Pigs at the trough 2016

[0000]

Are you a member?

[Rovinghawk]

crankedup said:

Rovinghawk said:

crankedup said:

mr Walker is spot on whereas you are not, but hey ho.

He knows what the future holds? How can he do this? I think he's guessing.

Stuff.

You say Walker has predicted what the govt will do unless his suggestions are met. I ask how he knows the future & you haven't answered that.
If his prophecy isn't definite then maybe his other comments aren't 100% certain.

[Rovinghawk]

crankedup said:

I would expect people to at least know of the boss of the insituite of directors!

I refer you to my earlier comment about "Don't know, don't care." I presume that many others feel the same way.

[crankedup]

Rovinghawk said:

crankedup said:

Rovinghawk said:

crankedup said:

mr Walker is spot on whereas you are not, but hey ho.

He knows what the future holds? How can he do this? I think he's guessing.

Stuff.

You say Walker has predicted what the govt will do unless his suggestions are met. I ask how he knows the future & you haven't answered that.
If his prophecy isn't definite then maybe his other comments aren't 100% certain.

I should have said Mr Walker has warned that the Government MAY step in. My error, apologies.
Nobody knows the future I agree, but some are in better situations or positions than others to make considered judgements regarding the future. It's what CEO and board members do for a living and then make the predictions into reality. So it's not some form of mystical power, simply influence. Walker certainly carries influence, not enough to go it alone regarding this discussion matter but enough to drive the objections forward imo.

[crankedup]

Rovinghawk said:

crankedup said:

I would expect people to at least know of the boss of the insituite of directors!

I refer you to my earlier comment about "Don't know, don't care." I presume that many others feel the same way.

Maybe, but I just find it surprising that on a forum such as this being full of big hairy chested company directors that you make such a presumption. The institute has multiple tens of thousands of members and is the leading institute for directors of companies both large and small. The boss is very proactive consulting with the powerful and influential people, including Government, by no means remaining silent behind his desk. This is why his stance against excessive boardroom pay is very relevant and seriously considered.

[0000]

Are you a director?

[Jockman]

crankedup said:

Maybe, but I just find it surprising that on a forum such as this being full of big hairy chested company directors that you make such a presumption.

You make an assumption to critique a presumption. Classic

[crankedup]

0000 said:

Are you a director?

I sold my business and retired some years back now. The opportunity arose to be able to sell up to an American Company and we took it. The American Company was very active buying up businesses such as mine, independant. After purchase they retained the independant name as part of their strategy. I couldn't, at the time of their aggressive buyouts see the future for independents as being one of continued growth or perhaps viability in the longer term. Small man meets American giant.
I'm not bleating about it, in fact looking back we did OK by it.

Having divulged a little of myself, care to return the complement?

[0000]

I'm a director. Did you decide the IoD membership was worth it at the time?

[crankedup]

Jockman said:

crankedup said:

Maybe, but I just find it surprising that on a forum such as this being full of big hairy chested company directors that you make such a presumption.

You make an assumption to critique a presumption. Classic

No assumption made by me here! Merely expressed surprise. The reference to the big hairy chested directors in here is a very long standing 'in joke'.

[crankedup]

0000 said:

I'm a director. Did you decide the IoD membership was worth it at the time?

No, I was a member of various Institutes but all concerning my business activity. The business was directly related to Burials and cremations, I found the professional Insitutes offered everything required of the business and personally in terms of training, legislation and all the rest of it. Been retired for almost fifteen years now, I can fully recommend such action to others.

Can you tell me of the business you are involved with, just curious, nothing more.

[0000]

Software consultancy, mostly to central government departments. I've been a member of various organisations more specific to my industry too, but never felt the IoD worth it either.

[Jockman]

crankedup said:

0000 said:

I'm a director. Did you decide the IoD membership was worth it at the time?

No, I was a member of various Institutes but all concerning my business activity. The business was directly related to Burials and cremations....

My line of business too, but on the 'wood' side. I left IoD many years ago as I didn't find it relevant.

[crankedup]

Jockman said:

crankedup said:

0000 said:

I'm a director. Did you decide the IoD membership was worth it at the time?

No, I was a member of various Institutes but all concerning my business activity. The business was directly related to Burials and cremations....

My line of business too, but on the 'wood' side. I left IoD many years ago as I didn't find it relevant.

I was very heavily involved with the creation of 'Woodland Burials', introducing the concept back in 1997. It was my last major major initiative before retiring. At the time of creating and evolving I found it quite stressful with far to many media activities going on along with promoting the concept. I seriously considered buying disused farmland and such like for the use of woodland burial grounds, however the legislation was so tight regarding burial grounds and the capital investment required made me decide against it. The return on capital was also, by the very nature of the business, very protracted making the decision not to invest fairly easy. Looking back I should have gone for it and then sold off the grounds as the concept grew. Hindsight is a wonderful thing. Meanwhile at least I can leave something positive behind valued by Society.

[anonymous-user]

crankedup said:

I was very heavily involved with the creation of 'Woodland Burials'

I never heard of it till now. Thats a great idea.

[Jockman]

fblm said:

crankedup said:

I was very heavily involved with the creation of 'Woodland Burials'

I never heard of it till now. Thats a great idea.

Doing very well and the big boys (Coop, Bibby etc) are now in on the act. Can be a very expensive option and I'm heavily regulated in what I can provide.

[anonymous-user]

Jockman said:

fblm said:

crankedup said:

I was very heavily involved with the creation of 'Woodland Burials'

I never heard of it till now. Thats a great idea.

Doing very well and the big boys (Coop, Bibby etc) are now in on the act. Can be a very expensive option and I'm heavily regulated in what I can provide.

Presumably it safeguards the woods from future development? We can't all do a Felix Dennis but if my dead body can help stop Barratt from building a swathe of stty semi's in place of green belt then dig me a hole!

[Jockman]

fblm said:

Jockman said:

fblm said:

crankedup said:

I was very heavily involved with the creation of 'Woodland Burials'

I never heard of it till now. Thats a great idea.

Doing very well and the big boys (Coop, Bibby etc) are now in on the act. Can be a very expensive option and I'm heavily regulated in what I can provide.

Presumably it safeguards the woods from future development? We can't all do a Felix Dennis but if my dead body can help stop Barratt from building a swathe of stty semi's in place of green belt then dig me a hole!

We do have a housing shortage you know

Bury yourself at the bottom of your garden and stick a tree on your head.

[anonymous-user]

Jockman said:

Bury yourself at the bottom of your garden and stick a tree on your head.

[crankedup]

Chance to blow my very old trumpet. When we introduced woodland burials the only other site was in Scotland. I wanted to provide a service choice away from the usual Victorian municipal cemetery with all its dreadful, imo, restrictive regulations. We introduced the concept of providing a burial space without headstones, instead we planned for trees to be planted instead. Bereaved were invited to a tree planting service whereby they could, if they so wished, to plant a tree. Also to sow wildflower seeds and plant native woodland bulbs. Memorial plaques could be purchased and attach these to a timber wall nearby. Many other new ideas included the provision of a Memorisl garden like no other introducing a large water pool, rustic seating and so on. One problem we had was to overcome the idea of coffins not being, at the time, traditional
.MDF with plastic adornment was not permitted to be used in woodland burials. I invited businesses involved in the industry to come forward with new ideas. This was all met with some hostility with some suggesting the concept would ruin business. Nothing further from the truth, it actually enhanced businesses by offering an alternative to the established.
It's the one thing that I can say gave the most satisfaction in my professional life and I remain today with pride that I was able to offer this service as the only business to do so in the UK except Scotland.

Now my cat is out of its bag.