46th President of the United States, Joe Biden
Discussion
Four Litre said:
djc206 said:
I disagree.
The ballot papers are as good as printed. Trump or Biden. You can have a geriatric criminal or a geriatric with a history of working for his people. Seems like a pretty easy decision to me.
Time to face Ronnie reality. The ballot papers are as good as printed. Trump or Biden. You can have a geriatric criminal or a geriatric with a history of working for his people. Seems like a pretty easy decision to me.
Scrimpton said:
The Dems f
ked up before by putting Hillary against him, I worry they're fking up again. I don't think Trump has a chance against a normal candidate, I think he has a big chance against Biden.
I think you’re right about Trump not having a chance against a normal candidate by which I assume we both understand younger and more impressive an orator eg Obama. However, I t’s also worth remembering that Biden beat Trump before. It’s just a rematch of two guys who are both just 4 years older, it’s not the last election was a battle between young men. One has largely kept his nose clean and got on with running a country quite well and the other has spent a sizeable chunk of his campaign donations on legal fees because his criminality and contempt for just about everyone else has finally been clearly revealed by the US legal system which has arrived at the party a little more than fashionably late. Given the choice between a doddery rapist and a doddery non rapist surely anyone sane picks the non rapist?ked up before by putting Hillary against him, I worry they're fking up again. I don't think Trump has a chance against a normal candidate, I think he has a big chance against Biden.borcy said:
To those that follow US politics is there's a plan b incase Biden goes further downhill before the election?
If his issues continue and starts to become an issue with voters can they go a last minute change or is it too late?
Is it likely that the current VP will get the nod again?
He'd probably be better doing a Jacinda and giving his backing to someone younger and female. Dems are always going to vote Dem. But a female would be a stand against the anti abortion loonies.If his issues continue and starts to become an issue with voters can they go a last minute change or is it too late?
Is it likely that the current VP will get the nod again?
R1gtr said:
Looks like the bookies think Sleepy Joe is finished. For those in here sure he is going to win then surely this is like free money, get your bets on.
Skeptisk said:
Biden is too old. But Trump is pretty much the same age. All the “sleepy Joe” insults from Trump but he is now the same age as Biden was at the last election. Just feels bizarre that they are using age as an issue.
Maybe Joe should get a bit more punchy, be less of a gentleman, and start referring to his opponent as 'rapey Donald'.paulguitar said:
Maybe Joe should get a bit more punchy, be less of a gentleman, and start referring to his opponent as 'rapey Donald'.
Whilst I’d like to see it, I think there’s the aspect of trying to maintain reasonableness and dignity and not dropping to their gutter level. However, there is a midpoint and Biden’s approach needs to ramp up a bit and move to be more punchy and a bit more aggressive. I think (hope) they’re just waiting for the results of Super Tuesday and absolute confirmation that it’s going to be Trump that he’s facing. Tony Starks said:
borcy said:
To those that follow US politics is there's a plan b incase Biden goes further downhill before the election?
If his issues continue and starts to become an issue with voters can they go a last minute change or is it too late?
Is it likely that the current VP will get the nod again?
He'd probably be better doing a Jacinda and giving his backing to someone younger and female. Dems are always going to vote Dem. But a female would be a stand against the anti abortion loonies.If his issues continue and starts to become an issue with voters can they go a last minute change or is it too late?
Is it likely that the current VP will get the nod again?
borcy said:
Tony Starks said:
borcy said:
To those that follow US politics is there's a plan b incase Biden goes further downhill before the election?
If his issues continue and starts to become an issue with voters can they go a last minute change or is it too late?
Is it likely that the current VP will get the nod again?
He'd probably be better doing a Jacinda and giving his backing to someone younger and female. Dems are always going to vote Dem. But a female would be a stand against the anti abortion loonies.If his issues continue and starts to become an issue with voters can they go a last minute change or is it too late?
Is it likely that the current VP will get the nod again?
I've watched the clips from the recent press conferences and it's not good not good at all, how the Dems have got themselves in this position I'll never know (same for the other side as well) I have zero ill will to Biden and think Trump is a mad/bad man and have no issues with Biden staying to keep Trump out if that's the only option.
But that's still a dreadful choice vs having a strong younger contender without the obvious challenges Biden has as a 50 year old he would wipe the floor with Trump, but where is that democrat 50 some year old?
My vote would be going to Biden if I had one but that's "because Trump" take him away and Biden would be asked to step down and would step down, they need a better VP than they have to step in when the time comes.
Bonefish Blues said:
Americast guys were speculating that the step-aside (which I think is almost inevitable now) could be as late as summer, and that the only route would be via Dr Jill
In some ways that would work really well. Let Trump go hell for leather on the “too old” “senile” aspect then rock up with young candidate and then play all the gaffes and his own words back at him. LF5335 said:
R1gtr said:
Odds reduce as more money flows towards one potential winner. If Man City played Accrington Stanley and a lot of money started going on Accrington then the odds would reduce. It doesn’t mean they’re more likely to win, it means the bookies are lowering their exposure. 
For anyone interested, bookies obviously offer negative value (don't use bookies, you can't win long term).
Trump is still available to back (as I type) at 2.16 on Betfair Exchange (not Betfair Sportsbook, the Exchange is punter versus punter - no bookie overrounds here).
In the Democratic Nominee market, Biden has drifted from 1.17 to 1.5 following his latest memory incidents. Michelle Obama is trading at 9.0, Newsom 12.0.
Eta: Biden is available to back at 3.75 on BF Exchange.
Edited by deeps on Saturday 10th February 14:47
deeps said:
Don't take up gambling for a living LF
For anyone interested, bookies obviously offer negative value (don't use bookies, you can't win long term).
Trump is still available to back (as I type) at 2.16 on Betfair Exchange (not Betfair Sportsbook, the Exchange is punter versus punter - no bookie overrounds here).
In the Democratic Nominee market, Biden has drifted from 1.17 to 1.5 following his latest memory incidents. Michelle Obama is trading at 9.0, Newsom 12.0.
Eta: Biden is available to back at 3.75 on BF Exchange.
I’ve no idea what much of that means. My point is that bookies will reduce odds when money starts flowing towards one of the two potential winners. If you don’t think that happens then explain why. If I walked into a bookies and said I wanted to put £1m on a horse I’m damn sure they wouldn’t give me the current advertised odds and I’m damn sure they would reduce the odds on that horse winning too. The same would apply for them dropping the odds as a whole if they got 100,000 £10 bets or saw a trend of lots of money going towards one horse. For anyone interested, bookies obviously offer negative value (don't use bookies, you can't win long term).
Trump is still available to back (as I type) at 2.16 on Betfair Exchange (not Betfair Sportsbook, the Exchange is punter versus punter - no bookie overrounds here).
In the Democratic Nominee market, Biden has drifted from 1.17 to 1.5 following his latest memory incidents. Michelle Obama is trading at 9.0, Newsom 12.0.
Eta: Biden is available to back at 3.75 on BF Exchange.
Edited by deeps on Saturday 10th February 14:47
I think you are confusing statistical mathematics with the general point that Trump is now 1/1 odds on of winning the presidency and beating Biden.
You can dismiss the odds of course but that doesn't change the fact that he odds are 1/1 and they were not 1/1 a few days ago.
Odds can change of course, so can Biden's election campaign but it's not exactly a position of starting strength to fight a campaign.
You can dismiss the odds of course but that doesn't change the fact that he odds are 1/1 and they were not 1/1 a few days ago.
Odds can change of course, so can Biden's election campaign but it's not exactly a position of starting strength to fight a campaign.
Carl_VivaEspana said:
I think you are confusing statistical mathematics with the general point that Trump is now 1/1 odds on of winning the presidency and beating Biden.
You can dismiss the odds of course but that doesn't change the fact that he odds are 1/1 and they were not 1/1 a few days ago.
Odds can change of course, so can Biden's election campaign but it's not exactly a position of starting strength to fight a campaign.
It doesn’t really matter at the moment the gloves aren’t off. Nobody is confirmed as the candidate for either side yet. Trump has the not so small matter of his first criminal trial starting next month, although the other two look like they’ll be post election. I think it all starts once each side absolutely confirms their candidate. What’s the betting Biden wants to do the Presidential debates, but for some reason Trump runs scared of debating him live. Plus there is a lot of real world Ytump gaffes for the Biden campaign to mess about with. You can dismiss the odds of course but that doesn't change the fact that he odds are 1/1 and they were not 1/1 a few days ago.
Odds can change of course, so can Biden's election campaign but it's not exactly a position of starting strength to fight a campaign.
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