Boris Johnson- Prime Minister (Vol. 3)
Discussion
gooner1 said:
No postal vote trig?
Can’t be arsed Goon and it won’t make a blind bit of difference anyway.The fragrant Andrea L is a cast iron certainty in my neck of the woods.
I semi-content myself in the knowledge that I know we will get the least stty answer but I won’t have to sully my hands by actively voting for this current abomination of the Tory party which has hitherto enjoyed my unstinting support.
Brooking10 said:
Can’t be arsed Goon and it won’t make a blind bit of difference anyway.
The fragrant Andrea L is a cast iron certainty in my neck of the woods.
I semi-content myself in the knowledge that I know we will get the least stty answer but I won’t have to sully my hands by actively voting for this current abomination of the Tory party which has hitherto enjoyed my unstinting support.
She's also mine. I will however vote and while I understand your reasoning, I can't agree with your solution. I just wouldn't feel I'd have the right to comment on, moan about something I chose notThe fragrant Andrea L is a cast iron certainty in my neck of the woods.
I semi-content myself in the knowledge that I know we will get the least stty answer but I won’t have to sully my hands by actively voting for this current abomination of the Tory party which has hitherto enjoyed my unstinting support.
to take part in.
gooner1 said:
She's also mine. I will however vote and while I understand your reasoning, I can't agree with your solution. I just wouldn't feel I'd have the right to comment on, moan about something I chose not
to take part in.
We are fortunate that we have the right to abstain when the candidates presented are undeserving of our support. I can’t agree that exercising that right diminishes our ability to pass comment.to take part in.
Brooking10 said:
We are fortunate that we have the right to abstain when the candidates presented are undeserving of our support. I can’t agree that exercising that right diminishes our ability to pass comment.
I think you are mistaking my comment on how I'd feel about myself as a judgement on yourself.It really isn't .
W12GT said:
So from most of the coverage I’ve learnt Boris is a liar. Which we all know anyway because almost everyone who knows him or has worked with him confirm the case.
However rather shockingly maybe he isn’t lying about selling off the NHS after all. In fact it has already started to be given away by the government under his predecessor...... so technically he isn’t lying about selling it off in the future because this government have already started to give it away.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/amazon-n...
https://amp.theguardian.com/society/2019/dec/08/nh...
So I’m confused because I thought GDPR should have stopped this happening? Oh and I’m also scared of what lays ahead if he stays in power and Brexits I mean gives away everything that generations have worked for.
I’m also confused as to how the hell this has happened without it being voted for by parliament?
I believe that this is a deal to allow Amazon/Google to offer NHS health advice via its voice search results, so no personal health data has been shared. It's probably a 'good thing' (tm) as an altruistic way of improving public health in general.However rather shockingly maybe he isn’t lying about selling off the NHS after all. In fact it has already started to be given away by the government under his predecessor...... so technically he isn’t lying about selling it off in the future because this government have already started to give it away.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/amazon-n...
https://amp.theguardian.com/society/2019/dec/08/nh...
So I’m confused because I thought GDPR should have stopped this happening? Oh and I’m also scared of what lays ahead if he stays in power and Brexits I mean gives away everything that generations have worked for.
I’m also confused as to how the hell this has happened without it being voted for by parliament?
Edited by W12GT on Monday 9th December 21:55
I fully expect that the stash of NHS personal health data to be sold for a low price to one of Boris' friends soon though...
Brooking10 said:
Well just over half of “we”.....
But yes a majority nonetheless.
The reality is if you ask a multi-faceted question in an absurdly simplistic fashion of people who are largely ill informed then you’ll get a fk up as a result.
And so as a result here we are ..... deciding between a pair of hapless pantomime villains two weeks before Christmas.
Frankly I’m on the verge of past caring and am strangely relieved that I won’t be around to vote on Thursday and will reappear back in the country on Friday morning to find it all concluded and the next phase of lunacy ready to begin.
Hard to belive couldn't make it up !!!, not voting in possibly the most important GE and don't think other people were fit to decide did they want to be part of the EU empire and ruled by unelected bureaucrats or for the uk to be a sovereign state again ... DOH ... But yes a majority nonetheless.
The reality is if you ask a multi-faceted question in an absurdly simplistic fashion of people who are largely ill informed then you’ll get a fk up as a result.
And so as a result here we are ..... deciding between a pair of hapless pantomime villains two weeks before Christmas.
Frankly I’m on the verge of past caring and am strangely relieved that I won’t be around to vote on Thursday and will reappear back in the country on Friday morning to find it all concluded and the next phase of lunacy ready to begin.
Edited by powerstroke on Tuesday 10th December 07:21
powerstroke said:
Hard to belive couldn't make it up !!!, not voting in possibly the most important GE and don't think other people were fit to decide did they want to be part of the EU empire and ruled by unelected bureaucrats or for the uk to be a sovereign state again ... DOH ...
Just to correct the EU hatred:Edited by powerstroke on Tuesday 10th December 07:21
The EU is not an Empire.
The EU do not rule us, unelected or otherwise.
The UK has always been a sovereign state.
This is the incident which was originally reported as an assault by a protestor, based in information the BBC (and others) received from trusted sources within the Conservative party.
https://twitter.com/bbclaurak/status/1204091610843...
https://twitter.com/bbclaurak/status/1204091610843...
Stay in Bed Instead said:
powerstroke said:
Hard to belive couldn't make it up !!!, not voting in possibly the most important GE and don't think other people were fit to decide did they want to be part of the EU empire and ruled by unelected bureaucrats or for the uk to be a sovereign state again ... DOH ...
Just to correct the EU hatred:Edited by powerstroke on Tuesday 10th December 07:21
The EU is not an Empire.
The EU do not rule us, unelected or otherwise.
The UK has always been a sovereign state.
tangerine_sedge said:
I believe that this is a deal to allow Amazon/Google to offer NHS health advice via its voice search results, so no personal health data has been shared. It's probably a 'good thing' (tm) as an altruistic way of improving public health in general.
I fully expect that the stash of NHS personal health data to be sold for a low price to one of Boris' friends soon though...
I read those and read it as Amazon have been given more than Hancock said and they have it for free, the worrying bit is the stuff that has been found out after the freedom of information request showing there is more to the deal than Hancock let on. There are redacted sections in the FOI request as well.I fully expect that the stash of NHS personal health data to be sold for a low price to one of Boris' friends soon though...
US already has its sights on our data. Boris will be desperate to make a deal to show how good he is. I expect us to go under a bus for his vanity. Time will tell.
rscott said:
This is the incident which was originally reported as an assault by a protestor, based in information the BBC (and others) received from trusted sources within the Conservative party.
https://twitter.com/bbclaurak/status/1204091610843...
Yeah, posted yesterday. Nothing doing in that vid. Peston and Kuenssberg did apologise.https://twitter.com/bbclaurak/status/1204091610843...
Tory party shouted assault to the press. Sources again, that mysterious department that lets out a lot of spin and lies.
Ironically sack kuenssberg seems to be trending on twitter. Cummings unhappy with his cunning plan? Got his little ruskin bot chums on the case or bizzarly is it momentum?Hard to tell these days.
Stay in Bed Instead said:
powerstroke said:
Hard to belive couldn't make it up !!!, not voting in possibly the most important GE and don't think other people were fit to decide did they want to be part of the EU empire and ruled by unelected bureaucrats or for the uk to be a sovereign state again ... DOH ...
Just to correct the EU hatred:Edited by powerstroke on Tuesday 10th December 07:21
The EU is not an Empire.
The EU do not rule us, unelected or otherwise.
The UK has always been a sovereign state.
Zirconia said:
rscott said:
This is the incident which was originally reported as an assault by a protestor, based in information the BBC (and others) received from trusted sources within the Conservative party.
https://twitter.com/bbclaurak/status/1204091610843...
Yeah, posted yesterday. Nothing doing in that vid. Peston and Kuenssberg did apologise.https://twitter.com/bbclaurak/status/1204091610843...
Tory party shouted assault to the press. Sources again, that mysterious department that lets out a lot of spin and lies.
Ironically sack kuenssberg seems to be trending on twitter. Cummings unhappy with his cunning plan? Got his little ruskin bot chums on the case or bizzarly is it momentum?Hard to tell these days.
Bit late to realise that journalists should fact check these sources before believing them..
rscott said:
Zirconia said:
rscott said:
This is the incident which was originally reported as an assault by a protestor, based in information the BBC (and others) received from trusted sources within the Conservative party.
https://twitter.com/bbclaurak/status/1204091610843...
Yeah, posted yesterday. Nothing doing in that vid. Peston and Kuenssberg did apologise.https://twitter.com/bbclaurak/status/1204091610843...
Tory party shouted assault to the press. Sources again, that mysterious department that lets out a lot of spin and lies.
Ironically sack kuenssberg seems to be trending on twitter. Cummings unhappy with his cunning plan? Got his little ruskin bot chums on the case or bizzarly is it momentum?Hard to tell these days.
Bit late to realise that journalists should fact check these sources before believing them.
rscott said:
Nick Robinson raised this during his interview with Robert Buckland on R4 this morning. Made the point that very trusted sources in the Conservative party machine seem to have been deliberately misrepresenting this.
Bit late to realise that journalists should fact check these sources before believing them..
I suppose the problem is when the party machine is lying. Now all things from the party machine must be suspect.Bit late to realise that journalists should fact check these sources before believing them..
Looks like there is a lot of trend on some comments of the lad on the floor. Lots of repeats of the same explanation and apparently claimed as the twitter person own, er, description of what should have happened.
This fella pulls apart the numbers in the twittersphere with regards the not a punch as something it never was. Usual suspects in there pushing the lies.
https://twitter.com/marcowenjones/status/120414956...
Worth a read.
Edit. Thread unroll.
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/120414956908233...
Edited by Zirconia on Tuesday 10th December 08:16
Stay in Bed Instead said:
powerstroke said:
Hard to belive couldn't make it up !!!, not voting in possibly the most important GE and don't think other people were fit to decide did they want to be part of the EU empire and ruled by unelected bureaucrats or for the uk to be a sovereign state again ... DOH ...
Just to correct the EU hatred:Edited by powerstroke on Tuesday 10th December 07:21
The EU is not an Empire.
The EU do not rule us, unelected or otherwise.
The UK has always been a sovereign state.
Comments from Macron, Merkel and the guiding hands of the various EU institutions have made no secret regarding the EU's longer term goals.
bhstewie said:
I don't have a clue what the poor child's situation was which is exactly why I'm not making assumptions or calling the parents decision making into question.
Does seem highly suspicious that this comes out just before an election.Can we have another photo of Corbyn sitting on a train floor too?
turbobloke said:
rscott said:
Zirconia said:
rscott said:
This is the incident which was originally reported as an assault by a protestor, based in information the BBC (and others) received from trusted sources within the Conservative party.
https://twitter.com/bbclaurak/status/1204091610843...
Yeah, posted yesterday. Nothing doing in that vid. Peston and Kuenssberg did apologise.https://twitter.com/bbclaurak/status/1204091610843...
Tory party shouted assault to the press. Sources again, that mysterious department that lets out a lot of spin and lies.
Ironically sack kuenssberg seems to be trending on twitter. Cummings unhappy with his cunning plan? Got his little ruskin bot chums on the case or bizzarly is it momentum?Hard to tell these days.
Bit late to realise that journalists should fact check these sources before believing them.
Hopefully a wake up call for Laura - not a patch on Nick Robinson - Kuenssberg.
ChevyChase77 said:
bhstewie said:
I don't have a clue what the poor child's situation was which is exactly why I'm not making assumptions or calling the parents decision making into question.
Does seem highly suspicious that this comes out just before an election.Can we have another photo of Corbyn sitting on a train floor too?
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