How do we think EU negotiations will go? (Vol 4)

[Mrr T]

citizensm1th said:

JagLover said:

bhstewie said:

The irony is that if the EU were proposing legislation to force member states to downgrade checks on food imports I think I can guess the reaction.

Couldn't make it up.

As far as I am aware we don't have any checks on food imports from the EU at present.

You only need health certificates and import licences for food products from outside the EU.

https://www.gov.uk/food-safety-as-a-food-distribut...

And when we leave the EU and want to send food in to the EU? and at the border with the EU when the food from the UK rolls off the ferry/train what do you think local customs officials will have to check that they do not at present?

Do not confuse brexiters with the idea the channel link may have 2 ends.

I very much like the idea on brexit the government will have to deploy troops to assist the civil authorities, and we will be in breach of WTO. What a success brexit will have been.

[sidicks]

PurpleMoonlight said:

Taking back control means not controlling at all.

Strange concept, but hey.

Looks like you've stooped to the level of mx5nut. How dull.

[bitchstewie]

PurpleMoonlight said:

Taking back control means not controlling at all.

Strange concept, but hey.

I think the basic principle is that if I'm told to jump off a cliff I'm not in control. If I choose to jump off a cliff I'm in control.

Either way the outcome isn't pleasant but with the latter I can be reassured I chose it.

[wc98]

Ghibli said:

I think that if the situation of food shortages did happen there would be a major panick and the shelve would become empty pretty quickly.

Christmas shopping would look like a holiday in comparison.

given what happened during the last strikes by fuel delivery drivers i think you are correct,though i personally don't think there will be food shortages however we end up leaving.

[crankedup]

jsf said:

crankedup said:

I believe most of the paper pulp comes from Russia, EU will be upset that they will not be stting on the U.K.

The Cushelle factory in Manchester gets half its paper from Sweden, the other half from Brazil. 2 grades are used, long and short fibre. Combining them both in layers provides the strength and softness required. The Swedish stuff provides the strength so that's on the inside, the Brazilian stuff provides the softness, so that's on the outside.

So worst case scenario we end up with softer bog roll, but you'd have to be careful how hard you used it.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0bcr3rj/ins...

Happy to be corrected.

So it’s unlikely that we will be short, which is comforting. Thoughts of going back to Izal grease proof from the 1950’s would be a nightmare scenario.

[PurpleMoonlight]

crankedup said:

Every single post from the so called remainers is filled with doom and gloom. Just over 40 short years of our Membership within a protectionist club has seen the U.K. being sucked in deeper to follow our rules. It simply has not worked for the majority of the U.K. electorate.
Amazing how remainers ignore the absolute mess the EU is in, you must know what I refer to.
And yet e pe t the U.K. to continue within a dying political experiment. Clearly, for me it’s worth a bit of short term pain for long term gain, it’s not simply money, although of course that is a major factor.
I hope that I will be around when the positives of our exit start bearing fruit.

What a coincidence.

I was just about to say that every post from leavers is filled with doom and gloom over the EU.

Funny old world huh.

[sidicks]

PurpleMoonlight said:

What a coincidence.

I was just about to say that every post from leavers is filled with doom and gloom over the EU.

Funny old world huh.

Good job you voted to stay in then. Oh...

[JagLover]

wc98 said:

PurpleMoonlight said:

Seems we have project fear mk2.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6003837/Pl...


Does anyone know how 'no deal' (no withdrawal agreement or trade agreement) is being reported in the EU27.

i remember similar claims in the lead up to the millennium.

A very good analogy as that was a real issue that was both overblown by the media but also very much mitigated by a great deal of work to fix all of crucial systems that might be affected.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-30576670

[Mrr T]

jsf said:

Mrr T said:

The EU is not cutting off supplies. The issue is imposing a customs border at the RoRo ports will inevitably cause delays which block flow. Thats a decision taken by the UK government at the insistence of a small percentage of the conservative party. The problem is team leave believe it fine to throw the UK economy off a cliff.

It will be fun seeing leave explain the largest turn down in the UK economy in living memory. Guess they will still blame remainers.

Worse than WW2, really?

You must be much older than I am. I would not regard WW2 as living memory, except for a very few.

[anonymous-user]

sidicks said:

PurpleMoonlight said:

Taking back control means not controlling at all.

Strange concept, but hey.

Looks like you've stooped to the level of mx5nut. How dull.

I really don't think that's fair.

Why can't anyone answer his point?

[anonymous-user]

don'tbesilly said:

Ghibli said:

don'tbesilly said:

PurpleMoonlight said:

don'tbesilly said:

If the French want to make it difficult for other EU countries to export their goods to the UK, then whilst it will hurt the UK, the impact on their (French] neighbours won't be well received will it?

France would be complying with EU law, as will ports in Holland, Spain, etc.

Again, if that's what the EU decide to do, so be it.

How does us wanting to be a third country become the EUs fault ?

Where did I say that?

What do you mean by

If the French want to make it difficult for other EU countries to export their goods to the UK,

[amusingduck]

PurpleMoonlight said:

amusingduck said:

Why do you keep making the same point? It feels like I've seen you say that at least 5 times.

What's so difficult to understand about it?

Five times in 15 months isn't bad.

This taking back control (oops) seems to rely a hell of a lot on others doing for us what we should be doing for ourselves.

I was being conservative

Let's say I'm in control of what you eat. I choose all of the meals. Wednesday is Fish & Chips day, which is great - you love fish & chips! Thursday and Friday however, are Frey Bentos, and Chicken Korma. You don't like Frey Bentos or Chicken Korma. You feel you'd be happier if you had control over your meals, so you take control back.

I pop in on a wednesday evening, and you're eating fking fish and chips! "What the fk are you doing PM, I thought you wanted control?!" I say. But the reason you wanted control wasn't the fish & chips, it was the Frey Bentos and Chicken Korma.

There's mushy peas everywhere. I warned you this would happen. Give me back control, we can go back to the Kormas. It's good for you

[don'tbesilly]

crankedup said:

jsf said:

crankedup said:

I believe most of the paper pulp comes from Russia, EU will be upset that they will not be stting on the U.K.

The Cushelle factory in Manchester gets half its paper from Sweden, the other half from Brazil. 2 grades are used, long and short fibre. Combining them both in layers provides the strength and softness required. The Swedish stuff provides the strength so that's on the inside, the Brazilian stuff provides the softness, so that's on the outside.

So worst case scenario we end up with softer bog roll, but you'd have to be careful how hard you used it.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0bcr3rj/ins...

Happy to be corrected.

So it’s unlikely that we will be short, which is comforting. Thoughts of going back to Izal grease proof from the 1950’s would be a nightmare scenario.

Crap for crap, sore on the cheeks.

It is medicated apparently, so does offer some benefit, although Anusol or Sudacrem might prove better.

[PurpleMoonlight]

sidicks said:

Good job you voted to stay in then. Oh...

Congratulations, only took you 9 pages.

[wc98]

ou sont les biscuits said:

You might want to have a read at this. It looks like 'no deal' might be a tad more worrying that Waitrose running out of premier cru.....

http://www.politics.co.uk/blogs/2018/07/27/this-is...

i understand there would be issues with our exports but why would we starve ourselves and bring about rioting etc by holding up food imports from the eu into the uk ?

[don'tbesilly]

Ghibli said:

don'tbesilly said:

Ghibli said:

don'tbesilly said:

PurpleMoonlight said:

don'tbesilly said:

If the French want to make it difficult for other EU countries to export their goods to the UK, then whilst it will hurt the UK, the impact on their (French] neighbours won't be well received will it?

France would be complying with EU law, as will ports in Holland, Spain, etc.

Again, if that's what the EU decide to do, so be it.

How does us wanting to be a third country become the EUs fault ?

Where did I say that?

What do you mean by

If the French want to make it difficult for other EU countries to export their goods to the UK,

You can't work it out?

Try going back in the thread, the relevant post was snipped and for a reason.

[crankedup]

Ghibli said:

don'tbesilly said:

PurpleMoonlight said:

don'tbesilly said:

If the French want to make it difficult for other EU countries to export their goods to the UK, then whilst it will hurt the UK, the impact on their (French] neighbours won't be well received will it?

France would be complying with EU law, as will ports in Holland, Spain, etc.

Again, if that's what the EU decide to do, so be it.

How does us wanting to be a third country become the EUs fault ?

Because the rules and regulations of the club became unpalatable to the electorate of the U.k.
More effort and compromise through our membership from the club may have seen an entirely different outcome to where we are at the moment For the U.K. wishing to become a third Country sends a message to the EU, the club is not functioning as ordinary people want.

[JagLover]

amusingduck said:

I was being conservative

Let's say I'm in control of what you eat. I choose all of the meals. Wednesday is Fish & Chips day, which is great - you love fish & chips! Thursday and Friday however, are Frey Bentos, and Chicken Korma. You don't like Frey Bentos or Chicken Korma. You feel you'd be happier if you had control over your meals, so you take control back.

I pop in on a wednesday evening, and you're eating fking fish and chips! "What the fk are you doing PM, I thought you wanted control?!" I say. But the reason you wanted control wasn't the fish & chips, it was the Frey Bentos and Chicken Korma.

There's mushy peas everywhere. I warned you this would happen. Give me back control, we can go back to the Kormas. It's good for you

What day is horse burger day?

[sidicks]

PurpleMoonlight said:

Congratulations, only took you 9 pages.

Do you want any congratulations for making nonsense comments about 'what Brexiters wanted'?

[don'tbesilly]

sidicks said:

PurpleMoonlight said:

What a coincidence.

I was just about to say that every post from leavers is filled with doom and gloom over the EU.

Funny old world huh.

Good job you voted to stay in then. Oh...