Harry and Meghan

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Evanivitch

20,441 posts

124 months

Friday 15th December 2023
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popeyewhite said:
I used to detest Piers Morgan, but like the Farage he has a sort of resiliency that's hard to ignore. Certainly a breed apart. Is this kind of man simply a modern professional or are both unprincipled and arrogant? Or are plenty of modern professionals just built that way... .
A bit like Putin, al-Assad and Khamenei then...

sugerbear

4,112 posts

160 months

Friday 15th December 2023
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Escort3500 said:
Morgan said he's "never hacked a phone or told anyone else to hack a phone".

What are the chances he knew very well what was going on during his editorship, however…
The judge has said in his summary that Morgan was aware. He can deny it all he wants.

Countdown

40,181 posts

198 months

Friday 15th December 2023
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sugerbear said:
Escort3500 said:
Morgan said he's "never hacked a phone or told anyone else to hack a phone".

What are the chances he knew very well what was going on during his editorship, however…
The judge has said in his summary that Morgan was aware. He can deny it all he wants.
Didn't Clarkson state many many years ago that Morgan had shown him how easy it was?

tangerine_sedge

4,859 posts

220 months

Friday 15th December 2023
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sugerbear said:
Escort3500 said:
Morgan said he's "never hacked a phone or told anyone else to hack a phone".

What are the chances he knew very well what was going on during his editorship, however…
The judge has said in his summary that Morgan was aware. He can deny it all he wants.
Morgan is no fool, if a reporter came to him with a story he would want to know what/who the source was. The quote above is carefully structured to miss out the fact that he likely knew and supported illegal access. The "don't ask, don't tell" defence is no defence at all.

p1stonhead

25,751 posts

169 months

Friday 15th December 2023
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Have a look at the Daily Mail website this evening. They usually have about 50 H&M stories.

How much coverage of today? A tiny tiny little box about ten scrolls down on their site. Utter scum.

S600BSB

5,128 posts

108 months

Friday 15th December 2023
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sugerbear said:
Escort3500 said:
Morgan said he's "never hacked a phone or told anyone else to hack a phone".

What are the chances he knew very well what was going on during his editorship, however…
The judge has said in his summary that Morgan was aware. He can deny it all he wants.
He is a liar. Simple.

Hill92

4,267 posts

192 months

Friday 15th December 2023
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Countdown said:
sugerbear said:
Escort3500 said:
Morgan said he's "never hacked a phone or told anyone else to hack a phone".

What are the chances he knew very well what was going on during his editorship, however…
The judge has said in his summary that Morgan was aware. He can deny it all he wants.
Didn't Clarkson state many many years ago that Morgan had shown him how easy it was?
You may be thinking of Jeremy Paxman? He gave evidence to the Leveson inquiry that Morgan explained to him how to hack a mobile phone voicemail at a business lunch in 2002.



Clarkson wasn't friendly with Morgan but was friends with Rebekah Brooks and defended her when she was charged then cleared of phone hacking so unlikely it was him.




CharlesdeGaulle

26,521 posts

182 months

Friday 15th December 2023
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S600BSB said:
He is a liar. Simple.
I disagree with much of what you post, but you've nailed it here. He's a contemptible piece of slime.

eliot

11,496 posts

256 months

Friday 15th December 2023
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I think "phone hacking" is a bit of an overplay really. It's more like, the code for your front door was left at the default and nobody told you that it should be changed.
I'm particularly surprised the spooks didn't give the royals/politicians the heads up - unless of course they were using the same tactics.

Pitre

4,649 posts

236 months

Friday 15th December 2023
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Makes you realise the 'possible' reason that Piers Morgan berates H&M at every possible opportunity and appears to truly hate them.

popeyewhite

20,149 posts

122 months

Friday 15th December 2023
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p1stonhead said:
Have a look at the Daily Mail website this evening. They usually have about 50 H&M stories.

How much coverage of today? A tiny tiny little box about ten scrolls down on their site. Utter scum.
Utter scum yet you obviously visit the DM site regularly. Hmm

Pitre

4,649 posts

236 months

Friday 15th December 2023
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sugerbear said:
Escort3500 said:
Morgan said he's "never hacked a phone or told anyone else to hack a phone".

What are the chances he knew very well what was going on during his editorship, however…
The judge has said in his summary that Morgan was aware. He can deny it all he wants.
"Never hacked a phone" and "not telling anyone else to hack a phone" do not include not being aware that others hack phones...

Slimy git.

popeyewhite

20,149 posts

122 months

Friday 15th December 2023
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Evanivitch said:
A bit like Putin, al-Assad and Khamenei then...
Morgan's not quite at dictator level biggrin

Randy Winkman

16,400 posts

191 months

Friday 15th December 2023
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eliot said:
I think "phone hacking" is a bit of an overplay really. It's more like, the code for your front door was left at the default and nobody told you that it should be changed.
I'm particularly surprised the spooks didn't give the royals/politicians the heads up - unless of course they were using the same tactics.
I'd say that "phone hacking" only overstates it from the point of view of the technical expertise needed. Not from the point of view of the deliberacy or dishonesty of it. Unless I'm mistaken, it couldn't be done accidentally and for me that's the only issue that matters. But I guess you've said that anyway - if someone's front door isnt locked it doesnt mean that it's any less dishonest of you to walk in.

p1stonhead

25,751 posts

169 months

Friday 15th December 2023
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popeyewhite said:
p1stonhead said:
Have a look at the Daily Mail website this evening. They usually have about 50 H&M stories.

How much coverage of today? A tiny tiny little box about ten scrolls down on their site. Utter scum.
Utter scum yet you obviously visit the DM site regularly. Hmm
Says who?

I went to look because someone on twitter mentioned it.

No one other than rage desperate weirdos look at the Daily Mail

popeyewhite

20,149 posts

122 months

Friday 15th December 2023
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p1stonhead said:
popeyewhite said:
p1stonhead said:
Have a look at the Daily Mail website this evening. They usually have about 50 H&M stories.

How much coverage of today? A tiny tiny little box about ten scrolls down on their site. Utter scum.
Utter scum yet you obviously visit the DM site regularly. Hmm
Says who?

I went to look because someone on twitter mentioned it.

No one other than rage desperate weirdos look at the Daily Mail
If you say so.

Murph7355

37,848 posts

258 months

Friday 15th December 2023
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Pitre said:
"Never hacked a phone" and "not telling anyone else to hack a phone" do not include not being aware that others hack phones...

Slimy git.
Agreed on the last bit.

But poor questioning really.

TTmonkey

20,911 posts

249 months

Friday 15th December 2023
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The answer doesn’t match the accusation. He’s using words to deny something we know he knew about.

When this happened 20years or so ago with people leaving the default passcode, if it was described to me I would not have regarded it as hacking. It was more akin to walking into a house where the door is open.

These days it’s called hacking. Then, it was called taking advantage of stupid asses.

No sympathy for the victim and the guy in charge is a slime ball.
That’s HRH ginge and the swamp rat Morgan by the way.

98elise

26,887 posts

163 months

Friday 15th December 2023
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sugerbear said:
Escort3500 said:
Morgan said he's "never hacked a phone or told anyone else to hack a phone".

What are the chances he knew very well what was going on during his editorship, however…
The judge has said in his summary that Morgan was aware. He can deny it all he wants.
I suspect his statement is carefully worded, ie he didn't actually do the hacking or directly instruct the person that did.



Blue62

8,967 posts

154 months

Friday 15th December 2023
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Murph7355 said:
Agreed on the last bit.

But poor questioning really.
I thought Morgan made a statement, don’t get your poor questioning remark but think I’m probably on a different wavelength. Whatever, Mirror Group were paying out big money to the people hacking celebs, it’s inconceivable that the Editors weren’t aware. Stephen Fry had it right.