Same Sex Parenting - For it or against it?

[Magic919]

Should have stuck to the mute procrastination! :-)

[Kermit power]

I voted in favour of letting gay couples adopt, but against allowing them to become surrogate parents.

This has nothing to do with the fact that they are gay, and everything to do with the fact that I am opposed to artificial conception methods whilst there are children in need of adoption.

Whatever way you look at it, if anything happened to cause my kids to be taken into care, I'd much rather they were raised in a loving home than left feeling unwanted in some stty kids' home somewhere, regardless of the sexuality of the adoptive parents.

[deeps]

MOTORVATOR said:

No not trolling, badly worded - clearly it is a choice, but I do accept that choice may have been made for you. There will always be polar sides of an argument like that so I find it safer to sit squarely in the middle!

Just to put you straight MOTO, there is no choosing sexuality, a man can't choose what gives him a boner. There is of course choice in acting upon it, although looking back that could be roughly what've you've said above

[eldar]

My instinct says this isn't right, a child has a mother and a father, not two fathers and an anonymous and uninvolved mother. In a perfect world every child would have a mummy and a daddy, who loves, cherishes and cares for them.

This isn't some 1950s idyllic world, though, and loves, cherishes and cares is the important bit, regardless of how the parents have their sex.

So I'd vote yes, OK, but I'm a little uneasy about it.

[Kermit power]

Where is a child who has lost its biological parents most likely to be buggered by the responsible adult in charge of it? In the home of a gay couple who have been scrupulously checked and vetted, or in the care of the Catholic Church?

I know which I'd choose if it were me!

[MOTORVATOR]

Magic919 said:

Should have stuck to the mute procrastination! :-)

Carry on, you're going about this the right way to get a severe bumming from me. We'll see about your opinions after that.

[Fort Jefferson]

I'm more worried about old people having kids, than I am about what sex they are.

And Elton John is to old.

[stitched]

Fairly predictable unpleasantness here.
I think what they have done is unfair on the kid, it's hardly going to be long before he realises there are slight differences between his situation and that of other kids.
Now with all the reports on this happy event the child, at quite an early stage, is going to have to come to terms with.
Being the son of a celebrity.
Being the son of a mother who had him for financial gain, who I assume is quite happy never to set eyes on him.
Having homosexual parents.
Knowing everyone he meets is also aware of the above.

I honestly struggle to believe he will cope but wish him the very best of luck.

[MOTORVATOR]

deeps said:

MOTORVATOR said:

No not trolling, badly worded - clearly it is a choice, but I do accept that choice may have been made for you. There will always be polar sides of an argument like that so I find it safer to sit squarely in the middle!

Just to put you straight MOTO, there is no choosing sexuality, a man can't choose what gives him a boner. There is of course choice in acting upon it, although looking back that could be roughly what've you've said above

I know what you are saying, I've often felt a twinge when walking behind my labrador but I tend to keep it to myself.

[deeps]

MOTORVATOR said:

I know what you are saying, I've often felt a twinge when walking behind my labrador but I tend to keep it to myself.

Why did I think of sheep then nothing wrong with the Welsh.

[Engineer1]

It's the quality of the parenting that matters not the plumbing and orientation of the parents that matters.

[deeps]

Engineer, you don't think a kid has the right to a have a mother then?

[groucho]

I'm not sure it is right for a child to be brought up seeing two males, which are dad, sleep together every night. This must influence the kid's sexuality?

Logically speaking homosexuality is an evloutionary dead end so is not the norm.

[Kermit power]

deeps said:

Engineer, you don't think a kid has the right to a have a mother then?

Of course not. It's merely a biological fact.

If it were a right, then any kid whose mother died would be entitled to a new mother, surely?

[AlexC1981]

Hmm.........now if I could make the decision to be brought up by two dads or to not exist at all, what would I choose?

Personally, I think gingers should be prevented from having children also, in case their children get bullied at school.

[deeps]

Kermit power said:

deeps said:

Engineer, you don't think a kid has the right to a have a mother then?

Of course not. It's merely a biological fact.

If it were a right, then any kid whose mother died would be entitled to a new mother, surely?

Maybe "right" was a poor choice of word, how about a chance to have a mother?

[Kermit power]

deeps said:

Kermit power said:

deeps said:

Engineer, you don't think a kid has the right to a have a mother then?

Of course not. It's merely a biological fact.

If it were a right, then any kid whose mother died would be entitled to a new mother, surely?

Maybe "right" was a poor choice of word, how about a chance to have a mother?

I think that kids should have a right to a loving home environment. Beyond that, I'm not too worried.

I would still ban surrogacy and other artificial conception methods whilst there are kids not enjoying that right though. Especially when people expect the taxpayer to cough up for their conception attempts!

[deeps]

groucho said:

I'm not sure it is right for a child to be brought up seeing two males, which are dad, sleep together every night. This must influence the kid's sexuality?

Not really, gay people are brought up by hetero parents on the whole, but that doesn't turn them straight.

groucho said:

Logically speaking homosexuality is an evloutionary dead end so is not the norm.

It is not the norm but it is normal. Nature ensures that 2 - 3% of humans are born homosexual, why is anyone's guess.

[Eric Mc]

deeps said:

groucho said:

I'm not sure it is right for a child to be brought up seeing two males, which are dad, sleep together every night. This must influence the kid's sexuality?

Not really, gay people are brought up by hetero parents on the whole, but that doesn't turn them straight.

groucho said:

Logically speaking homosexuality is an evloutionary dead end so is not the norm.

It is not the norm but it is normal. Nature ensures that 2 - 3% of humans are born homosexual, why is anyone's guess.

To provide the BBC with a supply of chat-show hosts?

[Jasandjules]

Plenty of straight couples are appalling parents with no desire to care for their offspring.

I don't care if they are black/white/yellow/Gay/Straight/Bi - They can still be good parents.

And being a good parent is all that matters when a child is involved.