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hstewie said:
hstewie said: Two years and eight months.
Owen Jones: Man jailed for attacking journalist
Not bad for an attack that many thought didn't happen.
But he was asking for it! Owen Jones: Man jailed for attacking journalist
Not bad for an attack that many thought didn't happen.
bhstewie said:
hstewie said: Two years and eight months.
Owen Jones: Man jailed for attacking journalist
Not bad for an attack that many thought didn't happen.
Is that a fair sentence for the crime ?Owen Jones: Man jailed for attacking journalist
Not bad for an attack that many thought didn't happen.
Reading the article it wasn’t the mans fault it was the fault of the far right and the governments failure to do anything about it.
coolg said:
bhstewie said:
hstewie said: Two years and eight months.
Owen Jones: Man jailed for attacking journalist
Not bad for an attack that many thought didn't happen.
Is that a fair sentence for the crime ?Owen Jones: Man jailed for attacking journalist
Not bad for an attack that many thought didn't happen.
Reading the article it wasn’t the mans fault it was the fault of the far right and the governments failure to do anything about it.
The jailed guy, Healy, has a string of convictions for football-related violence. I bet that was taken into account.
If not, how come his two accomplices had suspended sentences?
Anyway, I don't care. I wouldn't frequent a pub where far right nutters go. Makes me wonder why Owen would?
dandarez said:
I have no idea if it was fair or not. I do though suspect the sentence was not just to do with the so-called attack.
The jailed guy, Healy, has a string of convictions for football-related violence. I bet that was taken into account.
If not, how come his two accomplices had suspended sentences?
Anyway, I don't care. I wouldn't frequent a pub where far right nutters go. Makes me wonder why Owen would?
Of course it was taken into account; that’s how the law works. The jailed guy, Healy, has a string of convictions for football-related violence. I bet that was taken into account.
If not, how come his two accomplices had suspended sentences?
Anyway, I don't care. I wouldn't frequent a pub where far right nutters go. Makes me wonder why Owen would?
The tariff for the crime would be adjusted up or down for aggravating or mitigating factors.
And the judge makes it abundantly clear that the attack was not, as you put it, a “so-called” attack.
Love your victim-blaming “makes me wonder” musing at the end; you clearly don’t believe that the previously-convicted thug should have been convicted in this case. I wonder why this is?
Edited by longblackcoat on Friday 24th July 20:34
longblackcoat said:
dandarez said:
I have no idea if it was fair or not. I do though suspect the sentence was not just to do with the so-called attack.
The jailed guy, Healy, has a string of convictions for football-related violence. I bet that was taken into account.
If not, how come his two accomplices had suspended sentences?
Anyway, I don't care. I wouldn't frequent a pub where far right nutters go. Makes me wonder why Owen would?
Of course it was taken into account; that’s how the law works. The jailed guy, Healy, has a string of convictions for football-related violence. I bet that was taken into account.
If not, how come his two accomplices had suspended sentences?
Anyway, I don't care. I wouldn't frequent a pub where far right nutters go. Makes me wonder why Owen would?
The tariff for the crime would be adjusted up or down for aggravating or mitigating factors.
And the judge makes it abundantly clear that the attack was not, as you put it, a “so-called” attack.
Love your victim-blaming “makes me wonder” musing at the end; you clearly don’t believe that the previously-convicted thug should have been convicted in this case. I wonder why this is?
Edited by longblackcoat on Friday 24th July 20:34
Don't wonder why? There is nothing sinister. No more sinister than someone who wears a long black coat or robes. So, so sorry to disappoint you.
It's simple. I just don't like Jones' boy, just like some don't like Farage. That simple. It really is. Got it yet? Probably not.
Any reason why you edited your post? I try and ensure mine are correct before submitting.
Hello, hello, I see your follow up friend PeteinSQ whose post was below yours AND WAY BELOW THE BELT seems to have deleted it.
He must have had second thoughts as to how vile it was. Certainly enough to warrant reporting.
What a shame for him that I had already copied it to reply to.
IMO it is that far below the belt I should have reported it, but I'm not like that. I've been on here 20 years, unlike some newbies and never reported anyone. I 'wonder' how you view it Mr Long Black Coat?
I am reposting it on here for one reason. Just in case some other users might just have read it before its deletion and get a VERY WRONG impression about my good self.
PeteinSQ said:
dandarez said:
I have no idea if it was fair or not. I do though suspect the sentence was not just to do with the so-called attack.
The jailed guy, Healy, has a string of convictions for football-related violence. I bet that was taken into account.
If not, how come his two accomplices had suspended sentences?
Anyway, I don't care. I wouldn't frequent a pub where far right nutters go. Makes me wonder why Owen would?
Are you trying to imply that a.) this wasn't an attack "so called" and that b) he provoked it by going into some sort of Combat 18 drinking den?The jailed guy, Healy, has a string of convictions for football-related violence. I bet that was taken into account.
If not, how come his two accomplices had suspended sentences?
Anyway, I don't care. I wouldn't frequent a pub where far right nutters go. Makes me wonder why Owen would?
Point a has already been disproven. The attack happened and someone has been sent to prison.
Point b is also nonsense, I suggest you go and have a read of its reviews.
You're clearly some sort of fascist sympathiser. If the police raided your house I wonder if they'd also find SS totenkopf memorabilia or would it just be pictures of kids?
Pure conjecture you understand and this is only a so called bit of trolling so please don't get upset.
of course it is (your last line). I rarely get upset if you read my posts. Getting upset is not good for you. In fact, as for your second but last and dreadful way below the belt cowardly line, most posters would report you.
Don't worry, I won't, others will see you for what you are.
That scenario you paint, I can tell you what they'd find, a car book publisher (like it says on my profile, yours doesn't tell me much) - files and files full of pics, sadly not what your dim mentality wishes to conjure up, but of inanimate objects ie cars - you get the gist? Probably not.
To end, as I replied to the Long Black thing above, I just don't like Owen Jones (he's a smug Grauniad git, end of).
That's. All. There. Is. To. It.
Like others don't like Nigel Farage. It's that simple, nothing else. Understand now? Again, probably not.
I don’t like Jones either and didn’t lose any sleep over him being attacked. I can understand him upsetting many with his extreme views and ideology and feel that it was always coming to him.
Neither do I care about the extremist who attached him though it’ll be interesting to compare his sentence with the ones that will be meted out to the the 3 murderers of PC Harper.
Neither do I care about the extremist who attached him though it’ll be interesting to compare his sentence with the ones that will be meted out to the the 3 murderers of PC Harper.
REALIST123 said:
I don’t like Jones either and didn’t lose any sleep over him being attacked. I can understand him upsetting many with his extreme views and ideology and feel that it was always coming to him.
Neither do I care about the extremist who attached him though it’ll be interesting to compare his sentence with the ones that will be meted out to the the 3 murderers of PC Harper.
He's gobby but I really can't think I've ever heard him say anything that made me think he deserved to be assaulted by a far-right with a problem against people with left and pro-LGBT views.Neither do I care about the extremist who attached him though it’ll be interesting to compare his sentence with the ones that will be meted out to the the 3 murderers of PC Harper.
“very significant aggravating factors” according to the judge which might explain the lengthy sentence.
Personally I want the people who murdered PC Harper to go to jail for a very long time and like you I suspect they won't but I'm struggling to see what it has to do with the sentence handed out to this chap.
The judiciary work according to guidelines there isn't some sort of plot to give people who assault "lefties" longer sentences.
bhstewie said:
hstewie said:REALIST123 said:
I don’t like Jones either and didn’t lose any sleep over him being attacked. I can understand him upsetting many with his extreme views and ideology and feel that it was always coming to him.
Neither do I care about the extremist who attached him though it’ll be interesting to compare his sentence with the ones that will be meted out to the the 3 murderers of PC Harper.
He's gobby but I really can't think I've ever heard him say anything that made me think he deserved to be assaulted by a far-right with a problem against people with left and pro-LGBT views.Neither do I care about the extremist who attached him though it’ll be interesting to compare his sentence with the ones that will be meted out to the the 3 murderers of PC Harper.
“very significant aggravating factors” according to the judge which might explain the lengthy sentence.
Personally I want the people who murdered PC Harper to go to jail for a very long time and like you I suspect they won't but I'm struggling to see what it has to do with the sentence handed out to this chap.
The judiciary work according to guidelines there isn't some sort of plot to give people who assault "lefties" longer sentences.
biggbn said:
bhstewie said:
hstewie said:REALIST123 said:
I don’t like Jones either and didn’t lose any sleep over him being attacked. I can understand him upsetting many with his extreme views and ideology and feel that it was always coming to him.
Neither do I care about the extremist who attached him though it’ll be interesting to compare his sentence with the ones that will be meted out to the the 3 murderers of PC Harper.
He's gobby but I really can't think I've ever heard him say anything that made me think he deserved to be assaulted by a far-right with a problem against people with left and pro-LGBT views.Neither do I care about the extremist who attached him though it’ll be interesting to compare his sentence with the ones that will be meted out to the the 3 murderers of PC Harper.
“very significant aggravating factors” according to the judge which might explain the lengthy sentence.
Personally I want the people who murdered PC Harper to go to jail for a very long time and like you I suspect they won't but I'm struggling to see what it has to do with the sentence handed out to this chap.
The judiciary work according to guidelines there isn't some sort of plot to give people who assault "lefties" longer sentences.
When he gets a light battering for his political views he goes crying to the police.
98elise said:
biggbn said:
bhstewie said:
hstewie said:REALIST123 said:
I don’t like Jones either and didn’t lose any sleep over him being attacked. I can understand him upsetting many with his extreme views and ideology and feel that it was always coming to him.
Neither do I care about the extremist who attached him though it’ll be interesting to compare his sentence with the ones that will be meted out to the the 3 murderers of PC Harper.
He's gobby but I really can't think I've ever heard him say anything that made me think he deserved to be assaulted by a far-right with a problem against people with left and pro-LGBT views.Neither do I care about the extremist who attached him though it’ll be interesting to compare his sentence with the ones that will be meted out to the the 3 murderers of PC Harper.
“very significant aggravating factors” according to the judge which might explain the lengthy sentence.
Personally I want the people who murdered PC Harper to go to jail for a very long time and like you I suspect they won't but I'm struggling to see what it has to do with the sentence handed out to this chap.
The judiciary work according to guidelines there isn't some sort of plot to give people who assault "lefties" longer sentences.
When he gets a light battering for his political views he goes crying to the police.
biggbn said:
bhstewie said:
hstewie said:REALIST123 said:
I don’t like Jones either and didn’t lose any sleep over him being attacked. I can understand him upsetting many with his extreme views and ideology and feel that it was always coming to him.
Neither do I care about the extremist who attached him though it’ll be interesting to compare his sentence with the ones that will be meted out to the the 3 murderers of PC Harper.
He's gobby but I really can't think I've ever heard him say anything that made me think he deserved to be assaulted by a far-right with a problem against people with left and pro-LGBT views.Neither do I care about the extremist who attached him though it’ll be interesting to compare his sentence with the ones that will be meted out to the the 3 murderers of PC Harper.
“very significant aggravating factors” according to the judge which might explain the lengthy sentence.
Personally I want the people who murdered PC Harper to go to jail for a very long time and like you I suspect they won't but I'm struggling to see what it has to do with the sentence handed out to this chap.
The judiciary work according to guidelines there isn't some sort of plot to give people who assault "lefties" longer sentences.
He’s far more than just a mouthy Marxist. He’s little better than the guy who assaulted him, if at all.
biggbn said:
Ah, so it did happen then? I seem to remember many on this thread claiming it didn't? I dont like the fella much, no time for anyone that preaches violence. But im sorry, getting filled in for your views is a bit pathetic in this day and age and the law, being impartial, covers everyone regardless of their individual persuasions.
Do you appreciate the irony of someone who advocates violence upon those with differing views becoming the victim of violence for his views?As you find the concept abhorrent do you have any less sympathy for him?
I think people were entitled to question events as per any other incident up to the point that there is supporting evidence or testimony, especially given the man’s proven record of weaponising events for his agenda, his behaviour has built up quite a shadow on his own impartiality.
I don’t condone the violence towards him btw.
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