Caroline Flack
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She sounds like a terribly messed up individual, seemingly living a life that revolved around things that mean very little. Like most of these fake fame hounds.
I often think of natural selection at times like this, if that makes me a bad person, fair enough, but when you have all that, all those chances and you squander them, sorry but Darwin was and still is spot on, even in this totally different life.
I often think of natural selection at times like this, if that makes me a bad person, fair enough, but when you have all that, all those chances and you squander them, sorry but Darwin was and still is spot on, even in this totally different life.
ELUSIVEJIM said:
Yet at the time the court heard that he said in a 999 call that she 'tried to kill me, mate'.
Mr Burton was said to have been 'almost begging the operator to send help' with his face 'covered in blood', while Flack allegedly had two cuts to her wrist.
After being taken into custody Flack allegedly flipped over a table and had to be restrained on the ground by police.
She allegedly said 'I did it' and claimed under caution that she would kill herself, also admitting she 'whacked him round the head', the court was told.
So a history of threatening self harm and violence, I can see why the poor guy tried to play everything down as he didn't want her to do something rash.
IanH755 said:
ELUSIVEJIM said:
Yet at the time the court heard that he said in a 999 call that she 'tried to kill me, mate'.Mr Burton was said to have been 'almost begging the operator to send help' with his face 'covered in blood', while Flack allegedly had two cuts to her wrist.
After being taken into custody Flack allegedly flipped over a table and had to be restrained on the ground by police.
She allegedly said 'I did it' and claimed under caution that she would kill herself, also admitting she 'whacked him round the head', the court was told.
So a history of threatening self harm and violence, I can see why the poor guy tried to play everything down as he didn't want her to do something rash.
Clearly that is not going to happen and we might never know.
M3333 said:
Cold said:
Yep, it wasn't the media who smacked her sleeping boyfriend over the head with a lamp.
It must be so nice to be such a perfect person from your moral keyboard perch. Were you a fly on the wall for the full facts?As for my moral keyboard perch, it is one without any blood of previous partners on it nor are there any blood spattered table lamps nearby.
For this story that's a reasonably lofty position. For most other occasions it's not really of any note.
Are the white knights springing to her defence simply because she was pretty and seemed nice on the telly?
Can't say I'm surprised considered the way she walked out of court the other week, her face seemed to suggest she felt under siege from the tabloids.
Media reports suggest she was on strong anti-depressants. Doesn't surprise me when GP's dish Duloxetine like skittles.
One of the top side effects of Duloxetine is written at the top of the leaflet 'a sudden urge to commit suicide'
The CPS decided it was in the public interest to continue to trial, whether they were using her as an example because of her high profile remains to be seen.
They might have saw an element of coercive control in her relationship. Her boyfriend seemed very defensive, perhaps they thought he needed a weather man to tell him when it was pissing down.
Media reports suggest she was on strong anti-depressants. Doesn't surprise me when GP's dish Duloxetine like skittles.
One of the top side effects of Duloxetine is written at the top of the leaflet 'a sudden urge to commit suicide'
The CPS decided it was in the public interest to continue to trial, whether they were using her as an example because of her high profile remains to be seen.
They might have saw an element of coercive control in her relationship. Her boyfriend seemed very defensive, perhaps they thought he needed a weather man to tell him when it was pissing down.
Edited by EarlofDrift on Sunday 16th February 00:14
BigMon said:
What a tragic waste of a life.
I'd imagine if you have any mental health issues at all being in the public eye must be horrendous. Her poor family.
Sadly, many people who crave fame are already mentally unstable or at least have massive insecurities in the first place.I'd imagine if you have any mental health issues at all being in the public eye must be horrendous. Her poor family.
It's very sad but she's not the first casualty of finding that the seeking of fame brings massive downsides too.
Cold said:
What are you on about? I wonder if the police and CPS were a fly on the wall for the full facts? They seemed quite happy to bring the case to court despite the main witness retracting his previous statement. The legal process also made a condition of Flack's bail to have zero contact with her boyfriend - as is the case for many domestic violence incidents.
As for my moral keyboard perch, it is one without any blood of previous partners on it nor are there any blood spattered table lamps nearby.
For this story that's a reasonably lofty position. For most other occasions it's not really of any note.
Are the white knights springing to her defence simply because she was pretty and seemed nice on the telly?
If you can find a single “white knight” defending her alleged actions you’ll be doing better than everyone else on this thread. As for my moral keyboard perch, it is one without any blood of previous partners on it nor are there any blood spattered table lamps nearby.
For this story that's a reasonably lofty position. For most other occasions it's not really of any note.
Are the white knights springing to her defence simply because she was pretty and seemed nice on the telly?
Let us know how you get on.
Brooking10 said:
Cold said:
What are you on about? I wonder if the police and CPS were a fly on the wall for the full facts? They seemed quite happy to bring the case to court despite the main witness retracting his previous statement. The legal process also made a condition of Flack's bail to have zero contact with her boyfriend - as is the case for many domestic violence incidents.
As for my moral keyboard perch, it is one without any blood of previous partners on it nor are there any blood spattered table lamps nearby.
For this story that's a reasonably lofty position. For most other occasions it's not really of any note.
Are the white knights springing to her defence simply because she was pretty and seemed nice on the telly?
If you can find a single “white knight” defending her alleged actions you’ll be doing better than everyone else on this thread. As for my moral keyboard perch, it is one without any blood of previous partners on it nor are there any blood spattered table lamps nearby.
For this story that's a reasonably lofty position. For most other occasions it's not really of any note.
Are the white knights springing to her defence simply because she was pretty and seemed nice on the telly?
Let us know how you get on.
ked up state of affairs and the waste of a young life. Brooking10 said:
If you can find a single “white knight” defending her alleged actions you’ll be doing better than everyone else on this thread.
Let us know how you get on.
Defending her actions? Some are suggesting that nothing happened due to the notion of innocent until proven guilty. Let us know how you get on.
But as a reminder:
Katie Weiss, prosecuting, told that court that Burton had “received significant injury to his head”.
“He said he had been asleep and was hit over the head by Caroline with a lamp, causing a visible cut to his head”
Weiss said police officers found the couple covered in blood when they arrived at the scene.
Cold said:
Defending her actions? Some are suggesting that nothing happened due to the notion of innocent until proven guilty.
But as a reminder:
Katie Weiss, prosecuting, told that court that Burton had “received significant injury to his head”.
“He said he had been asleep and was hit over the head by Caroline with a lamp, causing a visible cut to his head”
Weiss said police officers found the couple covered in blood when they arrived at the scene.
Are they ?But as a reminder:
Katie Weiss, prosecuting, told that court that Burton had “received significant injury to his head”.
“He said he had been asleep and was hit over the head by Caroline with a lamp, causing a visible cut to his head”
Weiss said police officers found the couple covered in blood when they arrived at the scene.
I think that’s all a figment of your imagination and a s I say not a single person here is, in your words not mine, “springing to her defence”
Edited by anonymous-user on Sunday 16th February 01:14
ZX10R NIN said:
bhstewie said:
hstewie said: Awful but honestly not a surprise.
There are times you see and read about people in the media where your every instinct is that the coverage really isn't doing them any favours.
The media don't learn sadly.
The Media didn't tell her to abuse & assault her boyfriend, also up until her abusing her boyfriend she got good coverage from the media.There are times you see and read about people in the media where your every instinct is that the coverage really isn't doing them any favours.
The media don't learn sadly.
It's sad she took her own life but that's not down to the media.
I believe this is the third suicide involving someone closely associated with Love Island specifically and no doubt there will be questions around the pressures that kind of "lifestyle" brings.
People will say "well she chose that lifestyle" but even when it's "good coverage" do you think the media really care about the pressure that such coverage imposes on people?
I think you have to look at the bigger and wider picture a little and you don't have to offer her a free pass for the alleged assault to question whether if someone already has mental health issues the way the media treats them might just play a part in this?
Very sad as is every loss of life.
However those blaming the media are shameful. The media only print crap that makes people click on it. Then they tell the advertiser x number of people have clicked and seen your advert. Pay me some money.
The people who kept clicking on those articles lapping up the gory details and juicy rumours are why they kept doing more and more and getting more outrageous.
Anyone saying the media was disgraceful with all of their coverage, how do you know what the coverage was? Because YOU clicked on it and fed the media.
As a society we all have to take some blame for this. This unfortunate girl for being (allegedly) a repeat abuser, the media for printing the gossip, US for reading it and encouraging them so they print more to sell more papers.
It’s back to the Diana nonsense. I’m disgusted the paparazzi hounded her for these photos, of look a more detailed crash photo, buy that paper.
However those blaming the media are shameful. The media only print crap that makes people click on it. Then they tell the advertiser x number of people have clicked and seen your advert. Pay me some money.
The people who kept clicking on those articles lapping up the gory details and juicy rumours are why they kept doing more and more and getting more outrageous.
Anyone saying the media was disgraceful with all of their coverage, how do you know what the coverage was? Because YOU clicked on it and fed the media.
As a society we all have to take some blame for this. This unfortunate girl for being (allegedly) a repeat abuser, the media for printing the gossip, US for reading it and encouraging them so they print more to sell more papers.
It’s back to the Diana nonsense. I’m disgusted the paparazzi hounded her for these photos, of look a more detailed crash photo, buy that paper.
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