Rishi Sunak - Prime Minister

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Castrol for a knave

4,868 posts

93 months

Thursday 23rd May
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£500m wasted in Rwanda.

Repeatedly asked why do all that then call an election before the flights start.

His PR really is st. Stood in a warehouse, looking like Stuart Little.

Maxdecel

1,322 posts

35 months

Thursday 23rd May
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Well at least he wasn't asking the homeless if they'd like to work in the city.
Here's the latest footy gaff https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politics-69053165
Bet he's a keen West Ham City supporter.

Don Roque

18,035 posts

161 months

Thursday 23rd May
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Blue62 said:
Apparently he’s asked voters in Wales if they’re looking forward to the Football, before it was pointed out that Wales haven’t qualified!
Good to see he still has a sense of humour in these dark times. Although as usual, the Welsh will be just be cheering for England at every major competition, as usual laugh

p1stonhead

25,851 posts

169 months

Thursday 23rd May
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Castrol for a knave said:
£500m wasted in Rwanda.

Repeatedly asked why do all that then call an election before the flights start.

His PR really is st. Stood in a warehouse, looking like Stuart Little.
This is also gold

https://x.com/sturdyalex/status/179356046425507856...

The point he is trying to make is reasonable, but he just can’t do anything properly can he

Sway

26,511 posts

196 months

Thursday 23rd May
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Maxdecel said:
Well at least he wasn't asking the homeless if they'd like to work in the city.
Here's the latest footy gaff https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politics-69053165
Bet he's a keen West Ham City supporter.
It's daft, but it's also daft that for some reason voters seem to think a love of football is necessary in a PM. Hence the gaffes.

MiniMan64

17,104 posts

192 months

Thursday 23rd May
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S600BSB said:
anonymoususer said:
Smoking ban bill to be dumped due to time restraints re election
Really disappointed if correct.
Frustrating but given that Labour strong supported it I suspect it will come back around pretty quick…

borcy

3,348 posts

58 months

Thursday 23rd May
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p1stonhead said:
This is also gold

https://x.com/sturdyalex/status/179356046425507856...

The point he is trying to make is reasonable, but he just can’t do anything properly can he
Why do they think people care about what their parents did?

Blue62

9,028 posts

154 months

Thursday 23rd May
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Sway said:
It's daft, but it's also daft that for some reason voters seem to think a love of football is necessary in a PM. Hence the gaffes.
I think what’s daft is that he strays into areas of everyday life that he knows nothing about, in a tragic attempt to look and sound normal. You’d think he’d have learned to stay away from gaffe central by now. A decent and intelligent man completely out of sorts, he’s not a politician, let alone PM.

Talksteer

4,984 posts

235 months

Thursday 23rd May
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119 said:
You could argue it could be more than twice that as it will be the kids parents and family that will be votings

Children can’t.
Which is actually a massive structural issue with our democracy. It's why we have the triple lock and you pay to go to uni. It's why childcare is ruinously expensive and child sit stressful one chance to pass exams but everything that requires a test as an adult you get to choose when you take the test and you can have as many tries at it as you want.

If kids are part of the franchise politicians will have to find out what they want, the solutions they generate will likely improve society for the rest of us.

All the arguments against children voting applies to some class of adult who do get the vote.

Personally I'd give a vote to everyone with parents of young children acting as proxies until they reach key stage 2. Since all children would get to vote a number of times while at school it's likely to be a habit that they never lose.


PlywoodPascal

4,484 posts

23 months

Thursday 23rd May
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lol

Tory councillors posed as biscuit factory workers to ask sunak planted questions.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/...


Sway

26,511 posts

196 months

Thursday 23rd May
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Blue62 said:
Sway said:
It's daft, but it's also daft that for some reason voters seem to think a love of football is necessary in a PM. Hence the gaffes.
I think what’s daft is that he strays into areas of everyday life that he knows nothing about, in a tragic attempt to look and sound normal. You’d think he’d have learned to stay away from gaffe central by now. A decent and intelligent man completely out of sorts, he’s not a politician, let alone PM.
I agree - unfortunately there's too much precedent of PMs (especially male) having to show love for the 'beautiful game' - so they kinda have to.

He's perhaps the worst at playing the game, seemingly unable to put fuel in a car, or pay contactless, or indeed have any clue of where he is and if they're in the euros.

And yeah, I've said since he first appeared on the scene, he's a bland grey consultant without an ounce of leadership or charisma.

Don Roque

18,035 posts

161 months

Thursday 23rd May
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Sway said:
I agree - unfortunately there's too much precedent of PMs (especially male) having to show love for the 'beautiful game' - so they kinda have to.
It always comes off as a cynical appeal to appeal to lower class voters. Politicians should be above some common concerns and nonsense but they always try to appeal to the 'man on the failing high street' come election time.

anonymoususer

6,113 posts

50 months

Thursday 23rd May
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Blue62 said:
Sway said:
It's daft, but it's also daft that for some reason voters seem to think a love of football is necessary in a PM. Hence the gaffes.
I think what’s daft is that he strays into areas of everyday life that he knows nothing about, in a tragic attempt to look and sound normal. You’d think he’d have learned to stay away from gaffe central by now. A decent and intelligent man completely out of sorts, he’s not a politician, let alone PM.
Once again I find myself agreeing totally with Blue62's post.
I genuinely can't remember if I posted or stopped and deleted a parody post about Rishi being the centre of a campaign. But the issue is that its natural that a party leader let alone PM will be heavily scrutinised.
You have to have others who can receive attention. Theresa May had a disastrous campaign in 2007. There were U turns gaffes but there was also way way too much focus on her personally and it was sad to see.
They need to get others into the spotlight.
His launch in the rain was a disaster and has created an image that is hard to shake off
Having planted party members pretending to be workers is stupid and easily found out in this age.
If you look at the Warehouse thing it's ste. The whole idea is ste. Having a bunch of people stood round you pretending to be interested, let alone hanging on your every word is a disaster in waiting. It's fake as fake can be
Having planted folk ask convenient questions is stupid
I didn't want to make a certain comparison with another person this early on but Rishi's launch and first day has been carp

Sway

26,511 posts

196 months

Thursday 23rd May
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anonymoususer said:
Blue62 said:
Sway said:
It's daft, but it's also daft that for some reason voters seem to think a love of football is necessary in a PM. Hence the gaffes.
I think what’s daft is that he strays into areas of everyday life that he knows nothing about, in a tragic attempt to look and sound normal. You’d think he’d have learned to stay away from gaffe central by now. A decent and intelligent man completely out of sorts, he’s not a politician, let alone PM.
Once again I find myself agreeing totally with Blue62's post.
I genuinely can't remember if I posted or stopped and deleted a parody post about Rishi being the centre of a campaign. But the issue is that its natural that a party leader let alone PM will be heavily scrutinised.
You have to have others who can receive attention. Theresa May had a disastrous campaign in 2007. There were U turns gaffes but there was also way way too much focus on her personally and it was sad to see.
They need to get others into the spotlight.
His launch in the rain was a disaster and has created an image that is hard to shake off
Having planted party members pretending to be workers is stupid and easily found out in this age.
If you look at the Warehouse thing it's ste. The whole idea is ste. Having a bunch of people stood round you pretending to be interested, let alone hanging on your every word is a disaster in waiting. It's fake as fake can be
Having planted folk ask convenient questions is stupid
I didn't want to make a certain comparison with another person this early on but Rishi's launch and first day has been carp
Absolutely agree.

I was at Carnival when Osborne rolled in to announce the pension lump sum withdrawal thingy, with QM2 as the backdrop from the office roof terrace.

Then there was an horrifically cringe worthy session like this one with staff, didn't need stooges as there were planted questions amongst certain staff.

blueg33

36,527 posts

226 months

Thursday 23rd May
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I think I might invite him to my factory.

It would be amusing to give him a mortar gun and get him doing some pointing.

Ear defenders are compulsory PPE so on the plus side no one would hear his gaffes.

Sway

26,511 posts

196 months

Thursday 23rd May
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Don Roque said:
Sway said:
I agree - unfortunately there's too much precedent of PMs (especially male) having to show love for the 'beautiful game' - so they kinda have to.
It always comes off as a cynical appeal to appeal to lower class voters. Politicians should be above some common concerns and nonsense but they always try to appeal to the 'man on the failing high street' come election time.
Yep - because that's what does win votes!

Being the 'bloke down the pub' certainly helped Farage and Johnson.

Unless you're an 'elder statesman', then any middle aged male politician is simply expected to be a lover of football.

Maxdecel

1,322 posts

35 months

Thursday 23rd May
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Launch in the rain ? Went swimmingly.

S600BSB

5,405 posts

108 months

Thursday 23rd May
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Another 5 Tory MPs jumping ship. That’s 72 standing down now - another 4 needed for a new record!

Mr Penguin

1,773 posts

41 months

Thursday 23rd May
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S600BSB said:
Another 5 Tory MPs jumping ship. That’s 72 standing down now - another 4 needed for a new record!
Which election was the record set? 97 or 2010?

otolith

56,858 posts

206 months

Thursday 23rd May
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S600BSB said:
Another 5 Tory MPs jumping ship. That’s 72 standing down now - another 4 needed for a new record!
Are they jumping, or scuttling down the ropes in classic rodent style? Ironic that the one who most resembles Roland is going down with the ship.