46th President of the United States, Joe Biden

[BikeBikeBIke]

RumbleOfThunder said:

This is first time I've ventured in here and 90% posts are people putting partisan politics first, and refusing to acknowledge that Biden is not fit for office.

I'm not partisan and I think Biden will be fine. If he develops dementia and\or dies (both likely at his age) there will be a VP to take over and/or a team around him.

Can you point to a decision made recently that was bat poo mental made because Biden has lost his facalties?

[RumbleOfThunder]

A reminder of what a Joe Biden with appropriate mental capacity looks and sounds like.

[RumbleOfThunder]

BikeBikeBIke said:

RumbleOfThunder said:

This is first time I've ventured in here and 90% posts are people putting partisan politics first, and refusing to acknowledge that Biden is not fit for office.

I'm not partisan and I think Biden will be fine. If he develops dementia and\or dies (both likely at his age) there will be a VP to take over and/or a team around him.

Can you point to a decision made recently that was bat poo mental made because Biden has lost his facalties?

I hate to be the one to break it to you, Bike, but he isn't making any decisions. It's a failure to democracy that he's being propped up by his administration like this.

[Castrol for a knave]

RumbleOfThunder said:

BikeBikeBIke said:

This.

Getting your words mixed up and minor lapses of memory on the spot don't affect your ability to make decisions, especially with a good team around you.

A far younger guy might be better, but there's no major danger from a Biden Presedency.

Trump doesn't appeal to floating voters and those are the people who count and those floating voters will take Biden over Trump every time no matter how "sleepy" he is.

I'm not remotely concerned. Mind you, I'm not *that* concerned about Trump, he appears to be a fool, but in office he doesn't make terrible mistakes (I can think of once exception) and he has a team around him who aren't idiots.

"Minor lapses of memory". HE CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT YEAR HIS SON DIED OR WHAT YEAR HE STOPPED BEING THE VICE PRESIDENT. Are people not reading these reports or just willfully ignoring them?

He had the mental acuity to put Doocey in his place

The report cleared him. The report was also written by a Republican, who used it to make political capital.

Both of them are older than God's dog. the whole mental agility thing for both is just boring. I never click on Trump gaff links, same as I don't with Biden. Giving both some balance, they are elderly, under enormous pressure and the odd gaff here and there is just human.

I called a colleague of 10 years an entirely different name, all day, earlier this week. She eventually told me much as she liked the name Amy, she was actually called Debbie.

[The Rotrex Kid]

RumbleOfThunder said:

BikeBikeBIke said:

RumbleOfThunder said:

This is first time I've ventured in here and 90% posts are people putting partisan politics first, and refusing to acknowledge that Biden is not fit for office.

I'm not partisan and I think Biden will be fine. If he develops dementia and\or dies (both likely at his age) there will be a VP to take over and/or a team around him.

Can you point to a decision made recently that was bat poo mental made because Biden has lost his facalties?

I hate to be the one to break it to you, Bike, but he isn't making any decisions. It's a failure to democracy that he's being propped up by his administration like this.

Do you think that any (apart from Dictators) country leaders make decisions purely on their own? That's why they have administrations.....

[BikeBikeBIke]

RumbleOfThunder said:

A reminder of what a Joe Biden with appropriate mental capacity looks and sounds like.

That's why I personally rate Biden.

I heard a UK civil servant from the the time say he phoned Biden and Biden picked up the phone and said "We're on your side, what do you need.".

There are people alive in Britain today, and their decendents because Biden saw a friend in need and helped us. Not everyone in Amercia felt that way at the time.

(Mind you, I'm not that scared of Trump either. These guys don't have the freedom to act that we like to think they do.)

Edited by BikeBikeBIke on Friday 9th February 10:17

[BikeBikeBIke]

RumbleOfThunder said:

BikeBikeBIke said:

RumbleOfThunder said:

This is first time I've ventured in here and 90% posts are people putting partisan politics first, and refusing to acknowledge that Biden is not fit for office.

I'm not partisan and I think Biden will be fine. If he develops dementia and\or dies (both likely at his age) there will be a VP to take over and/or a team around him.

Can you point to a decision made recently that was bat poo mental made because Biden has lost his facalties?

I hate to be the one to break it to you, Bike, but he isn't making any decisions. It's a failure to democracy that he's being propped up by his administration like this.

Anything? Any bad decision made because of Biden? Don't be shy, out with it.

[RumbleOfThunder]

Castrol for a knave said:

RumbleOfThunder said:

BikeBikeBIke said:

This.

Getting your words mixed up and minor lapses of memory on the spot don't affect your ability to make decisions, especially with a good team around you.

A far younger guy might be better, but there's no major danger from a Biden Presedency.

Trump doesn't appeal to floating voters and those are the people who count and those floating voters will take Biden over Trump every time no matter how "sleepy" he is.

I'm not remotely concerned. Mind you, I'm not *that* concerned about Trump, he appears to be a fool, but in office he doesn't make terrible mistakes (I can think of once exception) and he has a team around him who aren't idiots.

"Minor lapses of memory". HE CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT YEAR HIS SON DIED OR WHAT YEAR HE STOPPED BEING THE VICE PRESIDENT. Are people not reading these reports or just willfully ignoring them?

He had the mental acuity to put Doocey in his place

The report cleared him. The report was also written by a Republican, who used it to make political capital.

Both of them are older than God's dog. the whole mental agility thing for both is just boring. I never click on Trump gaff links, same as I don't with Biden. Giving both some balance, they are elderly, under enormous pressure and the odd gaff here and there is just human.

I called a colleague of 10 years an entirely different name, all day, earlier this week. She eventually told me much as she liked the name Amy, she was actually called Debbie.

The aims of the report was to look into illegally stored documents, not his mental competence. Nevertheless the findings are black and white and now publicly available. Biden and his administration are free to correct the record and say the quotes are fabrications, but I'm betting they won't. They will stick to the line that they are inappropriate, and avoid the meat of the issue. These are not odd gaffe's and they are not happening occasionally. It's every press conference he makes, he quotes a world leader from the wrong country, or a world leader from 30 years ago, or quotes someone he thinks is in the room whos been dead 10 years.

[paulguitar]

BikeBikeBIke said:

paulguitar said:

BikeBikeBIke said:

Mind you, I'm not *that* concerned about Trump, he appears to be a fool, but in office he doesn't make terrible mistakes (I can think of once exception) and he has a team around him who aren't idiots.

He intends to .... bring an end to the democratic process.

He really doesn't, and the American system makes that impossible within 4 years. Plus they've all got guns and they and the Army are just itching to fight for freedom.

He really does, and he has already tried to do exactly that, so we have precedent.


Amazingly, a majority of Republicans (74%) say they are okay with trump bearing a 'dictator for the day' as he has said he will do if re-elected.

He won't stop at one day, obviously.

[Earthdweller]

What the DOJ report actually states is that Biden is an elderly male, with memory issues, who cannot remember specific dates, times, places nor account for actions he took, nor is able to understand or read notes he made at the time of events when asked to do so

What they saying is that he is not fit enough to stand trial .. you can’t put a man in the witness box who can’t answer questions because he can’t remember the events

That is the bottom line .. and a very serious one, nothing to do with Dem/Republican party politics but a damning reflection on the individual and his mental capacity

Is a well meaning elderly man with memory issues fit to be the Commander in Chief and leader of the free world ?

I think this will be a catalyst moment

[LF5335]

RumbleOfThunder said:

The aims of the report was to look into illegally stored documents, not his mental competence. Nevertheless the findings are black and white and now publicly available. Biden and his administration are free to correct the record and say the quotes are fabrications, but I'm betting they won't. They will stick to the line that they are inappropriate, and avoid the meat of the issue. These are not odd gaffe's and they are not happening occasionally. It's every press conference he makes, he quotes a world leader from the wrong country, or a world leader from 30 years ago, or quotes someone he thinks is in the room whos been dead 10 years.

Can you show me the gaffes in the last 10 press conferences he’s made please. All 10 press conferences.

[RumbleOfThunder]

BikeBikeBIke said:

RumbleOfThunder said:

BikeBikeBIke said:

RumbleOfThunder said:

This is first time I've ventured in here and 90% posts are people putting partisan politics first, and refusing to acknowledge that Biden is not fit for office.

I'm not partisan and I think Biden will be fine. If he develops dementia and\or dies (both likely at his age) there will be a VP to take over and/or a team around him.

Can you point to a decision made recently that was bat poo mental made because Biden has lost his facalties?

I hate to be the one to break it to you, Bike, but he isn't making any decisions. It's a failure to democracy that he's being propped up by his administration like this.

Anything? Any bad decision made because of Biden? Don't be shy, out with it.

How can I name a decision when he isn't making any of them? You appear to be going with the notion that it doesn't matter that the leader of the most powerful nation on Earth, the commander in chief of the USA, doesn't have the mental capacity to do his job (that he is obliged to do by voters), because his administration can manage without him. It's a fked up situation and a disrespect to members of the public.

[jshell]

BikeBikeBIke said:

RumbleOfThunder said:

A reminder of what a Joe Biden with appropriate mental capacity looks and sounds like.

That's why I personally rate Biden.

I heard a UK civil servant from the the time say he phoned Biden and Biden picked up the phone and said "We're on your side, what do you need.".

There are people alive in Britain today, and their decendents because Biden saw a friend in need and helped us. Not everyone in Amercia felt that way at the time.

(Mind you, I'm not that scared of Trump either. These guys don't have the freedom to act that we like to think they do.)

Edited by BikeBikeBIke on Friday 9th February 10:17

I agree, he was very mentally astute in his 1997 assertions as to what Russia would do if NATO was pushed through the Balkans! We did, and Joe's predictions came to pass. Even back then Senators and Diplomats around the globe were warning what would come... I await the storm.

[captain_cynic]

Earthdweller said:

What the DOJ report actually states is that Biden is an elderly male, with memory issues, who cannot remember specific dates, times, places nor account for actions he took, nor is able to understand or read notes he made at the time of events when asked to do so

What they saying is that he is not fit enough to stand trial .. you can’t put a man in the witness box who can’t answer questions because he can’t remember the events

That is the bottom line .. and a very serious one, nothing to do with Dem/Republican party politics but a damning reflection on the individual and his mental capacity

Is a well meaning elderly man with memory issues fit to be the Commander in Chief and leader of the free world ?

I think this will be a catalyst moment

Nope, what the report says is that Biden has both.
1. Memory issues.
2. Wilfully kept secret documents.

And that there isn't enough evidence of either to do anything.

It's a nothing burger just like all the other "hurr durr Biden senile" attempts by the Republicans. It'll be forgotten about by everyone except those letting Biden live rent free in their heads by next week.

[isaldiri]

Castrol for a knave said:

The report cleared him. The report was also written by a Republican, who used it to make political capital.

The report stated that Biden 'wilfully retained and disclosed classified materials' but that he would not be charged because it would be difficult to get a conviction because he was old and doddering. That's not really 'clearing him' imo at least.....

[thatsprettyshady]

Interesting that in the Trump thread people are not allowed to say “but Biden” whereas in this thread covering for Biden by mentioning Trumps misdeeds is perfectly okay.

The recent Putin interview with Carlson is a perfect example of a leader who can talk for an hour or so with clarity and fantastic (if ridiculously biased) recall. You can see why other countries become emboldened knowing this doddering old fool will most likely be around another 4 years.

[RumbleOfThunder]

LF5335 said:

RumbleOfThunder said:

The aims of the report was to look into illegally stored documents, not his mental competence. Nevertheless the findings are black and white and now publicly available. Biden and his administration are free to correct the record and say the quotes are fabrications, but I'm betting they won't. They will stick to the line that they are inappropriate, and avoid the meat of the issue. These are not odd gaffe's and they are not happening occasionally. It's every press conference he makes, he quotes a world leader from the wrong country, or a world leader from 30 years ago, or quotes someone he thinks is in the room whos been dead 10 years.

Can you show me the gaffes in the last 10 press conferences he’s made please. All 10 press conferences.

Ah the assumption that I won't invest countless hours into meticulously reading transcripts of his last 10 press conferences. That's a reasonable ask lol. Well I won't, but we have his most recent oopsie doodle from today's BBC news when he implied Mexico were controlling aid into Gaza, a border's a border right?

For other examples, take a look at this channel. If you genuinely don't know the extent of his decline (and not merely refuse to admit it), almost every video is a round up of his latest brain farts, and he attends press conferences as infrequently as he can. Yes it's a republican channel, but left leaning outlets simply aren't reporting this stuff honestly.

[BikeBikeBIke]

thatsprettyshady said:

The recent Putin interview with Carlson is a perfect example of a leader who can talk for an hour or so with clarity

What? He couldn't even clearly explain why he had to invade Ukraine and what he hopes to achieve. The most significant act of his 20 year leadership!

Putins the least clear world leader I can think of by a country mile. He's verbose and vague in the extreme.

[BikeBikeBIke]

RumbleOfThunder said:

BikeBikeBIke said:

RumbleOfThunder said:

BikeBikeBIke said:

RumbleOfThunder said:

This is first time I've ventured in here and 90% posts are people putting partisan politics first, and refusing to acknowledge that Biden is not fit for office.

I'm not partisan and I think Biden will be fine. If he develops dementia and\or dies (both likely at his age) there will be a VP to take over and/or a team around him.

Can you point to a decision made recently that was bat poo mental made because Biden has lost his facalties?

I hate to be the one to break it to you, Bike, but he isn't making any decisions. It's a failure to democracy that he's being propped up by his administration like this.

Anything? Any bad decision made because of Biden? Don't be shy, out with it.

How can I name a decision when he isn't making any of them? You appear to be going with the notion that it doesn't matter that the leader of the most powerful nation on Earth, the commander in chief of the USA, doesn't have the mental capacity to do his job (that he is obliged to do by voters), because his administration can manage without him. It's a fked up situation and a disrespect to members of the public.

That's exactly what I think. The system is set up to easily cope with a vague presedent or even a dead one.

As it happens I don't think mixing up his words is evidence that he's senile, but if he is the system will cope and is coping right now.

Of course mixing up his words *could* easily stop him getting elected but against Trump I think he'll still win because Trump is poison to floating voters.

[BikeBikeBIke]

jshell said:

I agree, he was very mentally astute in his 1997 assertions as to what Russia would do if NATO was pushed through the Balkans! We did, and Joe's predictions came to pass. Even back then Senators and Diplomats around the globe were warning what would come... I await the storm.

1) NATO didn't push anywhere. Russia's neighbours wanted to join.

2) Can the West legitimatey invade Belarus because the CSTO is on our borders?

3) Can the Russia legitimately invade Ukrain because the NATO is on their borders?

Plus Biden specifically said 'non-military' in that vid.