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Disastrous

10,091 posts

218 months

Monday 19th June 2017
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Mr GrimNasty said:
loan wolf
Get your own!

rscott

14,802 posts

192 months

Monday 19th June 2017
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Disastrous said:
Mr GrimNasty said:
loan wolf
Get your own!
roflrofl

Dindoit

1,645 posts

95 months

Monday 19th June 2017
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Disastrous said:
Mr GrimNasty said:
loan wolf
Get your own!
Much cheaper to rent these days

cahami

Original Poster:

1,248 posts

207 months

Monday 19th June 2017
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Dindoit said:
Disastrous said:
Mr GrimNasty said:
loan wolf
Get your own!
Much cheaper to rent these days
Do these come free with hire vans from wales? To round the sheep up.

S11Steve

6,374 posts

185 months

Monday 19th June 2017
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saaby93 said:
And now they're shifting the blame to the welsh rolleyes

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-40323929

Welsh hire van, since when did the van know it was welsh
In other incidents, were the vans of English nationality

Sorry the original link



Edited by saaby93 on Monday 19th June 09:37
The van was bought and registered in England - PO64CSF

The rental company will have copies of the driving licence, NI number, and the usual forms of ID to hire a vehicle, I'm pretty sure this would be useful in any investigation.

RedTrident

8,290 posts

236 months

Monday 19th June 2017
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Dindoit said:
Surely with all the white revert nutters what you really need is one based upon beards....

chrisb92

1,051 posts

125 months

Monday 19th June 2017
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Dindoit said:
Disastrous said:
Mr GrimNasty said:
loan wolf
Get your own!
Much cheaper to rent these days
Cheaper and quicker to get a Golf R lease.

Munter

31,319 posts

242 months

Monday 19th June 2017
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S11Steve said:
The van was bought and registered in England - PO64CSF

The rental company will have copies of the driving licence, NI number, and the usual forms of ID to hire a vehicle, I'm pretty sure this would be useful in any investigation.
I'm reasonably sure the "man wot dunit", has probably handed over that information anyway. This doesn't strike me as a plan where the perpetrator is intending to hide who he is. I would not think he thought much beyond "Hire a van, mow some people down. That'll show em. Yeah."

TTmonkey

20,911 posts

248 months

Monday 19th June 2017
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Are the police going to smash down doors, arrest the family, friends, colleagues and neighbours of this guy down in Wales, keep them all in custody for 72 hours, and then quietly release them all without charges connected to the incident, I wonder....?

Vaud

50,770 posts

156 months

Monday 19th June 2017
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S11Steve said:
The rental company will have copies of the driving licence, NI number, and the usual forms of ID to hire a vehicle, I'm pretty sure this would be useful in any investigation.
When do you give an NI number to hire a vehicle?

Alpinestars

13,954 posts

245 months

Monday 19th June 2017
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LocoCoco said:
bmw535i suspiciously not posted since this incident.
As well as many others who are at the forefront of most other terror attack threads. Conspicuously absent in words or condemnation.

For those thinking this is inevitable because of the Manchester and London attacks, I fear you are right. Many nutters will jump to a cause. The thoughts and retribution are no different to those in earlier terror attacks. Killing innocent people is always going to disenfranchise people. And some are stupid and nutty enough to channel the anger into killing other innocent people.


Oakey

27,610 posts

217 months

Monday 19th June 2017
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TTmonkey said:
Are the police going to smash down doors, arrest the family, friends, colleagues and neighbours of this guy down in Wales, keep them all in custody for 72 hours, and then quietly release them all without charges connected to the incident, I wonder....?
Is he 'already known to the police', etc?

S11Steve

6,374 posts

185 months

Monday 19th June 2017
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Vaud said:
When do you give an NI number to hire a vehicle?
Since the paper counterpart of the licence was removed, it is now needed for the online driving licence check for endorsements.

https://www.gov.uk/view-driving-licence

Vaud

50,770 posts

156 months

Monday 19th June 2017
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S11Steve said:
Vaud said:
When do you give an NI number to hire a vehicle?
Since the paper counterpart of the licence was removed, it is now needed for the online driving licence check for endorsements.

https://www.gov.uk/view-driving-licence
Ahh... shows how long it is since I rented...

p1stonhead

25,710 posts

168 months

Monday 19th June 2017
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S11Steve said:
Vaud said:
When do you give an NI number to hire a vehicle?
Since the paper counterpart of the licence was removed, it is now needed for the online driving licence check for endorsements.

https://www.gov.uk/view-driving-licence
No one actually checks that though in my experience. Ive rented loads since this came in and mentioned the code to people at the desk - they always say 'huh?'

TTmonkey

20,911 posts

248 months

Monday 19th June 2017
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Oakey said:
TTmonkey said:
Are the police going to smash down doors, arrest the family, friends, colleagues and neighbours of this guy down in Wales, keep them all in custody for 72 hours, and then quietly release them all without charges connected to the incident, I wonder....?
Is he 'already known to the police', etc?
I'm sure he's going to turn out to be some utter loser that blames everyone else for his life being a shambles. So probably yes would be my guess.

Someone said it was likely someone that's had too many Stella's. I'm guessing he's been sat in the sun all day drinking Strongbow actually.

Dindoit

1,645 posts

95 months

Monday 19th June 2017
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Alpinestars said:
LocoCoco said:
bmw535i suspiciously not posted since this incident.
As well as many others who are at the forefront of most other terror attack threads. Conspicuously absent in words or condemnation.

For those thinking this is inevitable because of the Manchester and London attacks, I fear you are right. Many nutters will jump to a cause. The thoughts and retribution are no different to those in earlier terror attacks. Killing innocent people is always going to disenfranchise people. And some are stupid and nutty enough to channel the anger into killing other innocent people.
I wonder what pushes people like this into it?

NoIP

559 posts

85 months

Monday 19th June 2017
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S11Steve said:
Vaud said:
When do you give an NI number to hire a vehicle?
Since the paper counterpart of the licence was removed, it is now needed for the online driving licence check for endorsements.

https://www.gov.uk/view-driving-licence
That's not actually true at all and has become the latest urban myth. You do not have to provide your NINO. Instead you log in to your online DL page and create a public link to third parties to view specific parts of your driving licence. You then give the link to people such as the car hire company so that they can check your licence is valid, any endorsements and basic details of your identity.

Munter

31,319 posts

242 months

Monday 19th June 2017
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p1stonhead said:
No one actually checks that though. Ive rented loads since this came in and mentioned the code to people at the desk - they always say 'huh?'
Depends what you are renting.

For instance I'm renting a v8 Mustang next month*, they specifically said on the phone that without the code, no car.

  • (at the request of a 16yo for Prom. Personally I thought he should buy a Vespa and go on that himself...apparently I'm not cool.).

Stickyfinger

8,429 posts

106 months

Monday 19th June 2017
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Oakey said:
TTmonkey said:
Are the police going to smash down doors, arrest the family, friends, colleagues and neighbours of this guy down in Wales, keep them all in custody for 72 hours, and then quietly release them all without charges connected to the incident, I wonder....?
Is he 'already known to the police', etc?
If (as it seems) he is known to have mental "stability" problems....why would they ?

I am sure they will be interviewing them however as there may be information regarding right wing propaganda they would like to look at....as they do with Islamic extreme propaganda. (vastly more available from around the world as well know).

I think you can be assured that this chap has not been travelling to know terrorist hot spot etc....

Your attempt to "victimise and single out as racist" the actions of the police when faced with possible "cells" vrs a "nutter" is a very weak attempt to claim the race/Islamophobia card.

I find the gathering of a lynch mob (that the police struggled to contain) a worrying factor.