Traffic warden gets a kicking in Birmingham
Discussion
I’m not racist, but...
true thoughJust another day in Birminghamstan.
tannhauser said:
juan king said:
Dindoit said:
SmoothCriminal said:
Multiculturalism at it's finest.
Only took 2 posts. Well done.del mar said:
Housing Health education.
No first or second generation Migrant [aka British people born here] should have free access to these.
No first or second generation Migrant [aka British people born here] should have free access to these.
dudleybloke said:
Plenty of studies have proven links between violent tendencies and inbreeding.
https://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/society/racists-no-longer-bothering-to-say-im-not-a-racist-but-2014111392734I dont think it unreasonable to make immigrants pay or contribute to their costs.
Surely immigration and Economic migration has to be of some fiscal benefit to the host country ?
To make these people pay or contribute to their health and educational costs can only be a good think for the host country, we are not a charity.
I am not suggesting we refuse treatment to anybody, but if you cant contribute towards the cost of your healthcare and the education of your children, perhaps the UK is not the right place for you.
A sliding scale would work;
1st generation pay 100%.
2nd generation pay a lesser amount once an adult, their childhood costs should be met by their parents.
Right or wrong type is not colour driven, it is contribution / benefit driven.
A highly skilled Indian who makes a significant fiscal contribution is the right type.
A poorly skilled poorly education Australian who makes no fiscal contribution is the wrong type.
Surely immigration and Economic migration has to be of some fiscal benefit to the host country ?
To make these people pay or contribute to their health and educational costs can only be a good think for the host country, we are not a charity.
I am not suggesting we refuse treatment to anybody, but if you cant contribute towards the cost of your healthcare and the education of your children, perhaps the UK is not the right place for you.
A sliding scale would work;
1st generation pay 100%.
2nd generation pay a lesser amount once an adult, their childhood costs should be met by their parents.
Right or wrong type is not colour driven, it is contribution / benefit driven.
A highly skilled Indian who makes a significant fiscal contribution is the right type.
A poorly skilled poorly education Australian who makes no fiscal contribution is the wrong type.
Dindoit said:
del mar said:
Housing Health education.
No first or second generation Migrant [aka British people born here] should have free access to these.
Couple migrate to the UK, are not in a position to make a fiscal contribution.No first or second generation Migrant [aka British people born here] should have free access to these.
They are not entitled to free health / education they need to make a payment to access the system.
They have 4 kids, i dont think it unreasonable to push these costs back onto the migrant parents, we should not be paying for these.
Alpinestars said:
TooMany2cvs said:
Alpinestars said:
You’ve still not answered the question of how many generations in the U.K. before you consider people not to be immigrants?
Oh, he has. Second generation shouldn't be entitled to healthcare, education, housing...But, presumably, third generation would be.
So somebody whose grandparents arrived here as babes-in-arms would be OK...
By then you have distanced yourself from the original decision maker to move to the UK, for free healthcare and education. 2nd generation children should be paid for / contributed to by their parents.
del mar said:
A highly skilled Indian who makes a significant fiscal contribution is the right type.
A poorly skilled poorly education Australian who makes no fiscal contribution is the wrong type.
Since you’re an immigration expert that has obviously put a lot of thought into this you’d know neither would get a work visa unless they can demonstrate they can support themselves.A poorly skilled poorly education Australian who makes no fiscal contribution is the wrong type.
A penny to a pound says you’re the type of person who asks a taxi driver “No, where are you really from?”
Dindoit said:
del mar said:
A highly skilled Indian who makes a significant fiscal contribution is the right type.
A poorly skilled poorly education Australian who makes no fiscal contribution is the wrong type.
Since you’re an immigration expert that has obviously put a lot of thought into this you’d know neither would get a work visa unless they can demonstrate they can support themselves.A poorly skilled poorly education Australian who makes no fiscal contribution is the wrong type.
A penny to a pound says you’re the type of person who asks a taxi driver “No, where are you really from?”
However I don’t believe the rules lay out what supporting yourself actually means. No recourse to public funds except health and education.
Nor does supporting yourself mean you are making a fiscal contRibution.
You are assuming all taxi drivers are foreign ?
I would prefer to walk to the train station than be mugged by a black cab.
del mar said:
Dindoit said:
del mar said:
A highly skilled Indian who makes a significant fiscal contribution is the right type.
A poorly skilled poorly education Australian who makes no fiscal contribution is the wrong type.
Since you’re an immigration expert that has obviously put a lot of thought into this you’d know neither would get a work visa unless they can demonstrate they can support themselves.A poorly skilled poorly education Australian who makes no fiscal contribution is the wrong type.
A penny to a pound says you’re the type of person who asks a taxi driver “No, where are you really from?”
However I don’t believe the rules lay out what supporting yourself actually means. No recourse to public funds except health and education.
Nor does supporting yourself mean you are making a fiscal contRibution.
You are assuming all taxi drivers are foreign ?
I would prefer to walk to the train station than be mugged by a black cab.
That lays out exactly what immigrants are entitled to, including the immigration health surcharge for non-EEA nationals.
Or would you prefer details of the entitlements to benefits - https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/governmen... .
Dindoit said:
del mar said:
A highly skilled Indian who makes a significant fiscal contribution is the right type.
A poorly skilled poorly education Australian who makes no fiscal contribution is the wrong type.
Since you’re an immigration expert that has obviously put a lot of thought into this you’d know neither would get a work visa unless they can demonstrate they can support themselves.A poorly skilled poorly education Australian who makes no fiscal contribution is the wrong type.
A penny to a pound says you’re the type of person who asks a taxi driver “No, where are you really from?”
tannhauser said:
tannhauser said:
juan king said:
Dindoit said:
SmoothCriminal said:
Multiculturalism at it's finest.
Only took 2 posts. Well done.
del mar said:
I dont think it unreasonable to make immigrants pay or contribute to their costs.
Something like...?https://www.gov.uk/government/collections/nhs-visi...
del mar said:
Surely immigration and Economic migration has to be of some fiscal benefit to the host country ?
To make these people pay or contribute to their health and educational costs can only be a good think for the host country
It's called "tax".To make these people pay or contribute to their health and educational costs can only be a good think for the host country
del mar said:
I am not suggesting we refuse treatment to anybody, but if you cant contribute towards the cost of your healthcare and the education of your children, perhaps the UK is not the right place for you.
How is place of birth (or place of parents' birth) relevant to that?My ex-business partner was born in Germany. Would you call him a "first generation migrant", and extend your "second generation" strictures to his children?
Dindoit..... Why call me a racist for pointing out biological proof that inbreeding can cause higher levels of violence?
Does science not fit in with your blinkered views?
And I am willing to bet one weeks wages that the parents of the scum who attacked the traffic warden are first cousins.
Willing to take me up on the wager?
Does science not fit in with your blinkered views?
And I am willing to bet one weeks wages that the parents of the scum who attacked the traffic warden are first cousins.
Willing to take me up on the wager?
dudleybloke said:
Why call me a racist for pointing out biological proof that inbreeding can cause higher levels of violence?
...
And I am willing to bet one weeks wages that the parents of the scum who attacked the traffic warden are first cousins.
Willing to take me up on the wager?
Context is all....
And I am willing to bet one weeks wages that the parents of the scum who attacked the traffic warden are first cousins.
Willing to take me up on the wager?
Dindoit said:
You crack on mate. The word “Birminghamstan” marks you out nicely but I’d rather you said it out in the open tbh rather than hide behind the normal dogwhistles we get here.
I really couldn't care what you think. Tolerance and virtue-signalling handwringing is what's got us here. I'm sick of it, and I worry what the future has in store. There's no place for scum like that in this country - and yes, we've got enough of our homegrown scum.dudleybloke said:
Dindoit..... Why call me a racist for pointing out biological proof that inbreeding can cause higher levels of violence?
Does science not fit in with your blinkered views?
And I am willing to bet one weeks wages that the parents of the scum who attacked the traffic warden are first cousins.
Willing to take me up on the wager?
Well that crooked nose is a bit of a giveaway. Inbred animals.Does science not fit in with your blinkered views?
And I am willing to bet one weeks wages that the parents of the scum who attacked the traffic warden are first cousins.
Willing to take me up on the wager?
tannhauser said:
I'm sick of it, and I worry what the future has in store. There's no place for scum like that in this country - and yes, we've got enough of our homegrown scum.
So the issue is "scum", rather than the origins of people who may or may not be scum.Perhaps vigilante deathsquads roaming the streets, instant execution of all those perceived to be acting like scum?
TooMany2cvs said:
tannhauser said:
I'm sick of it, and I worry what the future has in store. There's no place for scum like that in this country - and yes, we've got enough of our homegrown scum.
So the issue is "scum", rather than the origins of people who may or may not be scum.Perhaps vigilante deathsquads roaming the streets, instant execution of all those perceived to be acting like scum?
You joke about vigilantism - I can see this becoming a very real prospect, as the authorities haven't got a hope in hell of getting things under control.
del mar said:
3rd is not unreasonable.
By then you have distanced yourself from the original decision maker to move to the UK, for free healthcare and education. 2nd generation children should be paid for / contributed to by their parents.
In which case your comment about immigrant toe rags is probably not correct. Can we call them British toe rags?By then you have distanced yourself from the original decision maker to move to the UK, for free healthcare and education. 2nd generation children should be paid for / contributed to by their parents.
You should also make a mental note of your rule when starting or replying about immigrants on other threads.
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