Marcus Rashford - School Meals Vouchers Campaign
Discussion
mx5nut said:
snuffy said:
V88Dicky said:
They weren't much fun on a boiling hot June day in the late 70's though! 
I can recall they when they'd been out in the school playground and covered in snow - lovely.And also when sat in the playground with the sun beating down on them - more like a small bottle of warm sick.
Glass bottles a swell.
Jinx said:
It wasn't the government's responsibility to feed kids during the summer holidays. This idea was recently mooted and the response was a "no plans to extend the scheme into the summer holidays" - as an alternative additional funding was offered to local authorities to help the most needy. This has now been extended to cover the original voucher scheme brought in to cover the "free school meals" no longer being provided during the pandemic.
No one is stopping kids getting a decent meal. Getting a decent meal is why I learned to cook (single parent, ex free school voucher kid).
No doubt the additional funding to local authorities had more of a chance of making sure the children at risk are actually fed.No one is stopping kids getting a decent meal. Getting a decent meal is why I learned to cook (single parent, ex free school voucher kid).
To be clear the issue is with a minority of parents on benefits. Most manage to make sure that their children are adequately fed and it actually isn't that difficult to do so on a cost effective budget. Things like frozen chicken pieces, bags of rice etc are low cost and can provide many meals.
There are a minority who live chaotic lives and tend to spend the money they receive on anything other than the children it is supposed to benefit. If the element of the benefit that is due to the landlord isn't sent straight to them they tend to spend that as well.
You have a campaign to say give everyone a voucher "otherwise kids will starve". The government then decides it cannot be bothered opposing for "only" £120m. Whether those children most vulnerable to going hungry in the holidays actually benefit is another matter entirely.
WJNB said:
Like many others he goes on & on about his mother being a sole parent of 5 kids but no mention of the father(s). Interesting eh?
The point is you don't just write the kids off because of poor choices by the parents. After all, they're the new generation, so surely equipping them properly is the best thing to do if you want to try and break the cycle. mx5nut said:
snuffy said:
V88Dicky said:
They weren't much fun on a boiling hot June day in the late 70's though!
I can recall they when they'd been out in the school playground and covered in snow - lovely.And also when sat in the playground with the sun beating down on them - more like a small bottle of warm sick.
Most of us are agreed that it’s unacceptable that some kids would have perhaps gone hungry during the Summer term holiday That particular problem is now resolved at least as much as can be it will be down to parents and carers now.
For me it has to be said whilst we have this problem of hardship on the other side of the spectrum we have sports stars, pop stars, CEO, bankers and all manner of people being paid an absolutely obscene amount of money each year. The Tories have recognised that the imbalance needs addressing, my guess is that nothing will be actioned any time soon. I’m not sure that anything can be done tbh, it is down to those fortunate individuals perhaps how they wish o use their money, as no doubt many are aware.
For me it has to be said whilst we have this problem of hardship on the other side of the spectrum we have sports stars, pop stars, CEO, bankers and all manner of people being paid an absolutely obscene amount of money each year. The Tories have recognised that the imbalance needs addressing, my guess is that nothing will be actioned any time soon. I’m not sure that anything can be done tbh, it is down to those fortunate individuals perhaps how they wish o use their money, as no doubt many are aware.
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hstewie said:
hstewie said: I like this lad
Cabinet minister clashes with Marcus Rashford after she criticises his poverty claim on Twitter
Agreed, an amazingly stupid comment from the Minister. Cabinet minister clashes with Marcus Rashford after she criticises his poverty claim on Twitter
bhstewie said:
hstewie said: I like this lad
Cabinet minister clashes with Marcus Rashford after she criticises his poverty claim on Twitter
That tweet in reply from Thérèse Coffey was a shocker.Cabinet minister clashes with Marcus Rashford after she criticises his poverty claim on Twitter
Like many things it reminds me of the Thick of it
"“Who was it that did your media training, Myra Hindley?"
JagLover said:
Digga said:
Does not surprise. The political class are, in differing ways, all insulated from reality. Tories seem to have the same blindspots for some reason...
This is in no sense new.Teachers have been talking for years about children returning from holidays hungry as they haven't been fed properly over the break. The summer voucher scheme will no doubt be here for good now and will represent a permanent £120million increase in the welfare budget.
If that does indeed prevent children being half starved over summer great. If however the parents trade the vouchers for the usual things then it wont have accomplished much. Past schemes to try and tackle this have been such actions as holiday clubs with food provided. That at least ensures that the children actually get fed as a result.
How about
"This furlough scheme is good if it helps preserve jobs, but if firms use it while keeping people working, or otherwise subvert the spirit of the scheme, then it won't have accomplished much"
Extended school opening, Holiday clubs etc.. would also be good ideas. let's hope local authoriies have the cash for that.
mike74 said:
His PR team have played a blinder with this one.
Another victory for the feckless breeders.
Remarkable how people struggle to understand the difference between 'vulnerable' and 'irresponsible'
Remarkable how people struggle to understand that the Children are vulnerable and in not anyway responsible for being vulnerable.Another victory for the feckless breeders.
Remarkable how people struggle to understand the difference between 'vulnerable' and 'irresponsible'
But if sneering gets you through the day crack on eh.
edh said:
Couldn't resist the "Feckless scrougers" angle?
Extended school opening, Holiday clubs etc.. would also be good ideas. let's hope local authoriies have the cash for that.
Holiday clubs seems to be a common way of tackling this issue from what I have read.Extended school opening, Holiday clubs etc.. would also be good ideas. let's hope local authoriies have the cash for that.
A minority of children of parents on benefits do indeed go hungry in breaks from school due to lack of FSM. This has been an issue known about for years.
Rather than automatically assume it is due to lack of money provided, given that it is a minority, it is worth questioning what else the parents in question spend their money on.
Spending an extra £120m might give a warm glow but if it doesn't reach the children actually in need it accomplishes little. In contrast other schemes are specifically targeted at making sure the children are fed.
mike74 said:
His PR team have played a blinder with this one.
Another victory for the feckless breeders.
Remarkable how people struggle to understand the difference between 'vulnerable' and 'irresponsible'
Let's assume that's true for a moment.Another victory for the feckless breeders.
Remarkable how people struggle to understand the difference between 'vulnerable' and 'irresponsible'
Are the children irresponsible or are the children vulnerable.
How does letting them go hungry help?
bhstewie said:
hstewie said: How does letting children go hungry help?
Is that the alternative? I haven't paid much attention to this admittedly, but I thought there was some suggestion from the government that they were spending many millions on other ways of achieving the same aim.What's the scale of the problem here, I saw a tweet from him suggesting 200k kids a day aren't eating at all, which seems shocking?
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