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Rollin said:
Why are people desperate to suck up to the USA? We trade more with the EU and the don4l-a-likes are up for telling them to fk off.
You're obviously over thinking this.The way it works is, you pick a side based on whose hair, jacket or choice of beer you like the best and then just ride it out until oblivion.
Rollin said:
Why are people desperate to suck up to the USA? We trade more with the EU and the don4l-a-likes are up for telling them to fk off.
For starters the UK is the biggest investor in the USA and vice versa. Secondly we rely on the USA for a lot of military hardware and co-operation, not to mention their intelligence network and capability (and they rely on us too, as we have significant intel capabiilty). s2art said:
Rollin said:
Why are people desperate to suck up to the USA? We trade more with the EU and the don4l-a-likes are up for telling them to fk off.
For starters the UK is the biggest investor in the USA and vice versa. Secondly we rely on the USA for a lot of military hardware and co-operation, not to mention their intelligence network and capability (and they rely on us too, as we have significant intel capabiilty). minimoog said:
s2art said:
Rollin said:
Why are people desperate to suck up to the USA? We trade more with the EU and the don4l-a-likes are up for telling them to fk off.
For starters the UK is the biggest investor in the USA and vice versa. Secondly we rely on the USA for a lot of military hardware and co-operation, not to mention their intelligence network and capability (and they rely on us too, as we have significant intel capabiilty). s2art said:
Rollin said:
Why are people desperate to suck up to the USA? We trade more with the EU and the don4l-a-likes are up for telling them to fk off.
For starters the UK is the biggest investor in the USA and vice versa. Secondly we rely on the USA for a lot of military hardware and co-operation, not to mention their intelligence network and capability (and they rely on us too, as we have significant intel capabiilty). The majority also appears to be financial services which is a sector supposedly at risk when the UK leaves the EU
https://en.portal.santandertrade.com/establish-ove...
Rollin said:
s2art said:
Rollin said:
Why are people desperate to suck up to the USA? We trade more with the EU and the don4l-a-likes are up for telling them to fk off.
For starters the UK is the biggest investor in the USA and vice versa. Secondly we rely on the USA for a lot of military hardware and co-operation, not to mention their intelligence network and capability (and they rely on us too, as we have significant intel capabiilty). The majority also appears to be financial services which is a sector supposedly at risk when the UK leaves the EU
https://en.portal.santandertrade.com/establish-ove...
No prizes for guessing which ex London Mayor was saying this not so long ago.
“I would invite him to come and see the whole of London and take him round the city – except I wouldn’t want to expose any Londoners to any unnecessary risk of meeting Donald Trump.”
he also said: “The only reason I wouldn't visit some parts of New York is the real risk of meeting Donald Trump.”
Now he is saying: (brown-nosing)
"The UK should be “as positive as we possibly can be” about the new Trump adminstration.
Trump should be judged by his actions, which the UK government hopes to “shape”.
It will be Trumps turn soon methinks:
“I would invite him to come and see the whole of London and take him round the city – except I wouldn’t want to expose any Londoners to any unnecessary risk of meeting Donald Trump.”
he also said: “The only reason I wouldn't visit some parts of New York is the real risk of meeting Donald Trump.”
Now he is saying: (brown-nosing)
"The UK should be “as positive as we possibly can be” about the new Trump adminstration.
Trump should be judged by his actions, which the UK government hopes to “shape”.
It will be Trumps turn soon methinks:
esxste said:
FredClogs said:
You're obviously over thinking this.
The way it works is, you pick a side based on whose hair, jacket or choice of beer you like the best and then just ride it out until oblivion.
Which Budweiser do you prefer... the Czech version or the American version... The way it works is, you pick a side based on whose hair, jacket or choice of beer you like the best and then just ride it out until oblivion.
Everyone knows American Budweiser isn't beer...
alfie2244 said:
No prizes for guessing which ex London Mayor was saying this not so long ago.
“I would invite him to come and see the whole of London and take him round the city – except I wouldn’t want to expose any Londoners to any unnecessary risk of meeting Donald Trump.”
he also said: “The only reason I wouldn't visit some parts of New York is the real risk of meeting Donald Trump.”
He said that in a fairly jokey manner off-the-cuff to reporters after Trump had mithered on about areas of London and Birmingham being no-go areas for police; both parties are prone to flights of oratorical fancy which are followed by backpedalling, so they have something in common! “I would invite him to come and see the whole of London and take him round the city – except I wouldn’t want to expose any Londoners to any unnecessary risk of meeting Donald Trump.”
he also said: “The only reason I wouldn't visit some parts of New York is the real risk of meeting Donald Trump.”
FredClogs said:
alfie2244 said:
FredClogs said:
Farage now adopting the alt-right stance of claiming victim status... Everyone hates me, the establishment has rejected me - ergo I must be right and they just can't handle my truth... QED innit...
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-38064664
I think this is nearer the truth:http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-38064664
"It is career politics at its worst and it is now getting in the way of the national interest."
Things could still go very wrong, very quickly for Trump.
That must be what he meant as any other interpretation would be insane.
Despite all unprecedented things that have happened this year, this little spat is a defining moment for me. I cannot envisage how anyone could think that this was anything other than hugely humiliating for the UK and the Govt, and a worrying departure from normal accepted international behaviour.
And yet there are some who think its great. Nothing it seems is across the line now. The lines have been removed and anything previously thought outrageous is considered, "hey why not".
The unthinkable is becoming acceptable to the masses. Very dangerous times.
johnxjsc1985 said:
Dangerous times indeed and none of it is to do with Trump its like people saying this have been ignorant of what has happened in the last 10-15 years and indeed as we sit here there are people in Syria who actually know what "Dangerous times" actually look like.
Given his number of u-turns, part of me still thinks Trump may actually do very little.Its all been a bit of a joke.
The Farage thing might just be a bit of a joke - he knows full well how embarrassing this is but he's just teasing, so perhaps nothing to worry about.
The potentially worrying bit is that he's unpredictable, and it seems he has followers who will just say "hey why not?" instead of going "err, hang on a minute".
Can he get away with anything? Could he say annex a neighbour? Would the masses cheer?
"Mr Secretary, the missiles are flying. Hallelujah!"
hidetheelephants said:
alfie2244 said:
No prizes for guessing which ex London Mayor was saying this not so long ago.
“I would invite him to come and see the whole of London and take him round the city – except I wouldn’t want to expose any Londoners to any unnecessary risk of meeting Donald Trump.”
he also said: “The only reason I wouldn't visit some parts of New York is the real risk of meeting Donald Trump.”
He said that in a fairly jokey manner off-the-cuff to reporters after Trump had mithered on about areas of London and Birmingham being no-go areas for police; both parties are prone to flights of oratorical fancy which are followed by backpedalling, so they have something in common! “I would invite him to come and see the whole of London and take him round the city – except I wouldn’t want to expose any Londoners to any unnecessary risk of meeting Donald Trump.”
he also said: “The only reason I wouldn't visit some parts of New York is the real risk of meeting Donald Trump.”
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