Rishi Sunak - Prime Minister

[Mr Penguin]

119 said:

Thats the thing though, there hasn't been a policy presented, just a sound bite.

There is a policy

Option for military service for one year
Option for civic service for 25 days over one year
Pilot scheme starting in September 2025
Royal commission to work out the details

If they spent more than ten minutes thinking about the details, made it wider (eg a national volunteering service, link it to jury duty, exempt if you do certain jobs), rolled the pitch, and came up with a new name then it would be better received.

As it is, they present it like a small policy but people rightly see it as a big deal.

[119]

p1stonhead said:

anonymoususer said:

My westminster sources tell me that a new announcement to bring back pounds. shillings and pence is on the cards and could be announced as early as 3pm. This is dependent on other Tory MP's not getting wind of it first

Literally impossible to tell if you’re joking.

Seriously?

[p1stonhead]

119 said:

p1stonhead said:

anonymoususer said:

My westminster sources tell me that a new announcement to bring back pounds. shillings and pence is on the cards and could be announced as early as 3pm. This is dependent on other Tory MP's not getting wind of it first

Literally impossible to tell if you’re joking.

Seriously?

No.

It’s less mental than conscription

[eharding]

p1stonhead said:

119 said:

p1stonhead said:

anonymoususer said:

My westminster sources tell me that a new announcement to bring back pounds. shillings and pence is on the cards and could be announced as early as 3pm. This is dependent on other Tory MP's not getting wind of it first

Literally impossible to tell if you’re joking.

Seriously?

No.

It’s less mental than conscription

Mr User is clearly hearing a few garbled comments coming out of No.10 and getting the wrong end of the stick regarding currency denominations - the original unguarded and off-the-record quote from a Tory press officer earlier this morning was that "Sunak will be going out and making a complete Tuppeny Bit of himself again this afternoon".

[ChocolateFrog]

Sway said:

It's a daft idea, but my 17yo lad would actually probably quite like a year in the Army, mainly as he's really gotten into sport and the PT element would really appeal along with the team working aspects. It'd save us a st load in food bill too!

So I guess it'd be quite cool if there were an option like that available, but not via the sort of policy being presented.

Anyone who wants to do it can do it for a couple of years already.

On the whole it's a great job. I spent almost a third of my time in the Army skiing.

National service that you can say no to, that's hilarious. I wonder how many minutes they spent ironing out the kinks in that plan.

[bitchstewie]

Mr Penguin said:

There is a policy

Option for military service for one year
Option for civic service for 25 days over one year
Pilot scheme starting in September 2025
Royal commission to work out the details

If they spent more than ten minutes thinking about the details, made it wider (eg a national volunteering service, link it to jury duty, exempt if you do certain jobs), rolled the pitch, and came up with a new name then it would be better received.

As it is, they present it like a small policy but people rightly see it as a big deal.

You're missing the word "mandatory".

Take away that element and I think people would be more supportive of the idea.

[anonymoususer]

Another announcement due soon that may tie in with the National Service/ mandatory voluntary stuff.

Rishi feels that squads of migrant watchers can be set up to keep a check on all the available dinghy landing sites around the country ie just about everywhere. Details are sketchy but I think a chain of command will be set up ranging from watchers to record keepers and most importantly managers.
I think the idea is to dissuade the migrants from landing the boats,

[frisbee]

anonymoususer said:

Another announcement due soon that may tie in with the National Service/ mandatory voluntary stuff.

Rishi feels that squads of migrant watchers can be set up to keep a check on all the available dinghy landing sites around the country ie just about everywhere. Details are sketchy but I think a chain of command will be set up ranging from watchers to record keepers and most importantly managers.
I think the idea is to dissuade the migrants from landing the boats,

If we equipped the migrant watchers with large frying pans and stocks of snails and garlic we could confuse their navigation systems.

[bitchstewie]

anonymoususer said:

Another announcement due soon that may tie in with the National Service/ mandatory voluntary stuff.

Rishi feels that squads of migrant watchers can be set up to keep a check on all the available dinghy landing sites around the country ie just about everywhere. Details are sketchy but I think a chain of command will be set up ranging from watchers to record keepers and most importantly managers.
I think the idea is to dissuade the migrants from landing the boats,

To be fair if you go look on the Rwanda thread I'm not sure that's quite the satire you think it is

Some of the Twitter feeds people use are quite remarkable.

[Mr Penguin]

bhstewie said:

You're missing the word "mandatory".

Take away that element and I think people would be more supportive of the idea.

Take away that element and it's difficult to get enough people to do it. Perhaps some tax cuts or removal of benefits might work but more people need to take part in 'society' as a whole, rather than leaving it to others to do. The government can/should certainly make it easier to find opportunities to do that and make it easier to take them but working for others should be the norm, not the exception.

We have mandatory jury duty, if that is not a problem then I don't see why having to serve society in other ways should be a problem. Perhaps the 25 days a year should be done on a draft basis.

[bitchstewie]

When will you be volunteering for your mandatory year doing what the Conservatives tell you to do?

[768]

Some of us have already done the things suggested.

[Sway]

ChocolateFrog said:

Sway said:

It's a daft idea, but my 17yo lad would actually probably quite like a year in the Army, mainly as he's really gotten into sport and the PT element would really appeal along with the team working aspects. It'd save us a st load in food bill too!

So I guess it'd be quite cool if there were an option like that available, but not via the sort of policy being presented.

Anyone who wants to do it can do it for a couple of years already.

On the whole it's a great job. I spent almost a third of my time in the Army skiing.

National service that you can say no to, that's hilarious. I wonder how many minutes they spent ironing out the kinks in that plan.

Yeah, although for some reason in my head as a parent, signing up 'proper' for only 2 years seems a bit daft.

He's spent this year doing an engineering foundation at college. Probably 25% of his time.

Can't help but think even an unpaid, residential, Army 'apprenticeship college' which perhaps tailors things to 25% learning, 25% improving (PT, leadership skills, etc.) and 50% 'doing' would have been something we'd have looked at collectively as a really rather good idea.

Even better if there's some form of recognised 'outcome' for when he left and entered the wider working world.

Could do it that those that attended, if then moving onto 'proper' army employment, got an enhanced starting salary or something as an incentive.

But conscious I'm going way off topic from what's actually been presented though!

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bhstewie said:

When will you be volunteering for your mandatory year doing what the Conservatives tell you to do?

Do you really not bother to read anything?

Or is it that you perhaps don't understand the bigger words?


Let me help...


As it stands, they will be able to apply to join the military for twelve months.

OR

Work in various other roles for 25 days over the course of a year.

[borcy]

119 said:

bhstewie said:

When will you be volunteering for your mandatory year doing what the Conservatives tell you to do?

Do you really not bother to read anything?

Or is it that you perhaps don't understand the bigger words?


Let me help...


As it stands, they will be able to apply to join the military for twelve months.

OR

Work in various other roles for 25 days over the course of a year.

I think it's being suggested what if you don't fancy either option?

[bitchstewie]

119 said:

Do you really not bother to read anything?

Or is it that you perhaps don't understand the bigger words?


Let me help...


As it stands, they will be able to apply to join the military for twelve months.

OR

Work in various other roles for 25 days over the course of a year.

Being mandated to have to choose which one you have to do is still mandatory.

What if you don't want to do any of them?

[p1stonhead]

119 said:

bhstewie said:

When will you be volunteering for your mandatory year doing what the Conservatives tell you to do?

Do you really not bother to read anything?

Or is it that you perhaps don't understand the bigger words?


Let me help...


As it stands, they will be able to apply to join the military for twelve months.

OR

Work in various other roles for 25 days over the course of a year.

Yes. But you HAVE to pick one of them.

In fairness there is no point in discussing this as they aren’t going to be in power to do it.

[119]

p1stonhead said:

119 said:

bhstewie said:

When will you be volunteering for your mandatory year doing what the Conservatives tell you to do?

Do you really not bother to read anything?

Or is it that you perhaps don't understand the bigger words?


Let me help...


As it stands, they will be able to apply to join the military for twelve months.

OR

Work in various other roles for 25 days over the course of a year.

Yes. But you HAVE to pick one of them.

In fairness there is no point in discussing this as they aren’t going to be in power to do it.

So?

I HAVE to do things I don’t want to do. Just like everyone else.

Of course it’s never likely to happen but there is no reason why it cant be discussed.

[anonymoususer]

Another snippet just in:

Should the Conservatives be re elected in order to get to net zero households be required to surrender their electric and gas ovens.
Each household will receive vouchers to purchase a microwave and an air fryer.
Not to be outdone Labour will attempt to match the proposal by going after food mixers with any motor over 300watts

Edited by anonymoususer on Sunday 26th May 13:38

[Garvin]

anonymoususer said:

My westminster sources tell me that a new announcement to bring back pounds. shillings and pence is on the cards and could be announced as early as 3pm. This is dependent on other Tory MP's not getting wind of it first

You’re having a laugh. Expecting modern UK to deal with base 12, base 20 and base 240 when they struggle with base 10 is ‘a bridge too far’!

Besides which that would just give us old farts an advantage as we all grew up with it . . . hang on though, could be quite a good idea after all . . .