Traffic warden gets a kicking in Birmingham
Discussion
tannhauser said:
Both are scum, but for very different reasons.
So there's something about these guys that makes them somehow inherent scum, as opposed to nice "indigenous" scum, who are only scum through their actions?Scum like these...?
https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-new...
tannhauser said:
Let's not bury the issue - these particular scumbags are incompatible with our supposedly civilized ways
Perhaps you'd be so kind as to explain what you mean?tannhauser said:
so what are they doing here?!
Maybe they were born in this country. We don't know. All we know is that a 19yo and a 20yo have been charged, and the 20yo has been bailed.https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-4...
dudleybloke said:
Dindoit..... Why call me a racist for pointing out biological proof that inbreeding can cause higher levels of violence?
Does science not fit in with your blinkered views?
And I am willing to bet one weeks wages that the parents of the scum who attacked the traffic warden are first cousins.
Willing to take me up on the wager?
All of them? I’ll take you up on it. What’s your weekly “wage”?Does science not fit in with your blinkered views?
And I am willing to bet one weeks wages that the parents of the scum who attacked the traffic warden are first cousins.
Willing to take me up on the wager?
Jazzy Jag said:
I see the usual "immigrants and their decendents can do no wrong" brigade are out in force again.
So predictable. It must be nice to lead a blinkered, happy-clappy existence where everyone can be good friends. Unfortunately it is not the reality. These entities and their values, are barely any more developed than those of animals.Jazzy Jag said:
I see the usual "immigrants and their decendents can do no wrong" brigade are out in force again.
That's the thing.I imagine, to the vast majority of PHers, "they" are just an example of the scum that we sadly have throughout the country and their colour or ethnic background is irrelevant. I also imagine that a significant majority would be happy for the Police to taser them in the balls.
However to some it's far more important to suggest that they're immigrant (or "decendents" of immigrants). Ignoring the fact that we're all descendants of immigrants who really gives a flying f
k? You don't like immigrants? Fine. FFTFO. But don't use this as some kind of evidence to suggest your "views" are justified.amusingduck said:
Countdown said:
amusingduck said:
Life is full of inherent disadvantages. No doubt many billions would kill to be as inherently disadvantaged as those who live in the UK.
I think that anybody born in the UK today can reach the highest levels of any profession, regardless of their background. Not everybody can achieve that outcome, but everyone has that opportunity.
Only in the same way that a one-legged man has the opportunity to win the 100m Gold at the Olympics. Theroretically he has the opportunity/capability, however he has certain in-built disadvantages.I think that anybody born in the UK today can reach the highest levels of any profession, regardless of their background. Not everybody can achieve that outcome, but everyone has that opportunity.
The one-legged man does indeed have the same opportunity as everyone else. Though, he might find alternative careers less difficult. Regardless, if the one-legged man does push on with his sprinting career, he'll still be lapping the two-legged lazy gits sat at home
Hayek said:
amusingduck said:
Countdown said:
amusingduck said:
Life is full of inherent disadvantages. No doubt many billions would kill to be as inherently disadvantaged as those who live in the UK.
I think that anybody born in the UK today can reach the highest levels of any profession, regardless of their background. Not everybody can achieve that outcome, but everyone has that opportunity.
Only in the same way that a one-legged man has the opportunity to win the 100m Gold at the Olympics. Theroretically he has the opportunity/capability, however he has certain in-built disadvantages.I think that anybody born in the UK today can reach the highest levels of any profession, regardless of their background. Not everybody can achieve that outcome, but everyone has that opportunity.
The one-legged man does indeed have the same opportunity as everyone else. Though, he might find alternative careers less difficult. Regardless, if the one-legged man does push on with his sprinting career, he'll still be lapping the two-legged lazy gits sat at home
Dindoit said:
Most people in this country make no net financial contribution. You only ever, as usual, focus on immigrants (even when they aren’t immigrants).
It’s OK though. We see you.
Agreed.It’s OK though. We see you.
But having a past policy of bring in more people who don't make a contribution was madness.
Those that came to the country should be paying a fortune in tax and being far more useful than the average indigenous person. We have in fact brought in people who are even less of a benefit !
TooMany2cvs said:
del mar said:
I dont think it unreasonable to make immigrants pay or contribute to their costs.
Something like...?https://www.gov.uk/government/collections/nhs-visi...
del mar said:
Surely immigration and Economic migration has to be of some fiscal benefit to the host country ?
To make these people pay or contribute to their health and educational costs can only be a good think for the host country
It's called "tax".To make these people pay or contribute to their health and educational costs can only be a good think for the host country
del mar said:
I am not suggesting we refuse treatment to anybody, but if you cant contribute towards the cost of your healthcare and the education of your children, perhaps the UK is not the right place for you.
How is place of birth (or place of parents' birth) relevant to that?My ex-business partner was born in Germany. Would you call him a "first generation migrant", and extend your "second generation" strictures to his children?
Alpinestars said:
del mar said:
3rd is not unreasonable.
By then you have distanced yourself from the original decision maker to move to the UK, for free healthcare and education. 2nd generation children should be paid for / contributed to by their parents.
In which case your comment about immigrant toe rags is probably not correct. Can we call them British toe rags?By then you have distanced yourself from the original decision maker to move to the UK, for free healthcare and education. 2nd generation children should be paid for / contributed to by their parents.
You should also make a mental note of your rule when starting or replying about immigrants on other threads.
I change my rule to suit the point I am making at the time - you know that.
rscott said:
There's this wonderful thing out there called Google - took me 10 seconds to find https://www.gov.uk/guidance/nhs-entitlements-migra... .
That lays out exactly what immigrants are entitled to, including the immigration health surcharge for non-EEA nationals.
Or would you prefer details of the entitlements to benefits - https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/governmen... .
I knew you would be able to find it.That lays out exactly what immigrants are entitled to, including the immigration health surcharge for non-EEA nationals.
Or would you prefer details of the entitlements to benefits - https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/governmen... .
It still makes no reference to being a contributor, and the NHS surcharge is modest. School costs me £3500 a term they don't appear to be factoring that in anywhere.
I am semi confident I am at least 3rd generation....
Countdown said:
I imagine, to the vast majority of PHers, "they" are just an example of the scum that we sadly have throughout the country and their colour or ethnic background is irrelevant. I also imagine that a significant majority would be happy for the Police to taser them in the balls.
<nods vehemently>Hell, I'd be quite happy to use the taser myself.
Countdown said:
However to some it's far more important to suggest that they're immigrant (or "decendents" of immigrants).
Strange, isn't it?Countdown said:
Ignoring the fact that we're all descendants of immigrants...
NoooOOOO! INDIGENOUS, INNIT!del mar said:
TooMany2cvs said:
del mar said:
Surely immigration and Economic migration has to be of some fiscal benefit to the host country ?
To make these people pay or contribute to their health and educational costs can only be a good think for the host country
It's called "tax".To make these people pay or contribute to their health and educational costs can only be a good think for the host country
TooMany2cvs said:
My ex-business partner was born in Germany. Would you call him a "first generation migrant", and extend your "second generation" strictures to his children?
We're all waiting, y'know.
OK, let's try an easier one. Let's take an example of a woman in her 70s, born in India to a father born in what's now Pakistan, but who arrived here as a child and was educated here. "Migrant" to be refused everything, and children to be treated as second-class?
<drums fingers on desk impatiently>
Alpinestars said:
del mar said:
You can tell that much about the parents and grandparents just by looking at a picture of them ?
I change my rule to suit the point I am making at the time - you know that.
It’s based on the same evidence you have. Amazing what information you can glean by just looking at people isn’t it. I change my rule to suit the point I am making at the time - you know that.
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Edited by dinosaur.mod on Monday 17th September 21:27
del mar said:
I knew you would be able to find it.
It still makes no reference to being a contributor, and the NHS surcharge is modest. School costs me £3500 a term they don't appear to be factoring that in anywhere.
I am semi confident I am at least 3rd generation....
Only 3rd? I can go back at least 8 before there's any foreign blood in there.. so I expect you to pull over should you ever be in front of me on the road.It still makes no reference to being a contributor, and the NHS surcharge is modest. School costs me £3500 a term they don't appear to be factoring that in anywhere.
I am semi confident I am at least 3rd generation....
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