Lad killed by US wrong side driver, who's done a bunk...
Discussion
Breadvan72 said:
She's a cowardly adult but I agree that a face to face confrontation would achieve nothing.
On an emotional mother to mother basis it would give her a proper punch in the conscience.The case is dead,Biden has signed it off,in some respects the Trump meeting was a missed opportunity to look her in the eye and ask for an apology, something which will now never happen.
vaud said:
Per wikipedia:
During the same time period, the UK submitted 54 extradition REQUESTS to the US, of which none have been refused. Of those 54 requests, 38 resulted in extradition of an individual from the US to the UK. In the remaining 16 cases, the individuals either returned to the UK on their own or other circumstances made extradition from the US to the UK no longer necessary.
How many were US citizens?During the same time period, the UK submitted 54 extradition REQUESTS to the US, of which none have been refused. Of those 54 requests, 38 resulted in extradition of an individual from the US to the UK. In the remaining 16 cases, the individuals either returned to the UK on their own or other circumstances made extradition from the US to the UK no longer necessary.
Breadvan72 said:
Trump ambushed the family with a suggestion made without notice of a meeting with Sacoolas, for which the family were not prepared. It was a cheesy stunt by Trump, as usual. I do not blame the family for not being railroaded into a meeting on that occasion.
She was in "the next room", wasn't she? I would have gone for that, not ideal, but at least it would have called Trump's bluff.996Type said:
Breadvan72 said:
996Type said:
If she worked for Intelligence as the article states, would it not raise questions regards her capabilities in the field if she didn’t even know which side of the road to be on in the country she was posted?
What an odd thing to say. Any human working in any field can make a stupid mistake.Also, whether Sacoolas is any good at whatever her job is has zero relevance to the incident and its aftermath.
PS: You know, I take it, that the word "Intelligence" in a military context is not a reference to how smart a person is.
Edited by Breadvan72 on Thursday 4th February 08:48
There would be extensive aptitude tests to progress and get to such postings. A posting to the U.K. would require a briefing regards local customs etc among many other things. If she is in such a role, ability to process this information for her safety and those around her would be part of the fabric of what she does.
Yes, I understand the meaning of the word intelligence in the context of the article thank and that was entirely my point.
If she was ignorant to such a fundamental fact (which side of the road to be on), it shows at least part of that brief (regards her job and her subsequent presence / safety here in the U.K. as a representative of the U.S.) has been ignored, forgotten or disregarded.
A stupid mistake is one thing, but she wasn’t a tourist straight off a plane driving the wrong way around the M25, again as the article states.
Especially as the consequence of this one stupid mistake (which would have been covered during the posting brief to prevent this very type of incident) has (a) killed someone and (b) raised the profile of her presence here. If that wouldn’t raise questions of capability regards aptitude for the particular role she allegedly held, I’m not sure what would.
Breadvan72 said:
There are all sorts of humdrum jobs in intelligence, but whether Sacoolas was making the tea, running the Global spook network, or doing slo-mo gunfights with an Uzi in each hands is irrelevant to the making of the driving error.
It was her husband in Intelligence and she received immunity based on that, she had no official role whilst in the UK, she was just the wife of a serviceman.https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-northamptons...
jsf said:
Breadvan72 said:
There are all sorts of humdrum jobs in intelligence, but whether Sacoolas was making the tea, running the Global spook network, or doing slo-mo gunfights with an Uzi in each hands is irrelevant to the making of the driving error.
It was her husband in Intelligence and she received immunity based on that, she had no official role whilst in the UK, she was just the wife of a serviceman.https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-northamptons...
I just automatically presumed she was over here on behalf of Bill Gates to oversee the injection of 5G chips into the Covid vaccines. The poor kid was one of the first test pilots for the vaccine and when he threatened to go to the press they killed him and blamed it on a road accident. At the time of the 'accident' Sacoolas was actually already back in the States preparing the final batch of Covid infected pangolins ready to send to Wuhan with Fauci and his entourage. She lived in the White House which is why she was already there when Dunn's family were invited to meet her. It's all there on the internet, you can check for yourself.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/02/04/govern...
Has anyone seen or have any comments on this? It's possible she was actually employed and not just "the wife of" thereby removing her immunity.
Has anyone seen or have any comments on this? It's possible she was actually employed and not just "the wife of" thereby removing her immunity.
AJL308 said:
996Type said:
Breadvan72 said:
996Type said:
If she worked for Intelligence as the article states, would it not raise questions regards her capabilities in the field if she didn’t even know which side of the road to be on in the country she was posted?
What an odd thing to say. Any human working in any field can make a stupid mistake.Also, whether Sacoolas is any good at whatever her job is has zero relevance to the incident and its aftermath.
PS: You know, I take it, that the word "Intelligence" in a military context is not a reference to how smart a person is.
Edited by Breadvan72 on Thursday 4th February 08:48
There would be extensive aptitude tests to progress and get to such postings. A posting to the U.K. would require a briefing regards local customs etc among many other things. If she is in such a role, ability to process this information for her safety and those around her would be part of the fabric of what she does.
Yes, I understand the meaning of the word intelligence in the context of the article thank and that was entirely my point.
If she was ignorant to such a fundamental fact (which side of the road to be on), it shows at least part of that brief (regards her job and her subsequent presence / safety here in the U.K. as a representative of the U.S.) has been ignored, forgotten or disregarded.
A stupid mistake is one thing, but she wasn’t a tourist straight off a plane driving the wrong way around the M25, again as the article states.
Especially as the consequence of this one stupid mistake (which would have been covered during the posting brief to prevent this very type of incident) has (a) killed someone and (b) raised the profile of her presence here. If that wouldn’t raise questions of capability regards aptitude for the particular role she allegedly held, I’m not sure what would.
In the forces it's just another specialisation along with all the others. Same uniform, same career career/rank structure etc.
If anything is one of the more boring roles. Would you rather...
1. Fly a jet
2. Fire a missile
3. Listen to radio traffic between Russia and a "trawler" that's been shadowing your ship.
It's just a job!
RonaldMcDonaldAteMyCat said:
I just automatically presumed she was over here on behalf of Bill Gates to oversee the injection of 5G chips into the Covid vaccines. The poor kid was one of the first test pilots for the vaccine and when he threatened to go to the press they killed him and blamed it on a road accident. At the time of the 'accident' Sacoolas was actually already back in the States preparing the final batch of Covid infected pangolins ready to send to Wuhan with Fauci and his entourage. She lived in the White House which is why she was already there when Dunn's family were invited to meet her. It's all there on the internet, you can check for yourself.
One of the more sensible posts of recent pages 
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