UK unemployment total hits highest in 17 years

[Hell27]

Thanks pacman!

[Mojocvh]

chris watton said:

Guam said:

Yes but we have reduced our CO2 emmissions so its all ok

...And lest we forget the hundreds of thousands of green jobs they promised... Phew, thank the lord for them...

Oh....

Just set up some windfarms and employ those "expensive" locals to build and maintain them then, jobs a good 'un.

[nyxster]

legalised prostitution is the answer.

we currently import most of our hookah's from EU accession states for the delection of London City boys and tourists.

980'000 unemployed of the under 20 something. at least 50% probably birds so thats 480K of them. 1 in 10 is probably a looker and a 500 quid a hour job, the rest could probably ply their trade in yorkshire since they usually like fat birds so realistically 250K could be employable. chuck in a 100K rent boys for the shirt lifters and you have created 350K quite well paid jobs with hours that don't interfere with the jeremy kyle show doing something they generally do on a friday night in a alley for free.

the side benefit is you would get a lot of the OAP's in fuel poverty back into employment as maid's, restart the BTL market by filling up all the empty city centre flats with tarts.

who says we can't trade ourselves out of recession.

[Boogsie]

nyxster said:

legalised prostitution is the answer.

we currently import most of our hookah's from EU accession states for the delection of London City boys and tourists.

980'000 unemployed of the under 20 something. at least 50% probably birds so thats 480K of them. 1 in 10 is probably a looker and a 500 quid a hour job, the rest could probably ply their trade in yorkshire since they usually like fat birds so realistically 250K could be employable. chuck in a 100K rent boys for the shirt lifters and you have created 350K quite well paid jobs with hours that don't interfere with the jeremy kyle show doing something they generally do on a friday night in a alley for free.

the side benefit is you would get a lot of the OAP's in fuel poverty back into employment as maid's, restart the BTL market by filling up all the empty city centre flats with tarts.

who says we can't trade ourselves out of recession.

[Guybrush]

fbrs said:

maix27 said:

people forget Labour were voted in because of the mess the Tories made

it has been a very, very long time since uk plc was in as good a shape as it was in 1997. the budget deficit was zero. ZERO. please elaborate on the "mess the Tories made". i'm going to take a wild stab in the dark you were 16 or 17 and your opinion is what someone else told you? here's a few figures i dug up last year...

                                         1997   2007   2010

National Debt (Bn)                       348bn  500bn  776bn

Budget Deficit (Bn)                      0bn    84bn   171bn

Unfunded public pension liabilites       270bn  730bn  886bn (2009)

Inflation (RPI)                          3%     4.5%   4.4%

Personal Debt (Bn)                       503bn  1346bn 1460bn

FTSE                                     4800   6500   5200

Industrial Production 10Year Ann Average +1.7%  +0.1%  -1.6%

Manufacturing Prod 10Year Ann Average    +1.9%  +0.5%  -1.1%

Balance of trade (Bn/yr, + is surplus)   +4.4   -44.9  -34.2                         

Edited by fbrs on Friday 14th October 03:20

Proof that Labour supporters are deluded (oh and that Brown, Bliar, Darling and so on should be in court on charges of wilfull destruction of an economy (if there is such a charge, otherwise surely something could be made to stick...)

And Labour supporters, are you embarrassed yet?

[Engineer1]

Highway Star said:

Happy82 said:

We found the same, we had an apprentice opening at the rate of £7/hour (toolmaking) and decided to give up in the end.

I've been recruiting for a position in my team for 5 months now and haven't found anyone who is a decent enough fit. It's reasonably entry level, but the person would need a year's experience (market research, so not exactly rocket science). We are going to have to downgrade the position and just get a bright graduate and spend time training them up

I know of several other clientside research functions in other large global organisations who are struggling to recruit at the moment.

Given the state of the economy looking for someone with a small amount of experience is likely to be hard. A lot of companies are hiring skilled staff and forgetting that to get skilled staff someone HAS to give them the first job break to give them the experience. 1 year would put them hired during this economic slow down and I doubt that many exist who are in this position and willing to move.

[B Huey]

fbrs said:

it has been a very, very long time since uk plc was in as good a shape as it was in 1997. the budget deficit was zero. ZERO. please elaborate on the "mess the Tories made". i'm going to take a wild stab in the dark you were 16 or 17 and your opinion is what someone else told you? here's a few figures i dug up last year...

                                         1997   2007   2010

National Debt (Bn)                       348bn  500bn  776bn

Budget Deficit (Bn)                      0bn    84bn   171bn

Unfunded public pension liabilites       270bn  730bn  886bn (2009)

Inflation (RPI)                          3%     4.5%   4.4%

Personal Debt (Bn)                       503bn  1346bn 1460bn

FTSE                                     4800   6500   5200

Industrial Production 10Year Ann Average +1.7%  +0.1%  -1.6%

Manufacturing Prod 10Year Ann Average    +1.9%  +0.5%  -1.1%

Balance of trade (Bn/yr, + is surplus)   +4.4   -44.9  -34.2                         

Edited by fbrs on Friday 14th October 03:20

When Labour ran a budget surplus they were heavily criticized by Tory leader William Hague for hoarding tax payers money.

[muffinmenace]

B Huey said:

When Labour ran a budget surplus they were heavily criticized by Tory leader William Hague for hoarding tax payers money.

Out of all the questions to you, you just make a statement? Do you have any articles for that statement?

[thinfourth2]

Guybrush said:

Proof that Labour supporters are deluded (oh and that Brown, Bliar, Darling and so on should be in court on charges of wilfull destruction of an economy (if there is such a charge, otherwise surely something could be made to stick...)

And Labour supporters, are you embarrassed yet?

I just wish there was some other option then labour or tory

[Mr Dave]

I wish I could find any of these jobs looking for people but cant fill them, Im working part time, which is the best I could find in a year and a half. Trying to get trade training/apprenticeship? Sorry near impossible unless you are 16! Cant afford to pay for training as cant get work, cant get grants towards it because I sometimes work more than 16 hours a week.

I work bloody hard, havent had a day off for years, always on time yadda yadda yadda and I get turned down for jobs and a Polish or Romanian gets it.

fk it im leaving.

[Happy82]

johnxjsc1985 said:

Who where these people lauding Brown as a genius chancellor???????

My economics lecturer was one of them, we even had to do a presentation on Winky Mcfknut and his 'economic miracle'

My presentation went on the offensive explaining that he was pissing money up the wall creating public sector non-jobs,shifting the spongers to disability benefits etc to mask unemployment figures. My lecturer was unhappy however my predictions of a nasty fall came true, sadly he never replied to my email sent two years ago stating 'Told you so'

[CHIEF]

Happy82 said:

My economics lecturer was one of them, we even had to do a presentation on Winky Mcfknut and his 'economic miracle'

My presentation went on the offensive explaining that he was pissing money up the wall creating public sector non-jobs,shifting the spongers to disability benefits etc to mask unemployment figures. My lecturer was unhappy however my predictions of a nasty fall came true, sadly he never replied to my email sent two years ago stating 'Told you so'

'Kin good lad.

[Johnnytheboy]

muffinmenace said:

B Huey said:

When Labour ran a budget surplus they were heavily criticized by Tory leader William Hague for hoarding tax payers money.

Out of all the questions to you, you just make a statement? Do you have any articles for that statement?

That's a new one on me too.

[Negative Creep]

Mr Dave said:

I wish I could find any of these jobs looking for people but cant fill them, Im working part time, which is the best I could find in a year and a half. Trying to get trade training/apprenticeship? Sorry near impossible unless you are 16! Cant afford to pay for training as cant get work, cant get grants towards it because I sometimes work more than 16 hours a week.

I work bloody hard, havent had a day off for years, always on time yadda yadda yadda and I get turned down for jobs and a Polish or Romanian gets it.

fk it im leaving.

Whilst we're at it, how about a couple of these posts where employers whinge people only turn up for interviews to keep claiming their JSA?

[anonymous-user]

muffinmenace said:

B Huey said:

When Labour ran a budget surplus they were heavily criticized by Tory leader William Hague for hoarding tax payers money.

Out of all the questions to you, you just make a statement? Do you have any articles for that statement?

it's partially true. labours first term spending and taxation were, to their credit, unchanged from the previous governments... it was even in their manifesto http://www.independent.co.uk/news/election-97-labo...
by 2000 the torys were calling for tax cuts http://www.nytimes.com/2000/07/19/news/19iht-brit.... so in a sense they did want the gov to 'stop hoarding' money. the implication is that the torys were calling for more nulab style worthless spending, but as ever with these people you've got to see through the spin.

Edited by fbrs on Saturday 15th October 18:01

[Sticks.]

Happy82 said:

.....shifting the spongers to disability benefits etc to mask unemployment figures.

Iirc this practice started in the early eighties. Also about that time people's private pension was taken off their (non means tested) Unemployment Benefit and those only entitled to NI credits weren't required to sign on fortnightly any more and were counted differently so not a New Labour idea I'm afraid.