Boris Johnson- Prime Minister (Vol. 4)
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jakesmith said:
I can confirm that it doesn’t take me three and a half hours to wash in the morning so I am still better off time wise WFH. Suggest you look at some instructional videos on YouTube as it seems to take you rather a long time based on what you say.
I can confirm that my job does require me to work in the afternoon which I believe is fairly normal.
I can confirm that many people and likely a majority, would happily be free of the expense, hassle and lost time of commuting to a work place despite you finding it ‘energising’.
I can confirm that buying food for consumption at home is cheaper than most work canteens and any competent person can knock up a tasty meal in almost no time. Please buy a basic ‘quick meal’ type cookery book if you are so unimaginative that it hasn’t occurred to you to make a little extra of your evening / weekend meal for consumption in the week, or perhaps spend 5-10 minutes making something tasty and quick like an omelette or toasty or mini pizza or a million other such things.
Hilarious though that you cite the time saving aspect of a staff canteen as a benefit of going into an office, that requires an often lengthy journey to be undertaken.
The fact that you're so hostile leads me to believe you're the issue not the colleagues. People enjoy their cycle commute/run commute or even a relaxing enough drive for some.I can confirm that my job does require me to work in the afternoon which I believe is fairly normal.
I can confirm that many people and likely a majority, would happily be free of the expense, hassle and lost time of commuting to a work place despite you finding it ‘energising’.
I can confirm that buying food for consumption at home is cheaper than most work canteens and any competent person can knock up a tasty meal in almost no time. Please buy a basic ‘quick meal’ type cookery book if you are so unimaginative that it hasn’t occurred to you to make a little extra of your evening / weekend meal for consumption in the week, or perhaps spend 5-10 minutes making something tasty and quick like an omelette or toasty or mini pizza or a million other such things.
Hilarious though that you cite the time saving aspect of a staff canteen as a benefit of going into an office, that requires an often lengthy journey to be undertaken.
fastraxx said:
The fact that you're so hostile leads me to believe you're the issue not the colleagues. People enjoy their cycle commute/run commute or even a relaxing enough drive for some.
I'm sure. I bet they've all been doing it in the lockdown just to turn round and go straight back from the closed office they enjoy it so much.768 said:
I'm sure. I bet they've all been doing it in the lockdown just to turn round and go straight back from the closed office they enjoy it so much.
No, most of them I know are able to go a bit further in the morning for a longer / run or cycle. Seems like this concept of exercise is unthinkable to you.RonaldMcDonaldAteMyCat said:
jakesmith said:
You say that as though not going to the office, sitting in traffic, spending money on food and fuel, sitting in more traffic, being knackered when you get in, and having to spend the day with a load of people who you don’t like, is in some way a hardship. Literally couldn’t care less. I find it odd they are going in but am I going to get riled up about hypocrisy? Hell no. Just glad I can set my alarm for 08:50 now and not 06:30.
It is supposedly a vital health matter that we maintain a 2m distance from one another. This has been hammered into us from an early stage.We have also been told, if at all possible we should work from home. This advice does not appear to have changed.
Parliament has been working from home and has used technology to enable votes.
The government are now telling MPs they shouldn't be working from home. We saw yesterday farcical scenes in the HoC where the voting was impractical, took ages and didn't achieve the social distancing required. Considering the prominence and importance given to the distancing and work from home messages, and the fact that the government are again faced with obvious accusations of double standards, what is the logic behind the change?
fastraxx said:
768 said:
I'm sure. I bet they've all been doing it in the lockdown just to turn round and go straight back from the closed office they enjoy it so much.
No, most of them I know are able to go a bit further in the morning for a longer / run or cycle. Seems like this concept of exercise is unthinkable to you.I prefer getting up at 08:50 and going downstairs to my office in shorts and a tshirt, to leaving the house at 06:20, sitting in horrendous traffic for 90 minutes on the M25 and M4, and the same again later that day, which costs me £30 a day, all to sit in a room with a load of people some of whom I would not chose to spend time with given the choice, doing work that can be done from anywhere in the world with 3G or wifi.
I would guess that most people would agree with me and not you, and would happily cut out the tedium and expense of the commute if they could. People often have to live much further away from their work than they would like to due to family, friends and property prices.
Morning rush hour commute a relaxing drive you say? OK sure whatever. I'm sure a very tiny proportion of the UK's workforce live in such circumstances that they have a short pleasant journey to work on foot or on bike to an area with an array of interesting and quality food outlets as you describe rather than a miserable crawl along an array of heavily congested roads to a business park with crap facilities somewhere, but you should consider yourself fortunate enough to fit into that demographic, rather than the miserable looking, tired ashen faced commuters that I see on the UK's rail and road networks every day who I would suggest make up a far greater proportion of the workforce.
Edited by jakesmith on Wednesday 3rd June 10:37
fastraxx said:
768 said:
I'm sure. I bet they've all been doing it in the lockdown just to turn round and go straight back from the closed office they enjoy it so much.
No, most of them I know are able to go a bit further in the morning for a longer / run or cycle. Seems like this concept of exercise is unthinkable to you.Well this is odd.
Exclusive: Boris Johnson takes back control of coronavirus crisis with Downing Street shake-up
Who's been in control of things until now?
Exclusive: Boris Johnson takes back control of coronavirus crisis with Downing Street shake-up
Who's been in control of things until now?
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hstewie said:
hstewie said: Well this is odd.
Exclusive: Boris Johnson takes back control of coronavirus crisis with Downing Street shake-up
Who's been in control of things until now?
Big Dom C.Exclusive: Boris Johnson takes back control of coronavirus crisis with Downing Street shake-up
Who's been in control of things until now?
bhstewie said:
hstewie said: Well this is odd.
Exclusive: Boris Johnson takes back control of coronavirus crisis with Downing Street shake-up
Who's been in control of things until now?
Indeed. I found this a curious comment from that article (which I can’t read all of because I’m not paying for that sExclusive: Boris Johnson takes back control of coronavirus crisis with Downing Street shake-up
Who's been in control of things until now?
te)...Telegraph said:
Tory MPs said the changes could weaken the influence of chief adviser Dominic Cummings – who was heavily criticised for a 260-mile trip during lockdown – and allow Mr Johnson to tighten his grip on the fight
So Johnson needs to create 2 committees to reduce the influence of his own SPAD in order to “take back control” for himself?What a load of claptrap.
fastraxx said:
bhstewie said:
hstewie said: Well this is odd.
Exclusive: Boris Johnson takes back control of coronavirus crisis with Downing Street shake-up
Who's been in control of things until now?
Big Dom C.Exclusive: Boris Johnson takes back control of coronavirus crisis with Downing Street shake-up
Who's been in control of things until now?
bhstewie said:
hstewie said: Well this is odd.
Exclusive: Boris Johnson takes back control of coronavirus crisis with Downing Street shake-up
Who's been in control of things until now?
You wonder if this is the beginning of 'shifting the blame' away from Boris? If he wasn't in charge he couldn't have been responsible for the worst death toll in Europe?Exclusive: Boris Johnson takes back control of coronavirus crisis with Downing Street shake-up
Who's been in control of things until now?
jakesmith said:
You're making the mistake of assuming that the tiny bubble you are exposed to is in some way representative of the greater population. I, of course, am the same to a point.
I prefer getting up at 08:50 and going downstairs to my office in shorts and a tshirt, to leaving the house at 06:20, sitting in horrendous traffic for 90 minutes on the M25 and M4, and the same again later that day, which costs me £30 a day, all to sit in a room with a load of people some of whom I would not chose to spend time with given the choice, doing work that can be done from anywhere in the world with 3G or wifi.
I would guess that most people would agree with me and not you, and would happily cut out the tedium and expense of the commute if they could. People often have to live much further away from their work than they would like to due to family, friends and property prices.
Morning rush hour commute a relaxing drive you say? OK sure whatever. I'm sure a very tiny proportion of the UK's workforce live in such circumstances that they have a short pleasant journey to work on foot or on bike to an area with an array of interesting and quality food outlets as you describe rather than a miserable crawl along an array of heavily congested roads to a business park with crap facilities somewhere, but you should consider yourself fortunate enough to fit into that demographic, rather than the miserable looking, tired ashen faced commuters that I see on the UK's rail and road networks every day who I would suggest make up a far greater proportion of the workforce.
Fair enough - I think a balance is key. Appreciate some people have a horrendous commute. It might be that most people would agree with you but that's the people that are unhappy with their work. I think encouraging 1/2 days at home would be good.I prefer getting up at 08:50 and going downstairs to my office in shorts and a tshirt, to leaving the house at 06:20, sitting in horrendous traffic for 90 minutes on the M25 and M4, and the same again later that day, which costs me £30 a day, all to sit in a room with a load of people some of whom I would not chose to spend time with given the choice, doing work that can be done from anywhere in the world with 3G or wifi.
I would guess that most people would agree with me and not you, and would happily cut out the tedium and expense of the commute if they could. People often have to live much further away from their work than they would like to due to family, friends and property prices.
Morning rush hour commute a relaxing drive you say? OK sure whatever. I'm sure a very tiny proportion of the UK's workforce live in such circumstances that they have a short pleasant journey to work on foot or on bike to an area with an array of interesting and quality food outlets as you describe rather than a miserable crawl along an array of heavily congested roads to a business park with crap facilities somewhere, but you should consider yourself fortunate enough to fit into that demographic, rather than the miserable looking, tired ashen faced commuters that I see on the UK's rail and road networks every day who I would suggest make up a far greater proportion of the workforce.
Edited by jakesmith on Wednesday 3rd June 10:37
I did not say rush hour is relaxing but many I know start before 'rush hour' nor is it something that it exists for many. Appreciate I may be in a 'bubble' slightly and sorry you don't have colleagues who you would spend any time with, usually well functioning teams are like minded professionally and personally.
s2art said:
fastraxx said:
bhstewie said:
hstewie said: Well this is odd.
Exclusive: Boris Johnson takes back control of coronavirus crisis with Downing Street shake-up
Who's been in control of things until now?
Big Dom C.Exclusive: Boris Johnson takes back control of coronavirus crisis with Downing Street shake-up
Who's been in control of things until now?
s2art said:
fastraxx said:
bhstewie said:
hstewie said: Well this is odd.
Exclusive: Boris Johnson takes back control of coronavirus crisis with Downing Street shake-up
Who's been in control of things until now?
Big Dom C.Exclusive: Boris Johnson takes back control of coronavirus crisis with Downing Street shake-up
Who's been in control of things until now?
All along it has been, “driven by medical guidance”
Now we are the worst in Europe, close to the worst in the world, they will try to shift the blame
Thankfully the public are not that stupid to believe the clowns in charge
Helicopter123 said:
bhstewie said:
hstewie said: Well this is odd.
Exclusive: Boris Johnson takes back control of coronavirus crisis with Downing Street shake-up
Who's been in control of things until now?
You wonder if this is the beginning of 'shifting the blame' away from Boris? If he wasn't in charge he couldn't have been responsible for the worst death toll in Europe?Exclusive: Boris Johnson takes back control of coronavirus crisis with Downing Street shake-up
Who's been in control of things until now?
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/co...
bhstewie said:
hstewie said: Well this is odd.
Exclusive: Boris Johnson takes back control of coronavirus crisis with Downing Street shake-up
Who's been in control of things until now?
Exactly.Exclusive: Boris Johnson takes back control of coronavirus crisis with Downing Street shake-up
Who's been in control of things until now?
We seem to be doing the whole pandemic management in reverse.
Quarantines in June
Testing and tracing in June
Our leader “Taking
Maybe in July we’ll decide to protect care homes and recommend we wear masks and update the pandemic plans or even get ones for different types of pandemics.
Someone better close the gate, the horse is missing.
don'tbesilly said:
Helicopter123 said:
bhstewie said:
hstewie said: Well this is odd.
Exclusive: Boris Johnson takes back control of coronavirus crisis with Downing Street shake-up
Who's been in control of things until now?
You wonder if this is the beginning of 'shifting the blame' away from Boris? If he wasn't in charge he couldn't have been responsible for the worst death toll in Europe?Exclusive: Boris Johnson takes back control of coronavirus crisis with Downing Street shake-up
Who's been in control of things until now?
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/co...
s2art said:
fastraxx said:
bhstewie said:
hstewie said: Well this is odd.
Exclusive: Boris Johnson takes back control of coronavirus crisis with Downing Street shake-up
Who's been in control of things until now?
Big Dom C.Exclusive: Boris Johnson takes back control of coronavirus crisis with Downing Street shake-up
Who's been in control of things until now?
https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-health-coronavir...
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