faculties because i and everyone else i know genuinely believe the country is on its knees. The conservatives are toast.
Wow, that's just about the perfect manifesto. Perhaps add water companies to reliably provide clean water and industry processing that you can safely swim at the beach.I do think that people have become poorer and more reliant on the state and low rates to supplement stagnated wages.
What people want, what it really boils down to is:
1. To be able to pay for an adequately sized and located home and put the heating on every now and then
2. To have the police turn up when their car is nicked or house broken into
3. Be able to get access to healthcare in a reasonable time frame
4. Send their kids to a school that isnt shocking
5. Be able to buy the food required for their needs
6. Be able to go on a holiday every now and then without feeling like they are living in misery and just existing
7. Have some hope for the future, whether it be retirement. Being able to afford to have kids, start a business, buy a house, whatever,.
Id suggest in one way or another, unless you are a millionaire living in a gated compound and you send your kids private and have private health insurance you will probably be feeling something from mild depression to despair over the state of the country.
I genuinely dont know anyone who thinks the country isnt on the skids and a firm downward trajectory at the moment, and my friends list covers people on minimum wage to those on 150k a year. Incidentally the bloke i know on 150k had his car nicked a few months back. It was found by a neighbour 10 mins away but theyd done something with the wireless entry and he couldnt get into it. The police never turned up, even after he waited several hours. In the end he let all the air out of the tyres and put a bike lock on one wheel and went home to try and sort it himself.
None will vote tory, if they have full use of their faculties because i and everyone else i know genuinely believe the country is on its knees. The conservatives are toast.
bobbo89 said:
I'll never not vote
Con and Lab are both unappealing for different reasons.
Track record for Con, useless and Conservative in name only.
Lab because I don't trust Starmer, he was/is a Corbynite and there's still plenty of them in the party, potentially dangerous.
Lib Dems and Greens are just full of fruitloops
Reform and Indy you may as well spoil or not turn up
We're f
ked aren't we?
basically, yesCon and Lab are both unappealing for different reasons.
Track record for Con, useless and Conservative in name only.
Lab because I don't trust Starmer, he was/is a Corbynite and there's still plenty of them in the party, potentially dangerous.
Lib Dems and Greens are just full of fruitloops
Reform and Indy you may as well spoil or not turn up
We're f
ked aren't we? For the first time in my long life I have no idea who I'll vote for.
They all seem to be just career politicians whose main aim is to feather their own nest with high salary, expenses and a good pension at the end of it.
None of them seem to have a strong leader who can actually sort out this country.
As A.J.M. above, I'll probably vote for the party most likely to oust the SNP.
princeperch said:
What people want, what it really boils down to is:
1. To be able to pay for an adequately sized and located home and put the heating on every now and then
2. To have the police turn up when their car is nicked or house broken into
3. Be able to get access to healthcare in a reasonable time frame
4. Send their kids to a school that isnt shocking
5. Be able to buy the food required for their needs
6. Be able to go on a holiday every now and then without feeling like they are living in misery and just existing
7. Have some hope for the future, whether it be retirement. Being able to afford to have kids, start a business, buy a house, whatever,.
You also did miss out - 1. To be able to pay for an adequately sized and located home and put the heating on every now and then
2. To have the police turn up when their car is nicked or house broken into
3. Be able to get access to healthcare in a reasonable time frame
4. Send their kids to a school that isnt shocking
5. Be able to buy the food required for their needs
6. Be able to go on a holiday every now and then without feeling like they are living in misery and just existing
7. Have some hope for the future, whether it be retirement. Being able to afford to have kids, start a business, buy a house, whatever,.
8. Have someone else pay for it
bobbo89 said:
I'll never not vote
Con and Lab are both unappealing for different reasons.
Track record for Con, useless and Conservative in name only.
Lab because I don't trust Starmer, he was/is a Corbynite and there's still plenty of them in the party, potentially dangerous.
Lib Dems and Greens are just full of fruitloops
Reform and Indy you may as well spoil or not turn up
We're fked aren't we?
Can you name a LibDem "fruitloop"? Either a person or a policy. It's been a while since Lembit Opik darkened the doors of Parliament...Con and Lab are both unappealing for different reasons.
Track record for Con, useless and Conservative in name only.
Lab because I don't trust Starmer, he was/is a Corbynite and there's still plenty of them in the party, potentially dangerous.
Lib Dems and Greens are just full of fruitloops
Reform and Indy you may as well spoil or not turn up
We're f
ked aren't we? Jordie Barretts sock said:
I can see this election being a low turnout because nobody wants the either of the mainstream parties. But I guess that's bad for the Tories and good for Labour?
A lot of Tory voters will vote Lib Dem as that's what usually happens as a protest vote. Could the LD actually be the biggest opposition party? How much of an earthquake would be needed for that to happen?
I certainly think the LDs are going to take a number of seats in the SE. Be good if they could get up to 30 seats. A lot of Tory voters will vote Lib Dem as that's what usually happens as a protest vote. Could the LD actually be the biggest opposition party? How much of an earthquake would be needed for that to happen?
I can totally get with the 'careful what you wish for' warnings with Labour, but I am another one in the anything but SNP camp so tactical voting is where I am.
No sitting MP for me ascoke KitKat-fiend Mhairi Black is finally going to do what she said she was going to do in 2017 and step down. Guess she thought banking another 7 years of Westminster salary would keep her in white powder chocolate biscuits well into her 'retirement'.
It would be wonderful to hear that Douglas Alexander (the man Black ousted in 2015) was standing as Labour candidate as he was a great local MP and would get my vote regardless of what party he represented.
No sitting MP for me as
It would be wonderful to hear that Douglas Alexander (the man Black ousted in 2015) was standing as Labour candidate as he was a great local MP and would get my vote regardless of what party he represented.
Edited by Evercross on Thursday 23 May 11:32
super7 said:
princeperch said:
Ive been on ph for over 20 years.i dont think it has lurched to the left.
I do think that people have become poorer and more reliant on the state and low rates to supplement stagnated wages.
What people want, what it really boils down to is:
1. To be able to pay for an adequately sized and located home and put the heating on every now and then
2. To have the police turn up when their car is nicked or house broken into
3. Be able to get access to healthcare in a reasonable time frame
4. Send their kids to a school that isnt shocking
5. Be able to buy the food required for their needs
6. Be able to go on a holiday every now and then without feeling like they are living in misery and just existing
7. Have some hope for the future, whether it be retirement. Being able to afford to have kids, start a business, buy a house, whatever,.
Id suggest in one way or another, unless you are a millionaire living in a gated compound and you send your kids private and have private health insurance you will probably be feeling something from mild depression to despair over the state of the country.
I genuinely dont know anyone who thinks the country isnt on the skids and a firm downward trajectory at the moment, and my friends list covers people on minimum wage to those on 150k a year. Incidentally the bloke i know on 150k had his car nicked a few months back. It was found by a neighbour 10 mins away but theyd done something with the wireless entry and he couldnt get into it. The police never turned up, even after he waited several hours. In the end he let all the air out of the tyres and put a bike lock on one wheel and went home to try and sort it himself.
None will vote tory, if they have full use of their faculties because i and everyone else i know genuinely believe the country is on its knees. The conservatives are toast.
None of these will become a reality if Labour win this Election....... Better the devil you know than the bunch of muppets you don't know..... I would like to see Sunak gone though and replaced with Mordaunt.I do think that people have become poorer and more reliant on the state and low rates to supplement stagnated wages.
What people want, what it really boils down to is:
1. To be able to pay for an adequately sized and located home and put the heating on every now and then
2. To have the police turn up when their car is nicked or house broken into
3. Be able to get access to healthcare in a reasonable time frame
4. Send their kids to a school that isnt shocking
5. Be able to buy the food required for their needs
6. Be able to go on a holiday every now and then without feeling like they are living in misery and just existing
7. Have some hope for the future, whether it be retirement. Being able to afford to have kids, start a business, buy a house, whatever,.
Id suggest in one way or another, unless you are a millionaire living in a gated compound and you send your kids private and have private health insurance you will probably be feeling something from mild depression to despair over the state of the country.
I genuinely dont know anyone who thinks the country isnt on the skids and a firm downward trajectory at the moment, and my friends list covers people on minimum wage to those on 150k a year. Incidentally the bloke i know on 150k had his car nicked a few months back. It was found by a neighbour 10 mins away but theyd done something with the wireless entry and he couldnt get into it. The police never turned up, even after he waited several hours. In the end he let all the air out of the tyres and put a bike lock on one wheel and went home to try and sort it himself.
None will vote tory, if they have full use of their faculties because i and everyone else i know genuinely believe the country is on its knees. The conservatives are toast.
I think when it comes down to it, people won't go from Conservative to Labour, but maybe to Reform. Could see a Conservative/Reform/lib-dem coalition???
Worst thing a disgruntled conservative voter can do is to stay at home or spoil their vote, you might just as well vote Labour. That's shooting yourself in the foot.
God help the country if Starmer get's in.
They're staffed by the same kinds of people - PPE grads and researchers - who regularly move from one to the other because the job's essentially the same.
And the alternative parties aren't any use as a protest vote, quite apart from the fact they're full of either spivs or fruitloops (or both), they allow the main parties to claim that the 'protest voters' just need the right offering and they'll be wooed back - so the circle of promise and disappointment continues.
Cock and balls on the ballot paper for me - I can't not vote, it just isn't in me, but I can at least send the message that while I'll turn up, I won't endorse any of the useless planks on offer.
S600BSB said:
I certainly think the LDs are going to take a number of seats in the SE. Be good if they could get up to 30 seats.
As long as they get more seats than the SNP that is a result as it places them as second opposition, meaning we don't have to hear SNP grievances any more at Prime Minister's Questions (plus the SNP are likely to go bankrupt before the Scottish Elections due to losing the short money that comes with being second opposition at Westminster).jshell said:
Starmer says he'd choose Davos and WEF over Westminster. Seems a bit strange to me...
https://x.com/BGatesIsaPyscho/status/1793544149821...
The absolute state of that guys twitter feed.https://x.com/BGatesIsaPyscho/status/1793544149821...
CivicDuties said:
bobbo89 said:
I'll never not vote
Con and Lab are both unappealing for different reasons.
Track record for Con, useless and Conservative in name only.
Lab because I don't trust Starmer, he was/is a Corbynite and there's still plenty of them in the party, potentially dangerous.
Lib Dems and Greens are just full of fruitloops
Reform and Indy you may as well spoil or not turn up
We're fked aren't we?
Can you name a LibDem "fruitloop"? Either a person or a policy. It's been a while since Lembit Opik darkened the doors of Parliament...Con and Lab are both unappealing for different reasons.
Track record for Con, useless and Conservative in name only.
Lab because I don't trust Starmer, he was/is a Corbynite and there's still plenty of them in the party, potentially dangerous.
Lib Dems and Greens are just full of fruitloops
Reform and Indy you may as well spoil or not turn up
We're f
ked aren't we? 
chrispmartha said:
jshell said:
Starmer says he'd choose Davos and WEF over Westminster. Seems a bit strange to me...
https://x.com/BGatesIsaPyscho/status/1793544149821...
The absolute state of that guys twitter feed.https://x.com/BGatesIsaPyscho/status/1793544149821...
Roderick Spode said:
CivicDuties said:
bobbo89 said:
I'll never not vote
Con and Lab are both unappealing for different reasons.
Track record for Con, useless and Conservative in name only.
Lab because I don't trust Starmer, he was/is a Corbynite and there's still plenty of them in the party, potentially dangerous.
Lib Dems and Greens are just full of fruitloops
Reform and Indy you may as well spoil or not turn up
We're fked aren't we?
Can you name a LibDem "fruitloop"? Either a person or a policy. It's been a while since Lembit Opik darkened the doors of Parliament...Con and Lab are both unappealing for different reasons.
Track record for Con, useless and Conservative in name only.
Lab because I don't trust Starmer, he was/is a Corbynite and there's still plenty of them in the party, potentially dangerous.
Lib Dems and Greens are just full of fruitloops
Reform and Indy you may as well spoil or not turn up
We're f
ked aren't we? Evercross said:
I can totally get with the 'careful what you wish for' warnings with Labour, but I am another one in the anything but SNP camp so tactical voting is where I am.
No sitting MP for me ascoke KitKat-fiend Mhairi Black is finally going to do what she said she was going to do in 2017 and step down. Guess she thought banking another 7 years of Westminster salary would keep her in white powder chocolate biscuits well into her 'retirement'.
It would be wonderful to hear that Douglas Alexander (the man Black ousted in 2015) was standing as Labour candidate as he was a great local MP and would get my vote regardless of what party he represented.
Douglas Alexander is standing as the Labour candidate for East Lothian. Agree he is an excellent chap - pretty sure SKS will have him in a ministerial role if he is elected. No sitting MP for me as
It would be wonderful to hear that Douglas Alexander (the man Black ousted in 2015) was standing as Labour candidate as he was a great local MP and would get my vote regardless of what party he represented.
Edited by Evercross on Thursday 23 May 11:32
119 said:
chrispmartha said:
jshell said:
Starmer says he'd choose Davos and WEF over Westminster. Seems a bit strange to me...
https://x.com/BGatesIsaPyscho/status/1793544149821...
The absolute state of that guys twitter feed.https://x.com/BGatesIsaPyscho/status/1793544149821...
Meh.
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