46th President of the United States, Joe Biden

46th President of the United States, Joe Biden

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paulguitar

23,991 posts

115 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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Four Litre said:
paulguitar said:
Where were you during the trump presidency? You must have been FURIOUS (presumably?), but I can't recall you weighing in with your videos on that thread at all. It's very, very strange.
Did you watch it?
Sort of scanned through it. I am not a Biden supporter, in particular, but I think making and sharing these kinds of videos reflects very poorly on those doing so. We all know he's an old bloke, too old ideally for what he's doing, but the world owes him a debt of gratitude for sparing everyone the unthinkable horror of what the alternative was.

In addition to that, actual serious stuff like the inflation rate and job numbers in the USA are (relatively) very good. No mention is ever made of that by you, or indeed any mention of anything adult, really.

captain_cynic

12,356 posts

97 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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tangerine_sedge said:
I watched it, and as usual it was weak sauce from you. Not even one mention of a working foreign policy or improving economic outcomes for the US, but plenty of out of context clips.

Is it just me, or have the 'not a trump fan' trolls really dropped off recently in terms of both quality and number?
There was a purge a while back and it's taking them some time to get the 1000 posts required to post in NP&E without getting banned again.


stuckmojo

3,002 posts

190 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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paulguitar said:
Sort of scanned through it. I am not a Biden supporter, in particular, but I think making and sharing these kinds of videos reflects very poorly on those doing so. We all know he's an old bloke, too old ideally for what he's doing, but the world owes him a debt of gratitude for sparing everyone the unthinkable horror of what the alternative was.

In addition to that, actual serious stuff like the inflation rate and job numbers in the USA are (relatively) very good. No mention is ever made of that by you, or indeed any mention of anything adult, really.
Unthinkable horror?

paulguitar

23,991 posts

115 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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stuckmojo said:
Unthinkable horror?
Yes, absolutely.



stuckmojo

3,002 posts

190 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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paulguitar said:
Yes, absolutely.
How, specifically?

From were I'm standing - a cynical observer of the west eating itself alive - the Biden presidency looks like the worst in living memory. And Trump was immensely worse than anyone before.

I can't see a single thing which has not worsened in the last 4 years.

Al Gorithum

3,809 posts

210 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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stuckmojo said:
I can't see a single thing which has not worsened in the last 4 years.
You've not been looking at the economy, employment, inflation, reliance on carbon-based energy etc then.

paulguitar

23,991 posts

115 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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stuckmojo said:
paulguitar said:
Yes, absolutely.
How, specifically?

From were I'm standing - a cynical observer of the west eating itself alive - the Biden presidency looks like the worst in living memory. And Trump was immensely worse than anyone before.

I can't see a single thing which has not worsened in the last 4 years.
trump attempted, and continues to attempt to end the democratic process in the USA. it's pretty much impossible to exaggerate just how dangerous he is.

As far as Biden goes, as stated in my previous post, actual serious stuff like job numbers and inflation rates are relatively good. Far from things having 'worsened' in the last four years, in many areas, they have significantly improved. And at present with Biden the country still has a president, rather than a dictator.





stuckmojo

3,002 posts

190 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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paulguitar said:
trump attempted, and continues to attempt to end the democratic process in the USA. it's pretty much impossible to exaggerate just how dangerous he is.

As far as Biden goes, as stated in my previous post, actual serious stuff like job numbers and inflation rates are relatively good. Far from things having 'worsened' in the last four years, in many areas, they have significantly improved. And at present with Biden the country still has a president, rather than a dictator.
Trump? This thread is about Biden. Trump is a disgrace. Biden, a disaster. Funny how everyone who has to defend Biden mentions Trump.

hidetheelephants

25,082 posts

195 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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stuckmojo said:
paulguitar said:
Yes, absolutely.
How, specifically?

From were I'm standing - a cynical observer of the west eating itself alive - the Biden presidency looks like the worst in living memory. And Trump was immensely worse than anyone before.

I can't see a single thing which has not worsened in the last 4 years.
Trump literally tried to end the republic and install himself as a monarch, but Biden is worse? rofl

S600BSB

5,142 posts

108 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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paulguitar said:
Four Litre said:
paulguitar said:
Where were you during the trump presidency? You must have been FURIOUS (presumably?), but I can't recall you weighing in with your videos on that thread at all. It's very, very strange.
Did you watch it?
Sort of scanned through it. I am not a Biden supporter, in particular, but I think making and sharing these kinds of videos reflects very poorly on those doing so. We all know he's an old bloke, too old ideally for what he's doing, but the world owes him a debt of gratitude for sparing everyone the unthinkable horror of what the alternative was.

In addition to that, actual serious stuff like the inflation rate and job numbers in the USA are (relatively) very good. No mention is ever made of that by you, or indeed any mention of anything adult, really.
You are spot on.

paulguitar

23,991 posts

115 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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stuckmojo said:
paulguitar said:
trump attempted, and continues to attempt to end the democratic process in the USA. it's pretty much impossible to exaggerate just how dangerous he is.

As far as Biden goes, as stated in my previous post, actual serious stuff like job numbers and inflation rates are relatively good. Far from things having 'worsened' in the last four years, in many areas, they have significantly improved. And at present with Biden the country still has a president, rather than a dictator.
Trump? This thread is about Biden. Trump is a disgrace. Biden, a disaster. Funny how everyone who has to defend Biden mentions Trump.
You directly asked me about the phrase I used to describe the alternative to a Biden presidency. Since this alternative was trump, it was obviously necessary to mention him.


You've also completely ignored the references by me and others to job numbers, the inflation rate, the economy, etc, but continue to refer to the Biden presidency as a 'disaster' with no context or explanation.




southendpier

5,273 posts

231 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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captain_cynic said:
There was a purge a while back and it's taking them some time to get the 1000 posts required to post in NP&E without getting banned again.
Was there?

That's interesting; who was purged and how do you know this?

mko9

2,436 posts

214 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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stuckmojo said:
paulguitar said:
Sort of scanned through it. I am not a Biden supporter, in particular, but I think making and sharing these kinds of videos reflects very poorly on those doing so. We all know he's an old bloke, too old ideally for what he's doing, but the world owes him a debt of gratitude for sparing everyone the unthinkable horror of what the alternative was.

In addition to that, actual serious stuff like the inflation rate and job numbers in the USA are (relatively) very good. No mention is ever made of that by you, or indeed any mention of anything adult, really.
Unthinkable horror?
I think he is talking about the mean tweets

paulguitar

23,991 posts

115 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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mko9 said:
stuckmojo said:
paulguitar said:
Sort of scanned through it. I am not a Biden supporter, in particular, but I think making and sharing these kinds of videos reflects very poorly on those doing so. We all know he's an old bloke, too old ideally for what he's doing, but the world owes him a debt of gratitude for sparing everyone the unthinkable horror of what the alternative was.

In addition to that, actual serious stuff like the inflation rate and job numbers in the USA are (relatively) very good. No mention is ever made of that by you, or indeed any mention of anything adult, really.
Unthinkable horror?
I think he is talking about the mean tweets
Quite often see this stupid comment on Twitter. Try to do better.




dukeboy749r

2,829 posts

212 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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mko9 said:
stuckmojo said:
paulguitar said:
Sort of scanned through it. I am not a Biden supporter, in particular, but I think making and sharing these kinds of videos reflects very poorly on those doing so. We all know he's an old bloke, too old ideally for what he's doing, but the world owes him a debt of gratitude for sparing everyone the unthinkable horror of what the alternative was.

In addition to that, actual serious stuff like the inflation rate and job numbers in the USA are (relatively) very good. No mention is ever made of that by you, or indeed any mention of anything adult, really.
Unthinkable horror?
I think he is talking about the mean tweets
I note that this thread continues to attract some sensible posts and a whole raft of conspiracy theory/Biden BaD/ let's drag it down to tRuMp-level comments.

Kids and internet access,eh?

P. ONeill

1,455 posts

54 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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stuckmojo said:
Unthinkable horror?
I cannot think of two words that describe Trump better.

paulguitar

23,991 posts

115 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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dukeboy749r said:
I note that this thread continues to attract some sensible posts and a whole raft of conspiracy theory/Biden BaD/ let's drag it down to tRuMp-level comments.

Kids and internet access,eh?
It’s frustrating. I think quite a few of us are interested in having an adult discussion but it seems to be unlikely here.

P. ONeill

1,455 posts

54 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2023
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U.S. President Joe Biden's energy security advisor is visiting Israel to discuss potential economic revitalization plans for Gaza centered around undeveloped offshore natural gas fields.

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2023-11-20/ty-...

86

2,829 posts

118 months

Thursday 30th November 2023
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Please elect anyone other than this idiot

https://nypost.com/2023/11/29/news/biden-brags-my-...

andymadmak

14,665 posts

272 months

Friday 1st December 2023
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86 said:
Please elect anyone other than this idiot

https://nypost.com/2023/11/29/news/biden-brags-my-...
He's not an idiot. In fact he is (was) a very intelligent and articulate man. Age is not treating him kindly lately. Surely there has to be a better choice for the US and the world than Biden or Trump - but if that is the choice then I hope Biden wins and then passes the baton to his running mate (VP) Do we have an idea who that might be? (Please not KH!)