Taking the knee
Discussion
ddom said:
bhstewie said:
Fine by me if that's what you think.
I'm not the one scrambling around looking for anything I can think of to avoid calling out those "fans" behaviour.
So called fans who claim to support their national team and they show it by booing their own players for protesting against racism and singing "no surrender" and "ten german bombers".
That really shouldn't be a difficult thing to criticise.
You're associating a chant about Boris, as somehow proof that football is deeply racist. Have we reached full woke?I'm not the one scrambling around looking for anything I can think of to avoid calling out those "fans" behaviour.
So called fans who claim to support their national team and they show it by booing their own players for protesting against racism and singing "no surrender" and "ten german bombers".
That really shouldn't be a difficult thing to criticise.
What's it got to do with Boris and where have I said that football is deeply racist?
Oh and when all else fails something about woke.
Stop making stuff up.
bhstewie said:
Eh?
What's it got to do with Boris and where have I said that football is deeply racist?
Oh and when all else fails something about woke.
Stop making stuff up.
Perhaps you and the other chap should just state what exactly I am supposed to be apologizing for?What's it got to do with Boris and where have I said that football is deeply racist?
Oh and when all else fails something about woke.
Stop making stuff up.
Can you speak plainly or, is this another nuanced conversation??
ddom said:
bhstewie said:
Fine by me if that's what you think.
I'm not the one scrambling around looking for anything I can think of to avoid calling out those "fans" behaviour.
So called fans who claim to support their national team and they show it by booing their own players for protesting against racism and singing "no surrender" and "ten german bombers".
That really shouldn't be a difficult thing to criticise.
You're associating a chant about Boris, as somehow proof that football is deeply racist. Have we reached full woke?I'm not the one scrambling around looking for anything I can think of to avoid calling out those "fans" behaviour.
So called fans who claim to support their national team and they show it by booing their own players for protesting against racism and singing "no surrender" and "ten german bombers".
That really shouldn't be a difficult thing to criticise.
ddom said:
bhstewie said:
Eh?
What's it got to do with Boris and where have I said that football is deeply racist?
Oh and when all else fails something about woke.
Stop making stuff up.
Perhaps you and the other chap should just state what exactly I am supposed to be apologizing for?What's it got to do with Boris and where have I said that football is deeply racist?
Oh and when all else fails something about woke.
Stop making stuff up.
Can you speak plainly or, is this another nuanced conversation??
Why do you constantly make stuff up?
ddom said:
Perhaps you and the other chap should just state what exactly I am supposed to be apologizing for?
Can you speak plainly or, is this another nuanced conversation??
I don't think I've asked you to apologise for anything have I?Can you speak plainly or, is this another nuanced conversation??
Chants about Boris, apologies, woke, you're literally just throwing out random words
chrispmartha said:
Who’s asked you to apologise?
Why do you constantly make stuff up?
Whilst it fills me dread engaging you....Why do you constantly make stuff up?
he said:
That really shouldn't be a difficult thing to criticise.
So. I'll as you again. What exactly should I be critical of, apologizing for, offended about?I am sure you have a list ready
ddom said:
chrispmartha said:
Who’s asked you to apologise?
Why do you constantly make stuff up?
Whilst it fills me dread engaging you....Why do you constantly make stuff up?
he said:
That really shouldn't be a difficult thing to criticise.
So. I'll as you again. What exactly should I be critical of, apologizing for, offended about?I am sure you have a list ready
So this Boris thing you’ve made up, what you on about?
chrispmartha said:
I’ve not asked you to criticise anyone, you’ve totally made up the apologising thing (you do realise those are two different things) again why do you constantly make things up.
So this Boris thing you’ve made up, what you on about?
Why did you post the clip about 'fans'So this Boris thing you’ve made up, what you on about?
Or have you forgotten?
ddom said:
chrispmartha said:
I’ve not asked you to criticise anyone, you’ve totally made up the apologising thing (you do realise those are two different things) again why do you constantly make things up.
So this Boris thing you’ve made up, what you on about?
Why did you post the clip about 'fans'So this Boris thing you’ve made up, what you on about?
Or have you forgotten?
This Boris thing, what you on about?
bhstewie said:
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And why should Rashford run "a campaign shaming absent black fathers" anyway?
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That's a brilliant idea. It is one of the main reasons, if not the main reason, endless young blacks stab each other, and do other crimes etc. Strong male role models is what has been shown to give children a good start in life, and statistically such role models are missing in more black families. Far less crime is done by races that believe in the nuclear family.And why should Rashford run "a campaign shaming absent black fathers" anyway?
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On the other hand simply carry on blaming racism and empty gestures like taking the knee if you want nothing to change. Personally I'd prefer the current situation to change for the better.
chrispmartha said:
Because those fans are probably (yes Im making an assumption here but id put money on it) will be the ones saying they want to keep politics out of football, and even if im wrong I didn’t ask you anything about it let alone ask you to apologise for them, so you again made something up.
This Boris thing, what you on about?
Yes, another baseless assumption, and it was bhstewie who made the comment about criticizing others. This Boris thing, what you on about?
HTH
MikeStroud said:
That's a brilliant idea. It is one of the main reasons, if not the main reason, endless young blacks stab each other, and do other crimes etc. Strong male role models is what has been shown to give children a good start in life, and statistically such role models are missing in more black families. Far less crime is done by races that believe in the nuclear family.
On the other hand simply carry on blaming racism and empty gestures like taking the knee if you want nothing to change. Personally I'd prefer the current situation to change for the better.
How will a campaign about absent fathers stop people sending him and other black players racist abuse?On the other hand simply carry on blaming racism and empty gestures like taking the knee if you want nothing to change. Personally I'd prefer the current situation to change for the better.
ddom said:
chrispmartha said:
Because those fans are probably (yes Im making an assumption here but id put money on it) will be the ones saying they want to keep politics out of football, and even if im wrong I didn’t ask you anything about it let alone ask you to apologise for them, so you again made something up.
This Boris thing, what you on about?
Yes, another baseless assumption, and it was bhstewie who made the comment about criticizing others. This Boris thing, what you on about?
HTH
So, this Boris thing?
ddom said:
Yes, another baseless assumption, and it was bhstewie who made the comment about criticizing others.
HTH
I made the comment because when I criticised the fans singing "the old traditional songs" you could have said "yes they're disgusting there's no place for it" or you could have gone off on one about drill and rap music and black artists which has absolutely nothing to do with anything.HTH
I didn't ask you to apologise.
Still a bit confused what the Boris thing is all about though to be fair I can see why you'd rather ignore it and pretend you hadn't said it
chrispmartha said:
It’s not baseless, but anyway, if it was Stewie that asked you why mention me? And why make up the apologising thing, and for you to say ‘another baseless assumption’ is utterly laughable when you never back up anything you say/accuse people of saying things.
So, this Boris thing?
You must lead a sad life, you been chipping away all day on this thread. So, this Boris thing?
bhstewie said:
ddom said:
Yes, another baseless assumption, and it was bhstewie who made the comment about criticizing others.
HTH
I made the comment because when I criticised the fans singing "the old traditional songs" you could have said "yes they're disgusting there's no place for it" or you could have gone off on one about drill and rap music and black artists which has absolutely nothing to do with anything.HTH
I didn't ask you to apologise.
Still a bit confused what the Boris thing is all about though to be fair I can see why you'd rather ignore it and pretend you hadn't said it
bhstewie said:
I made the comment because when I criticised the fans singing "the old traditional songs" you could have said "yes they're disgusting there's no place for it" or you could have gone off on one about drill and rap music and black artists which has absolutely nothing to do with anything.
I didn't ask you to apologise.
Still a bit confused what the Boris thing is all about though to be fair I can see why you'd rather ignore it and pretend you hadn't said it
It was the other thread warrior who made an issue out of handful of fans chanting some BS about Boris, it was faintly amusing. I didn't ask you to apologise.
Still a bit confused what the Boris thing is all about though to be fair I can see why you'd rather ignore it and pretend you hadn't said it
Third time lucky. Why should I criticize, and perhaps you could be blunt about the lyrics I should be critical of? Drill/rap is just another example of double standards, as well you know.
ddom said:
bhstewie said:
I made the comment because when I criticised the fans singing "the old traditional songs" you could have said "yes they're disgusting there's no place for it" or you could have gone off on one about drill and rap music and black artists which has absolutely nothing to do with anything.
I didn't ask you to apologise.
Still a bit confused what the Boris thing is all about though to be fair I can see why you'd rather ignore it and pretend you hadn't said it
It was the other thread warrior who made an issue out of handful of fans chanting some BS about Boris, it was faintly amusing. I didn't ask you to apologise.
Still a bit confused what the Boris thing is all about though to be fair I can see why you'd rather ignore it and pretend you hadn't said it
Third time lucky. Why should I criticize, and perhaps you could be blunt about the lyrics I should be critical of? Drill/rap is just another example of double standards, as well you know.
‘Thread warrior’ how old how you?
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