46th President of the United States, Joe Biden
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isaldiri said:
Castrol for a knave said:
The report cleared him. The report was also written by a Republican, who used it to make political capital.
The report stated that Biden 'wilfully retained and disclosed classified materials' but that he would not be charged because it would be difficult to get a conviction because he was old and doddering. That's not really 'clearing him' imo at least..... I can see the GOP meeting now "f
k, he hasn't done anything we can charge him with, let's run the whole mental faculties thing, at least rescue this and get some political capital out of it". Trying to connect him allegedly not immediately remembering when his son died to lacking mental ability, is quite grim and desperate.
Castrol for a knave said:
Trying to connect him allegedly not immediately remembering when his son died to lacking mental ability, is quite grim and desperate.
It's really not. Gaffes are always used by opponents to score points. Same thing happened to Bush. (He only made about 6 embarrassing Gaffes and the played them back over and over again.)I think Biden's fine at the moment and the system will cope if he ceases to be fine but it's a bad look and against any other candidate he Trump he'd be an open goal.
Luckily for the Dems Trump's core are going to get him the Rep nomination and Trump is poison for floating voters.
Castrol for a knave said:
It's deliberately ambiguous. If he transgressed, then he should be charged. The whole "he's on old giffer" thing, is doublespeak.
I can see the GOP meeting now "fk, he hasn't done anything we can charge him with, let's run the whole mental faculties thing, at least rescue this and get some political capital out of it".
Trying to connect him allegedly not immediately remembering when his son died to lacking mental ability, is quite grim and desperate.
It kind of depends though. the prosecution usually will only bring charges if they believe there is a realistic prospect of persuading a jury to convict. Whether one should be charged if there is a transgression or not kind of is always going to be secondary to that.. and actually, if it was all about getting political capital then having him in the dock answering court charges would probably garner at least as much as stating he was a little bit hard of remembering things in the report.I can see the GOP meeting now "f
k, he hasn't done anything we can charge him with, let's run the whole mental faculties thing, at least rescue this and get some political capital out of it". Trying to connect him allegedly not immediately remembering when his son died to lacking mental ability, is quite grim and desperate.
isaldiri said:
Castrol for a knave said:
It's deliberately ambiguous. If he transgressed, then he should be charged. The whole "he's on old giffer" thing, is doublespeak.
I can see the GOP meeting now "fk, he hasn't done anything we can charge him with, let's run the whole mental faculties thing, at least rescue this and get some political capital out of it".
Trying to connect him allegedly not immediately remembering when his son died to lacking mental ability, is quite grim and desperate.
It kind of depends though. the prosecution usually will only bring charges if they believe there is a realistic prospect of persuading a jury to convict. Whether one should be charged if there is a transgression or not kind of is always going to be secondary to that.. and actually, if it was all about getting political capital then having him in the dock answering court charges would probably garner at least as much as stating he was a little bit hard of remembering things in the report.I can see the GOP meeting now "f
k, he hasn't done anything we can charge him with, let's run the whole mental faculties thing, at least rescue this and get some political capital out of it". Trying to connect him allegedly not immediately remembering when his son died to lacking mental ability, is quite grim and desperate.
He couldn’t answer relevant question when interviewed, didn’t know times,dates, places, make sense of his own notes or even the dates when he was VP therefore putting him on a witness stand to testify and answer the same questions is rather pointless
As I said before they are saying he is not fit to stand trial because of his cognitive decline
LF5335 said:
Trump is a disgrace. Bizarrely though, the only reason that Biden is around for re-election is because Trump is still here. If Trump was finished then I’m sure Biden would have stepped aside.
I think Biden being around still is more due to the fact that Kamala Harris seems to be about as popular as a cock flavoured lollypop. dudleybloke said:
Personally I think there should be a maximum age limit on people running the country.
It's difficult to believe that out of a country of 320 million people the only candidates for the presidency are these old fossils.
Yep agree, plus the same should go to Senators and House Members. It's difficult to believe that out of a country of 320 million people the only candidates for the presidency are these old fossils.
According to the link https://www.statista.com/statistics/1361920/senato... 4% of Senators are over 80, and 34% over 70
Challo said:
Yep agree, plus the same should go to Senators and House Members.
According to the link https://www.statista.com/statistics/1361920/senato... 4% of Senators are over 80, and 34% over 70
And SCOTUS.According to the link https://www.statista.com/statistics/1361920/senato... 4% of Senators are over 80, and 34% over 70
Relax.
Joe's doing a great job and has always been gaffe prone, it's part of being Joe. I couldn't care less if he makes gaffe's, gets people's name wrong or forgets the date. The bottom line is he's already achieved a great deal, has a great team behind him and is a very safe pair of hands at a difficult time for the world.
Joe Biden in a coma, on life support and clinically dead would still be 100 x preferable to Donald Trump.
Joe's doing a great job and has always been gaffe prone, it's part of being Joe. I couldn't care less if he makes gaffe's, gets people's name wrong or forgets the date. The bottom line is he's already achieved a great deal, has a great team behind him and is a very safe pair of hands at a difficult time for the world.
Joe Biden in a coma, on life support and clinically dead would still be 100 x preferable to Donald Trump.
Challo said:
Yep agree, plus the same should go to Senators and House Members.
According to the link https://www.statista.com/statistics/1361920/senato... 4% of Senators are over 80, and 34% over 70
We used to laugh at the USSR for this. Pathetic really. According to the link https://www.statista.com/statistics/1361920/senato... 4% of Senators are over 80, and 34% over 70
Scrimpton said:
LF5335 said:
Trump is a disgrace. Bizarrely though, the only reason that Biden is around for re-election is because Trump is still here. If Trump was finished then I’m sure Biden would have stepped aside.
I think Biden being around still is more due to the fact that Kamala Harris seems to be about as popular as a cock flavoured lollypop. unrepentant said:
Relax.
Joe's doing a great job and has always been gaffe prone, it's part of being Joe. I couldn't care less if he makes gaffe's, gets people's name wrong or forgets the date. The bottom line is he's already achieved a great deal, has a great team behind him and is a very safe pair of hands at a difficult time for the world.
Joe Biden in a coma, on life support and clinically dead would still be 100 x preferable to Donald Trump.
Thought this was an anonymoususer post Joe's doing a great job and has always been gaffe prone, it's part of being Joe. I couldn't care less if he makes gaffe's, gets people's name wrong or forgets the date. The bottom line is he's already achieved a great deal, has a great team behind him and is a very safe pair of hands at a difficult time for the world.
Joe Biden in a coma, on life support and clinically dead would still be 100 x preferable to Donald Trump.
unrepentant said:
Relax.
Joe's doing a great job and has always been gaffe prone, it's part of being Joe. I couldn't care less if he makes gaffe's, gets people's name wrong or forgets the date. The bottom line is he's already achieved a great deal, has a great team behind him and is a very safe pair of hands at a difficult time for the world.
Joe Biden in a coma, on life support and clinically dead would still be 100 x preferable to Donald Trump.
Is that not the same sentiment that Maga supporters have for trump? Neither are fit for office (for very, very different reasons) but so many are so blinkered to 'not the other guy' that they can't see how bad their choice is.Joe's doing a great job and has always been gaffe prone, it's part of being Joe. I couldn't care less if he makes gaffe's, gets people's name wrong or forgets the date. The bottom line is he's already achieved a great deal, has a great team behind him and is a very safe pair of hands at a difficult time for the world.
Joe Biden in a coma, on life support and clinically dead would still be 100 x preferable to Donald Trump.
unrepentant said:
Relax.
Joe's doing a great job and has always been gaffe prone, it's part of being Joe. I couldn't care less if he makes gaffe's, gets people's name wrong or forgets the date. The bottom line is he's already achieved a great deal, has a great team behind him and is a very safe pair of hands at a difficult time for the world.
Joe Biden in a coma, on life support and clinically dead would still be 100 x preferable to Donald Trump.
People forget they are voting for the leader AND the administration. IMO it's the administration that is driving this success. Joe's doing a great job and has always been gaffe prone, it's part of being Joe. I couldn't care less if he makes gaffe's, gets people's name wrong or forgets the date. The bottom line is he's already achieved a great deal, has a great team behind him and is a very safe pair of hands at a difficult time for the world.
Joe Biden in a coma, on life support and clinically dead would still be 100 x preferable to Donald Trump.
The leader is just the face of it all.
InformationSuperHighway said:
People forget they are voting for the leader AND the administration. IMO it's the administration that is driving this success.
The leader is just the face of it all.
Yup. And Joe’s team is a very competent one, in complete contrast to the wretched hive of scum and villainy that was the previous administration.The leader is just the face of it all.
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