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7mike

3,025 posts

195 months

Sunday 9th December 2012
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bobdole said:
Well people have varying degrees of things they want to keep secret , me for example secretly enjoy X Factor with my wife yet would never dare tell my closest friends that I have anything but distain for it and its destruction of music and all that other pretentious crap me and my friends bang on about whilst spouting the virtues of Led Zep.
But what if met some chaps online who liked X factor also... people who I realised wouldn't berate me for it?

Ok a deliberate comical context, but it stands, some peados will have 'normal' friends, normal jobs family life yet there is this section of their life where they and some close friends will share a sordid secret. It's not hard to find people with. similar preferences, we as humans do it all the time. Not forgetting in life there's the dominant leaders and the submissive followers, you wonder is there maybe 2 -3 prominant ring leaders on these groups, maybe just 1 leader and the rest sort of fall into it. Mayve even want to stop it but just can't... like I say complex. Sadly some people have to try to work it out even though it would be nice to just grab a can of petrol and go burn down their home with then inside.

Things happen all the time where someone will witness something and afterwards wish they had of done something to stop it, I have witnessed a man being beaten up and I didn't get involved instead I rang the police, I wish I had of had the guts and build to intervene but I didn't. I'd doubt all these gang members are leader and strong so that Is a massive part as to why when it starts to go beyond the lines some people are unable to stop it or themselves mixture of weakness fear and again sadly childhood issues.

Edited by bobdole on Sunday 9th December 21:11
So it's just coincidental then that a lot of these weak, easily lead chaps up here in East lancashire happen to drive taxis and hang out in takeaways?

Edited by 7mike on Sunday 9th December 21:50

Chrisw666

22,655 posts

201 months

Sunday 9th December 2012
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whistle


bobdole said:
Best prostitutes I ever had the pleasure of sexual liaisons with were some lovely Thai girls in bankok ... wonderful, Prague was scary, Amsterdam was full of stunners but ruined by the northern stag do brigade ...I slept with prostitutes not from need but for the experience. I am an extremely handsome man.
Wonder if he got formal ID from the Thai girls.

Lotusevoraboy

937 posts

149 months

Sunday 9th December 2012
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It's a power thing. Traditionally un powerful, victimised, second class non White citizens getting big kicks out of doing White chicks. It's no different to a White guy wanting to nail a posh bird, coloured woman or an Asian woman to assert his dominance....except when Asian gangs do it they prey on kids and therefore utterly vile.

rand hobart

64 posts

158 months

Monday 10th December 2012
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http://www.channel4.com/programmes/unreported-worl...

I was shocked by this. I dont know why though as I have read Wafa Sultan's excellent book "A God Who Hates"
I would highly recommend it to anybody trying to understand the attitude of a great many Muslim men to women and girls. Western women and girls in particular.
Re bobdole I don't understand why when one person is trying to derail a thread to suit his own agenda everybody keeps responding to him. Show a bit of discipline and ignore him.

CaptainSlow

13,179 posts

214 months

Monday 10th December 2012
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Chrisw666 said:
whistle


bobdole said:
Best prostitutes I ever had the pleasure of sexual liaisons with were some lovely Thai girls in bankok ... wonderful, Prague was scary, Amsterdam was full of stunners but ruined by the northern stag do brigade ...I slept with prostitutes not from need but for the experience. I am an extremely handsome man.
Wonder if he got formal ID from the Thai girls.
MOD EDIT: There is a line. Please do not cross it.

Edited by TonyHetherington on Monday 10th December 09:55

bobdole

85 posts

139 months

Monday 10th December 2012
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CaptainSlow said:
Chrisw666 said:
whistle


bobdole said:
Best prostitutes I ever had the pleasure of sexual liaisons with were some lovely Thai girls in bankok ... wonderful, Prague was scary, Amsterdam was full of stunners but ruined by the northern stag do brigade ...I slept with prostitutes not from need but for the experience. I am an extremely handsome man.
Wonder if he got formal ID from the Thai girls.
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You must have a good lawyer. Be very careful of the written word, its hard to retract.

Edited by TonyHetherington on Monday 10th December 09:55

bobdole

85 posts

139 months

Monday 10th December 2012
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BliarOut said:
What ages and what time?

I have daughters in their early teens, what time should they be in?

I just would like to know because it seems you are saying its not the fault of these gangs, but the fault of the girls because they were outdoors...
Again find evidence that is what im saying. As you know i'm saying that take away the fact alot of these men are Asian as they work prodominantly in those areas late at night. So we allow vunerable girls to wonder the streets but we have locked up every single Asian man.
How long till those girls start getting taken advantage of and abused by the next group of men, whether they are their own age or older they will have a big likelyhood of being abused.
You seem to suggest get rid of Asian men and muslims and white girls in care can still go out drinking till 2am in total safty.

andymadmak

Original Poster:

14,693 posts

272 months

Monday 10th December 2012
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bobdole said:
CaptainSlow said:
Chrisw666 said:
whistle


bobdole said:
Best prostitutes I ever had the pleasure of sexual liaisons with were some lovely Thai girls in bankok ... wonderful, Prague was scary, Amsterdam was full of stunners but ruined by the northern stag do brigade ...I slept with prostitutes not from need but for the experience. I am an extremely handsome man.
Wonder if he got formal ID from the Thai girls.
Ok, so an abuser himself then.
You must have a good lawyer. Be very careful of the written word, its hard to retract.
Whats the matter Bob? Dish it out but can't take it? A couple of posts back you were making nasty insinuations about why I started this thread.

How old were the girls?

BliarOut

72,857 posts

241 months

Monday 10th December 2012
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bobdole said:
BliarOut said:
What ages and what time?

I have daughters in their early teens, what time should they be in?

I just would like to know because it seems you are saying its not the fault of these gangs, but the fault of the girls because they were outdoors...
Again find evidence that is what im saying. As you know i'm saying that take away the fact alot of these men are Asian as they work prodominantly in those areas late at night. So we allow vunerable girls to wonder the streets but we have locked up every single Asian man.
How long till those girls start getting taken advantage of and abused by the next group of men, whether they are their own age or older they will have a big likelyhood of being abused.
You seem to suggest get rid of Asian men and muslims and white girls in care can still go out drinking till 2am in total safty.
Nope, they're your words, not mine.

Let's say your daughter is old enough to go out on her own and it's her they choose to groom. Will it be your fault for allowing her to grow up and be out after dark or the fault of the gang?

JensenA

5,671 posts

232 months

Monday 10th December 2012
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CaptainSlow said:
Chrisw666 said:
whistle


bobdole said:
Best prostitutes I ever had the pleasure of sexual liaisons with were some lovely Thai girls in bankok ... wonderful, Prague was scary, Amsterdam was full of stunners but ruined by the northern stag do brigade ...I slept with prostitutes not from need but for the experience. I am an extremely handsome man.
Wonder if he got formal ID from the Thai girls.
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If you read Bobdole's post he said 'Prostitutes'. no mention whatsover of ages.
YOU and Chrisw666 are the ones jumping to conclusions, and unwittingly baring your small inner secret of a fixation on younger girls.

alfaman

6,416 posts

236 months

Monday 10th December 2012
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bobdole said:
wonder the streets .
thought provoking

CaptainSlow

13,179 posts

214 months

Monday 10th December 2012
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JensenA said:
YOU and Chrisw666 are the ones jumping to conclusions, and unwittingly baring your small inner secret of a fixation on younger girls.
I think we'd better change the subject before we all need lawyers.

andymadmak

Original Poster:

14,693 posts

272 months

Monday 10th December 2012
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JensenA said:
If you read Bobdole's post he said 'Prostitutes'. no mention whatsover of ages.
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Yes. However, taken in context of how Bobby likes to read stuff into other peoples posts its not unreasonable to question his actions in this regard. A certain Mr Gadd could no doubt educate us as to the ages of a number of Thai prostitutes.

andymadmak

Original Poster:

14,693 posts

272 months

Monday 10th December 2012
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JensenA said:
YOU and Chrisw666 are the ones jumping to conclusions, and unwittingly baring your small inner secret of a fixation on younger girls.
Bobby uses the word girls in connection with the Thai prostitutes

CaptainSlow

13,179 posts

214 months

Monday 10th December 2012
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JensenA said:
If you read Bobdole's post he said 'Prostitutes'. no mention whatsover of ages.
It doesn't matter or the girls ages, educate yourself on what goes on behind the scenes of prostitution. Pretty heartbreaking stuff.

ruz316

109 posts

161 months

Monday 10th December 2012
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too many people worrying about asians when they should be looking closer to home

this is a universal problem

btw theres a token asian muslim man in there lol should keep some of you happy

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2208292/De...

MX7

7,902 posts

176 months

Monday 10th December 2012
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ruz316 said:
too many people worrying about asians when they should be looking closer to home

this is a universal problem

btw theres a token asian muslim man in there lol should keep some of you happy

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2208292/De...
banghead

bobdole

85 posts

139 months

Monday 10th December 2012
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BliarOut said:
bobdole said:
BliarOut said:
What ages and what time?

I have daughters in their early teens, what time should they be in?

I just would like to know because it seems you are saying its not the fault of these gangs, but the fault of the girls because they were outdoors...
Again find evidence that is what im saying. As you know i'm saying that take away the fact alot of these men are Asian as they work prodominantly in those areas late at night. So we allow vunerable girls to wonder the streets but we have locked up every single Asian man.
How long till those girls start getting taken advantage of and abused by the next group of men, whether they are their own age or older they will have a big likelyhood of being abused.
You seem to suggest get rid of Asian men and muslims and white girls in care can still go out drinking till 2am in total safty.
Nope, they're your words, not mine.

Let's say your daughter is old enough to go out on her own and it's her they choose to groom. Will it be your fault for allowing her to grow up and be out after dark or the fault of the gang?
Oh grow up , there's dangerous sick vile people out there, of course I can't keep tabs on my daughter all the time but as a 12 year old I would not want her roaming the streets all night, even in my leafy middle class white area. It's frankly not where a 12 year old should be in a kebab shop or hanging around taxi ranks. Therefore a duty of care to those girls was ignored because they were aloud to freely get into dangerous situations, how is that an unfair response? Education is key and if if give the vunerable girls self confidence and love and care they won't seek to find it elsewhere from people who will abuse their trust.
This is why you try as a parent to give your kids a chance or at least you should do. You don't tell your kid to accept lifts from strangers because its dangerous and a massive risk.
It dosen't mean I'd blame them if something terrible happend and they ignored my advice , but at least I try to educate my daughter as to what dangers are present... as I would advise girls and boys in care and keep they as safe as possible. There's some highly paid social workers who should of been sacked over this yet they have done defenders on here suggesting no one was to blame. I personally think to social services and police could of avoided a lot more carnage if they had done a proper job.

Edited by bobdole on Monday 10th December 10:32

BliarOut

72,857 posts

241 months

Monday 10th December 2012
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bobdole said:
BliarOut said:
bobdole said:
BliarOut said:
What ages and what time?

I have daughters in their early teens, what time should they be in?

I just would like to know because it seems you are saying its not the fault of these gangs, but the fault of the girls because they were outdoors...
Again find evidence that is what im saying. As you know i'm saying that take away the fact alot of these men are Asian as they work prodominantly in those areas late at night. So we allow vunerable girls to wonder the streets but we have locked up every single Asian man.
How long till those girls start getting taken advantage of and abused by the next group of men, whether they are their own age or older they will have a big likelyhood of being abused.
You seem to suggest get rid of Asian men and muslims and white girls in care can still go out drinking till 2am in total safty.
Nope, they're your words, not mine.

Let's say your daughter is old enough to go out on her own and it's her they choose to groom. Will it be your fault for allowing her to grow up and be out after dark or the fault of the gang?
Oh grow up , there's dangerous sick vile people out there, of course I can't keep tabs on my daughter all the time but as a 12 year old I would not want her roaming the streets all night, even in my leafy middle class white area. It's frankly not where a 12 year old should be in a kebab shop or hanging around taxi ranks. Therefore a duty of care to those girls was ignored because they were aloud to freely get into dangerous situations, how is that an unfair response? Education is key and if if give the vunerable girls self confidence and love and care they won't seek to find it elsewhere from people who will abuse their trust.
This is why you try as a parent to give your kids a chance or at least you should do. You don't tell your kid to accept lifts from strangers because its dangerous and a massive risk.
I'm merely countering your point that somehow thirteen year old girls in some way have to shoulder the blame...
Looks a bit silly when you actually think about it.

Lost_BMW

12,955 posts

178 months

Monday 10th December 2012
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rand hobart said:
http://www.channel4.com/programmes/unreported-worl...

I was shocked by this.

Re bobdole I don't understand why when one person is trying to derail a thread to suit his own agenda everybody keeps responding to him. Show a bit of discipline and ignore him.
[bobdole] If you are shocked by this it is only because you are a rant and hate filled racist in denial of the evil of all men. Why do you hate those Egyptian and Asian men so much, so much more than your own? Frat parties are the root of all evil. And men. BTW I am considerably handsomer than you. Prostitutes should be grateful for my custom. I am under a psychiatrist, I know how the troll human mind works, I can help you (all) with your problem. Fancy a visit consultation, or some Ratalin (sic)? I have no axe to grind against social services, honest... etc. etc. etc. Back off under the stone at Troll central with sad shake of head and "I give up" shrug of shoulders now...[/bobdole]

Hopefully.

Sorry, but sometimes feeding the troll serves a purpose, like exposing the mind behind the serial crass comments and unwarranted accusations against other posters said troll might otherwise get away with.