Elon Musk and Pedo Cave Rescuer Claim.
Discussion
Gargamel said:
r11co said:
4x4Tyke said:
otolith said:
The subsequent comment from him - "Bet ya a signed dollar it's true" - suggests otherwise.
... and what it that actually supposed to mean?Like 10 gets you a 100, or bet ya bottom dollar or any other similar phrase.
Cold said:
I'm a fan of Elon Musk's work but he most definitely deserved this. 
tWhatever prompted him to make such an allegation is no excuse and he must apologise. He's certainly given his detractors a huge amount of ammunition to have a go at him. Silly boy.
Ayahuasca said:
How can it possibly take off? It is all about the air over the wings, and there would be none. Last time we debated this we decided it could not take off.
Aircraft wheels are free running not driven, the propeller or jet would pull/push it forward, so there would be the airflow to create lift.Or should I have just insulted you there? I'm not very clear of the rules of this game
4x4Tyke said:
Gargamel said:
r11co said:
4x4Tyke said:
otolith said:
The subsequent comment from him - "Bet ya a signed dollar it's true" - suggests otherwise.
... and what it that actually supposed to mean?Like 10 gets you a 100, or bet ya bottom dollar or any other similar phrase.
Only sub text I read is that it could actually cost him his company, which will also end up costing us all money no doubt in some form.
Vanden Saab said:
eccles said:
It's too late for that already. He should have apologised at the same time he took the tweets down
Yep you take your shiny new Tesla down to the golf club and the first thing someone says is "how long have you had the pedo car" RobDickinson said:
The Dangerous Elk said:
Tesla shares are crashing
By crashing you mean up 4 percent right? Monday shortly after open - 307
This morning open - 309
Now - 322
So a dip yesterday morning, when the story broke, which stayed for the day, then recovered back to Friday's level over today.
BTW, still a long way down from the highs of 370 a month ago and 380 last September, albeit up on the 250-300 range from March to May, which was down to the Model 3 production fiasco. That excluded, yesterday was fairly close to being the low point since April 2017 first saw them break the 300 barrier they first got near in 2014.
Jimboka said:
Not many companies survive when their leader is a liability .
And how many multi billion dollar companies have you founded?He's not a CEO he's the owner and founder, basically he'd have to brankwupt them or commit a fellony to be removed.
Currently the worst thing anyone can pin on any of his companies is that their products are so popular they are having problems producing enough.
Talksteer said:
He's not a CEO he's the owner and founder
Musk is CEO but not "owner and founder" of either SpaceX or Tesla.He was a co-founder of SpaceX with Tom Mueller, back in 2002 - but he's no more than a part-owner now. 3m new shares were sold in April this year. Based on the $169/share reported price and the reported $27.5bn valuation arising from it, that's about 163m shares issued. Nobody knows for sure how many Musk owns, because it's a private company, but Musk is reported to have owned just over half in 2016 - a lot have been issued since then, as funding's been needed hand-over-fist. One investment trust, Fidelity, are thought to own about a quarter of the stock, and Google used to own 10%.
He didn't found Tesla, but came onto the board when he brought a lot of funding a year after it was started by Martin Eberhard and Marc Tarpenning in 2003. It's now a publicly listed company, and Musk owns just over a quarter of the stock.
TooMany2cvs said:
Talksteer said:
He's not a CEO he's the owner and founder
Musk is CEO but not "owner and founder" of either SpaceX or Tesla.He was a co-founder of SpaceX with Tom Mueller, back in 2002 - but he's no more than a part-owner now. 3m new shares were sold in April this year. Based on the $169/share reported price and the reported $27.5bn valuation arising from it, that's about 163m shares issued. Nobody knows for sure how many Musk owns, because it's a private company, but Musk is reported to have owned just over half in 2016 - a lot have been issued since then, as funding's been needed hand-over-fist. One investment trust, Fidelity, are thought to own about a quarter of the stock, and Google used to own 10%.
He didn't found Tesla, but came onto the board when he brought a lot of funding a year after it was started by Martin Eberhard and Marc Tarpenning in 2003. It's now a publicly listed company, and Musk owns just over a quarter of the stock.
I saw an interview I’m sure where he said he would never ever go below 51% ownership.
essayer said:
As I said in the other thread, Monroe/Hopkins resulted in £30k compo + £300k fees, that was for being accused of graffitiing war memorials, to 10% of the follower base Musk has
If the guy sues he’s in for some cash
I presume he'll use those universal global law courts where all judgements are consistent.If the guy sues he’s in for some cash
The case you reference was brought in the UK by two UK public figures.
As a Twitter user based in the US were a case to be brought he it would have to be filled in the US.
Libel law in the US is substantially less plaintiff friendly than UK law due to "freedom of speech" traditions. (The constitutional freedom is not applicable here but the freedom of the press is the main driver).
If you fancy taking on a popular and wealthy US citizen for what will be a very small payout at the risk of being on the receiving end of a titanic legal bill go right ahead.
The payout would be limited because unlike the case referenced he isn't a public figure, if he claims he is a public figure then there is actually greater leeway in terms of what it is acceptable to say about them (designed to stop politicians suing each other).
p1stonhead said:
Majority shareholder is effectively ‘owner’.
Hardly, especially not of a business which is issuing stock hand-over-fist to raise money.p1stonhead said:
He is that of SpaceX I think still?
Nobody knows, unless and until they go public, or somebody says something to the press.p1stonhead said:
I saw an interview I’m sure where he said he would never ever go below 51% ownership.
He probably did. He was reportedly bloody close two years ago, and a LOT of money's been raised from issues since, so if he's going to have stayed above that, then he must have put a lot more of his own money in, as well as persuading other people to put theirs in.Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff