Elon Musk and Pedo Cave Rescuer Claim.

Elon Musk and Pedo Cave Rescuer Claim.

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anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 17th July 2018
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Talksteer said:
If you fancy taking on a popular and wealthy US citizen for what will be a very small payout at the risk of being on the receiving end of a titanic legal bill go right ahead.
''False statements of fact'' that harm the reputation of an individual are not protected by the constitution. His popularity (debatable) and nationality are neither here nor there. Also; no win no fee.


Edited by anonymous-user on Tuesday 17th July 23:21

Talksteer

4,922 posts

234 months

Tuesday 17th July 2018
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TooMany2cvs said:
fblm said:
Using your logic Edison, arguably the world's greatest inventor, didn't invent anything after he invented the first industrial r&d lab (Menlo park).
No, Edison was consistently technically hands-on, not just a money-man flitting from hobby to hobby.
You are aware of what a chief engineer does?

Musk is technically competent and hands on to a much greater degree than any non owner/founder CEO of any major engineering company.

He's not just some hype merchant who gets the money and then throws the tasks at others. He actually is the chief product architect/CTO at the two companies.

The "Musk Method" (first principles thinking, testing and limited process) is very powerful because it is pretty simple. Both SpaceX and Tesla have been able to achieve technical feats which were previously considered to be far off because working to this method the two companies are basically ~2-3 times more effective at using its engineering resource than the legacy players.

The first few thousand employees in both establishments were personally interviewed by him, (I'm sure he asks more than one question about geometry) the organisational structures were therefore a reflection of his own methods.

But of course he was just some money man.......

Gibbo998

307 posts

113 months

Wednesday 18th July 2018
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Cold

15,266 posts

91 months

Wednesday 18th July 2018
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Talksteer said:
You are aware of what a chief engineer does?

Musk is technically competent and hands on to a much greater degree than any non owner/founder CEO of any major engineering company.

He's not just some hype merchant who gets the money and then throws the tasks at others. He actually is the chief product architect/CTO at the two companies.

The "Musk Method" (first principles thinking, testing and limited process) is very powerful because it is pretty simple. Both SpaceX and Tesla have been able to achieve technical feats which were previously considered to be far off because working to this method the two companies are basically ~2-3 times more effective at using its engineering resource than the legacy players.

The first few thousand employees in both establishments were personally interviewed by him, (I'm sure he asks more than one question about geometry) the organisational structures were therefore a reflection of his own methods.

But of course he was just some money man.......
Awww. That's really sweet.

poo at Paul's

14,187 posts

176 months

Wednesday 18th July 2018
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Seems like Musk has capitulated and offered an apology.
Oh dear.

alfaman

6,416 posts

235 months

Wednesday 18th July 2018
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poo at Paul's said:
Seems like Musk has capitulated and offered an apology.
Oh dear.
So that’s an admittance .... next step settle out of court...

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

127 months

Wednesday 18th July 2018
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poo at Paul's said:
Seems like Musk has capitulated and offered an apology.
Oh dear.
Nothing that I'm seeing on his ttter feed, or any of the main news sources.

But, even if he has, it's hardly unprompted.
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/jul/17...

poo at Paul's

14,187 posts

176 months

Wednesday 18th July 2018
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TooMany2cvs said:
poo at Paul's said:
Seems like Musk has capitulated and offered an apology.
Oh dear.
Nothing that I'm seeing on his ttter feed, or any of the main news sources.

But, even if he has, it's hardly unprompted.
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/jul/17...
It's on BBC, breaking news. Or news "Asia" .

poo at Paul's

14,187 posts

176 months

Wednesday 18th July 2018
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TooMany2cvs said:
poo at Paul's said:
Seems like Musk has capitulated and offered an apology.
Oh dear.
Nothing that I'm seeing on his ttter feed, or any of the main news sources.

But, even if he has, it's hardly unprompted.
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/jul/17...
It's on BBC, breaking news. Or news "Asia" .

Cold

15,266 posts

91 months

Wednesday 18th July 2018
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Musk said:
His actions against me do not justify my actions against him, and for that I apologize to Mr. Unsworth and to the companies I represent as leader. The fault is mine and mine alone.
Or, as they say in the playground: "Wahhh, he started it"

Reuters

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

127 months

Wednesday 18th July 2018
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poo at Paul's said:
TooMany2cvs said:
poo at Paul's said:
Seems like Musk has capitulated and offered an apology.
Oh dear.
Nothing that I'm seeing on his ttter feed, or any of the main news sources.

But, even if he has, it's hardly unprompted.
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/jul/17...
It's on BBC, breaking news. Or news "Asia" .
So 'tis now.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-44870303

Cold said:
Musk said:
His actions against me do not justify my actions against him, and for that I apologize to Mr. Unsworth and to the companies I represent as leader. The fault is mine and mine alone.
Or, as they say in the playground: "Wahhh, he started it"

Reuters
Bingo. Can't even apologise gracefully, ffs.

Vanden Saab

14,194 posts

75 months

Wednesday 18th July 2018
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He has, unbelievably, managed to make things worse if that were possible, by the nature of his apology. Oh dear indeed.

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 18th July 2018
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Vanden Saab said:
He has, unbelievably, managed to make things worse if that were possible, by the nature of his apology. Oh dear indeed.
Probably spent a few days seeing what dirt there was first.
I hope the chap gets a nice cheque.

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 18th July 2018
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Has he taken lessons from Trump in how to back-track?

It doesn't really work when you apologise and attack at the same time.

Jonesy23

4,650 posts

137 months

Wednesday 18th July 2018
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That is a truly terrible non-'apology'.

He even buried it as a reply to some random supporter of his tweeting an Astroturfing support article by some other random (who Elon probably commissioned to write it) rather than making a proper post. And then buried it in the middle of a load of retweets.

His army of Twitter sycophants may be lapping it up but no-one else will.




(See this for the start, then the replies https://twitter.com/adamchavez/status/101926849519... )

Jonesy23

4,650 posts

137 months

Wednesday 18th July 2018
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Note his total failure to withdraw his original accusations, while actually retweeting an article that attempts to support what he said.

Maybe next time he puts out a public apology he should chat to his lawyers first rather than managing to dig his hole deeper.

TriumphStag3.0V8

3,892 posts

82 months

Wednesday 18th July 2018
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Hmmmm, great apology :-( Love the cartoon though.

At the moment I would imagine that all the cave divers (and everyone else involved) is rightly lauded in Thailand. Musk attacking them like he has (and by extension smearing the country as a whole) must really be doing wonders for his own popularity there.

Idiot!

Vocal Minority

8,582 posts

153 months

Wednesday 18th July 2018
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The man is a text book narcissist.

The slightest hint of a criticism, or of people not fawning over him and he basically has a meltdown/tantrum. Especially when, frankly, the whole thing was cynically engineered PR.

Rockets or not - I haven't time for cry babies.


George Smiley

5,048 posts

82 months

Wednesday 18th July 2018
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Slightly separate from the thread, but whenever Elon does an Apple style presentation he comes across very awkward and not really the public face for confidence.

Gibbo998

307 posts

113 months

Wednesday 18th July 2018
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Vocal Minority said:
The man is a text book narcissist.

The slightest hint of a criticism, or of people not fawning over him and he basically has a meltdown/tantrum. Especially when, frankly, the whole thing was cynically engineered PR.

Who do you mean ? Trump or Muskrat ?