Asian "Squat" Loo

[OnTheOverrun]

Muntu said:

V8mate said:

GlenMH said:

OnTheOverrun said:

I wonder how many of the target audience these toilets are designed to patronise have squat holes at home. . . . . . I'd be willing to bet zero.

You may be right about that but, as pointed out above by factory/office workers, they may well be using a "sitter" as a "squatter".

As for those worried about a clothing/crap incident, just take your trousers off before you start. At the very least, empty the back pockets of your jeans...

Take your trousers off? Completely?

You'd have to take your shoes off to do that... in a public toilet...which is at ground level.

Are you sure you mean 'off'?

I guess you must mean 'off' as I doubt you feel that anyone needs reminding to take their trousers 'down' before commencing proceedings.

You can't be serious.

If you don't take them off completely, you may struggle to avoid urinating on them?

Apologies for any mental images this may conjure up

Having used these holes in my various exercursions round the world I can confirm they are not designed to be compatible with western trousers. They are designed with wearers of salwars and similar 'pyjama' style trouser wear which is loose, flexible and frequently elasticated making grasping a handful of waistband whilst they are round your ankles and pulling them forward out of the line of fire feasible. Not possible with suit trousers.

The other problem is you need to be fairly fit to use them - squatting is difficult for me with my disabled right leg, then you need one hand to steady yourself and one hand to pull your trousers forward. Once the deed is done you are faced with an alarming dilemma - which hand do I use to wipe? Should I sacrifice the steadying hand and risk falling into my recent evacuation and the remains of others or do I sacrifice the hand keeping my gusset clear of the action and risk it collecting the results of the clean and rinse?

Not a good piece of design from any angle I'm afraid.

[grumbledoak]

OnTheOverrun said:

Not a good piece of design from any angle I'm afraid.

Design? It's a fking hole in the ground. Even the Romans did better, two thousand years ago. Re-introducing this just because we have a sizeable minority from "3rd world sthole-stan" is madness.

[HundredthIdiot]

There seem to be two distinct issues - squatting and wiping.

Surely it's possible to just use toilet paper with a squat loo and get the best of both worlds?

[OnTheOverrun]

HundredthIdiot said:

Surely it's possible to just use toilet paper with a squat loo and get the best of both worlds?

Only if you have three arms or very good squatting balance or no trousers. . . . . .

[tinman0]

RacingPete said:

tinman0 said:

article said:

With one in ten of Rochdale's population of Pakistani or Bangladeshi origin, centre managers say they have been told some members of the local Asian community prefer them for cultural reasons

I would suggest that the operators better be very clear that within 6 months their trade could well be 1/10th of what it originally was.

As soon as the average female works out that she'll be crapping in a hole if she has to visit the bogs in this place, she'll shop elsewhere.

And thats exactly how the fairer sex will see it - crapping in a hole. They'll see it as degrading and humiliating.

I reckon this plan will be reversed within 6 months.

Little pop quiz for all over sensationalising this, just to check those that read the article... How many toilets are being changed for this new long drop: a)all of them, or b) one of them per loo? - doesn't seem that much different to adding a disabled toilet to cater for a demographic of the local population!

lol, i missed that bit

Still, I reckon it will be withdrawn in the future even if it is a single crapping hole.

There is always a queue for the ladies (worldwide problem), and the female thought that they might get the short straw and get to crap in a hole will be enough to put women away from this place.

And frankly, this is all rubbish anyway. If the "culturally" challenged don't like sitting on a seat, then simply crouch over it. Same difference, different collection height, still crapping in a hole at the end of the day.

[RacingPete]

tinman0 said:

Still, I reckon it will be withdrawn in the future even if it is a single crapping hole.

There is always a queue for the ladies (worldwide problem), and the female thought that they might get the short straw and get to crap in a hole will be enough to put women away from this place.

And frankly, this is all rubbish anyway. If the "culturally" challenged don't like sitting on a seat, then simply crouch over it. Same difference, different collection height, still crapping in a hole at the end of the day.

Though you haven't been clubbing in Rochdale then... I went once and the girls were happy to squat on a urinal*

* Though I would point out that this was no doubt a small minority of the total population, but then it was nice to see them being catered for

[zcacogp]

grumbledoak said:

OnTheOverrun said:

Not a good piece of design from any angle I'm afraid.

Design? It's a fking hole in the ground. Even the Romans did better, two thousand years ago. Re-introducing this just because we have a sizeable minority from "3rd world sthole-stan" is madness.

Nail. Head.


Oli.

[kerplunk]

"Not a good piece of design from any angle I'm afraid."



Oncologists have observed that 80% of colon cancers occur in the caecum and the sigmoid colon, the two areas that are not fully evacuated in the sitting posture. This causes fecal stagnation and probably explains why colon cancer is the second leading cause of cancer deaths in the United States. In traditional Asian and African cultures where squatting is the norm, colon cancer is virtually unknown!

http://www.relfe.com/toilet_seat_constipation.html

[carmonk]

kerplunk said:

"Not a good piece of design from any angle I'm afraid."



Oncologists have observed that 80% of colon cancers occur in the caecum and the sigmoid colon, the two areas that are not fully evacuated in the sitting posture. This causes fecal stagnation and probably explains why colon cancer is the second leading cause of cancer deaths in the United States. In traditional Asian and African cultures where squatting is the norm, colon cancer is virtually unknown!

http://www.relfe.com/toilet_seat_constipation.html

Certainly sounds convincing, from the person who believes cancer can be cured by Maple syrup and baking soda

http://www.relfe.com/2008/baking_soda_maple_syrup_...

[grumbledoak]

Yes, but kerplunk just has to believe things are true, and then they are.

[kerplunk]

grumbledoak said:

Yes, but kerplunk just has to believe things are true, and then they are.

You're an angry man.

That was just the first website I came across that echoed stuff 'what I have heard' and offered here for discussion.

Here's a more referenced page on the subject but I freely admit to not being an authority - feel free to knock it down. I'm all ears.

http://www.naturesplatform.com/health_benefits.htm...

[OnTheOverrun]

kerplunk said:

grumbledoak said:

Yes, but kerplunk just has to believe things are true, and then they are.

You're an angry man.

That was just the first website I came across that echoed stuff 'what I have heard' and offered here for discussion.

Here's a more referenced page on the subject but I freely admit to not being an authority - feel free to knock it down. I'm all ears.

http://www.naturesplatform.com/health_benefits.htm...

The whole point of that entirely self-serving site is to try and sell you this piece of plastic ste:



. . . . . . for $158!

Have you bought one kerplunk as you're such a believer?

[chris watton]

It’s on BBR2 now (Squat toilets), Vine’s speaking to a “Community Cohesion officer” (or something like that), from the council.

[kerplunk]

OnTheOverrun said:

kerplunk said:

grumbledoak said:

Yes, but kerplunk just has to believe things are true, and then they are.

You're an angry man.

That was just the first website I came across that echoed stuff 'what I have heard' and offered here for discussion.

Here's a more referenced page on the subject but I freely admit to not being an authority - feel free to knock it down. I'm all ears.

http://www.naturesplatform.com/health_benefits.htm...

The whole point of that entirely self-serving site is to try and sell you this piece of plastic ste:



. . . . . . for $158!

so it is...err, what a bargain!

OnTheOverrun said:

Have you bought one kerplunk as you're such a believer?

nah I have a regular western john but I think my long legs are an advantage for getting closer to the 'ideal' well out of reach for short-arses using the same. No problem squatting when needs must though and got my technique down many years ago on camping trips in france. Comes in handy sometimes at music festivals and the like.

Edited by kerplunk on Friday 16th July 14:22

[jesta1865]

HundredthIdiot said:

There seem to be two distinct issues - squatting and wiping.

Surely it's possible to just use toilet paper with a squat loo and get the best of both worlds?

to be honest i would be quite happy with the water jet idea.

my issue would be that some of the pills i have to take daily being diabetic can cause me to get an upset stomach (really badly sometimes).

considering the mess that a normal loo can get into when someone has an upset stomach, this would be a retrograde step for the person who came in after.

i also realise that a lot of medical research says its better to squat, but lets be honest, its a damn site harder to read FHM or whatever squatting

[3sixty]

Haven't read the entire thread, although it has left me laughing a lot hearing you guys describe the experience.

My OH is from Malaysia, so I've had years of "experience" using these there and also in transit in Dubai.

I'm always reminded of the time when I was in Dubai airport, going to the toilet. Yorkshire bloke in front of me, denim shirt on. Queue for the cubicles, one becomes free, he walks up and opens the door. Turns back to me in the queue (Realising I am white and I guess presuming I'm English) and says in the broadest Yorkshire accent "Bloody hell, theres no toilet and the scruffy bd has done it all over the fookin' floor" while pulling his shirt collar over his nose.

Had me in hysterics.

Edited by 3sixty on Friday 16th July 15:47

[XJSJohn]

V8mate said:

GlenMH said:

OnTheOverrun said:

I wonder how many of the target audience these toilets are designed to patronise have squat holes at home. . . . . . I'd be willing to bet zero.

You may be right about that but, as pointed out above by factory/office workers, they may well be using a "sitter" as a "squatter".

As for those worried about a clothing/crap incident, just take your trousers off before you start. At the very least, empty the back pockets of your jeans...

Take your trousers off? Completely?

You'd have to take your shoes off to do that... in a public toilet...which is at ground level.

Are you sure you mean 'off'?

I guess you must mean 'off' as I doubt you feel that anyone needs reminding to take their trousers 'down' before commencing proceedings.

You can't be serious.

best way to use a squatter is fully "tackle out"

also less chance of slipping and winding up head first in the bog!!

[Sheets Tabuer]

How are you supposed to use these after 40, do you get handles? do you get gripping handles for the day after beer?

[anonymous-user]

I remember my first tri to Pakistan. I was staying at my grandads farm and i dreaded going to the loo. A number 1 was easy but 2 was a pain! I couldnt squat for long, i was very concious about my aim and in the end i would hold onto my dumps as long as possible.

In the end i even refused to visit some relatives after i learnt that they have the wrong type of toilet!

I think the squat toilet should be banned from the UK!

[OnTheOverrun]

Sheets Tabuer said:

How are you supposed to use these after 40, do you get handles? do you get gripping handles for the day after beer?

And even if you do get handles, do you really want to grip them?