Everyone is so offended.
Discussion
chrispmartha said:
8.4L 154 said:
Breadvan72 said:
Other news: a rape crisis centre has declared its toilets gender neutral. Righty ho.
In other news. The rape crisis center with the gender neutral loos. Presumably had one accessable, one ladies and one gents. Now has one accessable and two open to anyone who needs it. All individual self contained loos.
I expect it will be some rant about trans women in control of the deep state rather than an organisation meeting its legal obligations to provide toilets for everyone and increasing their capacity for their main demographic at the same time.
8.4L 154 said:
Some context for Sefton Council flag flying.
This is the note they put up about why they were flying the flag.
Great they are celebrating international women's day, excepth they never bothered to look to see what the IWD flag looks like. Here it is.
However it seems likely anti trans voices on the council misled them into flying this flag instead.
Seems ok, nothing wrong with that its just the dictionary definition of Woman. EXCEPT its a dog whistle, an innocent sounding phrase with a hidden meaning designed to only be seen/heard by those it targets. Its also a context is everything problem. A banana isn't racist and is just a banana 99.99% of the time, except when its thrown onto the football pitch in front of a black player.
The context behind the flag. The black and white Adult Human Female campaign is the brain child and mini business of Kellie-Jay Keen-Minshull AKA Posie Parker and if there is one demographic she hates more than Muslims its trans people. I could now attach a selection of her tweets but fear they are all too extreme and will result in a ban for me. Suffice to say they include wishing death of trans women, Stating trans men should be sterilised, that gay people suffered head trauma as children. She travelled to the USA on behest of the Heritage Foundation (there is that far right money) to harass a trans women in her place of business, a thoroughly nice person all round, so no, its not just an innocent flag carrying the dictionary definition of women in that context and neither was it a flag celebrating IWD, it was something far more sinister to trans people. Trans people would love to have seen the actual IWD flag flying for a week.
And back in the context of the definition of 'woman' you can refer to the Oxford Transphobic Dictionary which is still valid whether the devil himself uses it.This is the note they put up about why they were flying the flag.
Great they are celebrating international women's day, excepth they never bothered to look to see what the IWD flag looks like. Here it is.
However it seems likely anti trans voices on the council misled them into flying this flag instead.
Seems ok, nothing wrong with that its just the dictionary definition of Woman. EXCEPT its a dog whistle, an innocent sounding phrase with a hidden meaning designed to only be seen/heard by those it targets. Its also a context is everything problem. A banana isn't racist and is just a banana 99.99% of the time, except when its thrown onto the football pitch in front of a black player.
The context behind the flag. The black and white Adult Human Female campaign is the brain child and mini business of Kellie-Jay Keen-Minshull AKA Posie Parker and if there is one demographic she hates more than Muslims its trans people. I could now attach a selection of her tweets but fear they are all too extreme and will result in a ban for me. Suffice to say they include wishing death of trans women, Stating trans men should be sterilised, that gay people suffered head trauma as children. She travelled to the USA on behest of the Heritage Foundation (there is that far right money) to harass a trans women in her place of business, a thoroughly nice person all round, so no, its not just an innocent flag carrying the dictionary definition of women in that context and neither was it a flag celebrating IWD, it was something far more sinister to trans people. Trans people would love to have seen the actual IWD flag flying for a week.
Edited by 8.4L 154 on Monday 2nd March 21:56
Tuna said:
Isn't that the whole point about this thread? Moderates, who can understand both sides of the argument and see an outcome that isn't just black or white don't contribute (or are drowned out).
Bingo.None of the *trannies I know shout about it.
* I use this term not to try and cause offence, quite the opposite.
Transvestite might not do the individual justice.
Transsexual isn't accurate as you cannot change your biological sex, speaking from a medical rather than legal point of view.
Transgender just opens up many cans of worms. If you accept that gender is not inherently linked to biological sex then logically you have to ascribe to gender stereotyping for a start, which we were told up until recently was a bad thing.
There's only really one conclusion and that doesn't solve many of the problems being discussed.
Can't we all just go for pint?
Bacon Is Proof said:
There's only really one conclusion and that doesn't solve many of the problems being discussed.
Can't we all just go for pint?
I disagree, I think it solves all of the problems being discussedCan't we all just go for pint?
Maybe we should have an international 'We don't give a s
t how you want to live your life' dayThe Wookie said:
I disagree, I think it solves all of the problems being discussed
Maybe we should have an international 'We don't give a st how you want to live your life' day
You’d like to think that a simple idea like the above would defuse things.Maybe we should have an international 'We don't give a s
t how you want to live your life' dayBut no, this internecine war, so is destined to last 30 years, becoming more and more narrow, remote and bitter.
WinstonWolf said:
A mystery why he was allowed to compete as a woman. In general sporting events are organised by sex, not gender. Event results will be viewed as worthless amongst competitors.The Wookie said:
Bacon Is Proof said:
There's only really one conclusion and that doesn't solve many of the problems being discussed.
Can't we all just go for pint?
I disagree, I think it solves all of the problems being discussedCan't we all just go for pint?
Maybe we should have an international 'We don't give a s
t how you want to live your life' day...going for the pint is definitely the safer option.
otolith said:
It's quite true, wherever you stand on this debate the use of that dictionary definition is a dog whistle.
Same trick, more explicitly, going on here
Dictionaries are descriptive, not prescriptive.
Love the description of the moon underneath the marriage heading in your link, pure tin-foil hattery...Same trick, more explicitly, going on here
Dictionaries are descriptive, not prescriptive.
WinstonWolf said:
How is she going to obliterate the Olympics when she hasn't even qualified and came 5th in the penultimate qualification having only made two clean lifts in her past nine international competitions?https://www.insidethegames.biz/articles/1091321/we...
popeyewhite said:
WinstonWolf said:
A mystery why he was allowed to compete as a woman. In general sporting events are organised by sex, not gender. Event results will be viewed as worthless amongst competitors.amusingduck said:
popeyewhite said:
WinstonWolf said:
A mystery why he was allowed to compete as a woman. In general sporting events are organised by sex, not gender. Event results will be viewed as worthless amongst competitors.Bacon Is Proof said:
The Wookie said:
Bacon Is Proof said:
There's only really one conclusion and that doesn't solve many of the problems being discussed.
Can't we all just go for pint?
I disagree, I think it solves all of the problems being discussedCan't we all just go for pint?
Maybe we should have an international 'We don't give a s
t how you want to live your life' day...going for the pint is definitely the safer option.
popeyewhite said:
IAAF state biology is the athletic classification marker not gender. Semenya is DSD and will have to have her testosterone levels decreased medically if she wants to compete against women in the future.
Only in certain events , which just happen to be the ones where she competes. Everywhere else she's womanly enough and that makes no sense at all as the male/female difference in performance is about 10-15 %. Bacon Is Proof said:
Johnnytheboy said:
I'm trying to imagine an PH NPE pub meet
If I hadn't have just been kicked out of my pub, I'd have been up for hosting that.
- You'd have one table for most people then a small table of very loud angry people.
- Some people would be in very poor quality disguises
- There would have been a massive fight between the two tables after about ten minutes
- Any more?
descentia said:
Only in certain events , which just happen to be the ones where she competes.
descentia said:
Everywhere else she's womanly enough and that makes no sense at all as the male/female difference in performance is about 10-15 %.
It makes perfect sense as she competes with the testosterone levels of a man. It's unfortunate for her, but it's even more unfortunate and unfair for the hundreds of other women competitiors. Common sense prevailed, thankfully.Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff