Police Officer killed on duty
Discussion
fatboy18 said:
Vaud said:
fatboy18 said:
Which would mean tax payers shedding out more money's when our prisons are full and scumbags are let out early so that other scumbags can take their place. And then many re-offend.
There is no respect, there is no deterrent!
Terrorism and Killing a police officer should be a capital offence.
No if's no but's.
Your life ends here sunshine.
It's not a deterrent. See the US.There is no respect, there is no deterrent!
Terrorism and Killing a police officer should be a capital offence.
No if's no but's.
Your life ends here sunshine.
Edited by fatboy18 on Friday 16th August 21:22
Brooking10 said:
And what laws aren’t they subject to ?
I've recently provided my MP, at his request, with a list of the crimes known (as in seen and recorded by residents) committed by those known as travellers in our fairly small village. The bulleted list runs to almost a full side of A4.Whilst this case may be dealt with using the full force of the law, regardless of which societal group the perpetrators belong to, it is a fact that the constant ability of travellers to live almost exclusively outside the law needs addressing at a root and branch level. We had a senior police officer (Chief Inspector, I think) address the village recently and it was clear that he had not the first idea about the level of traveller crime being committed; largely, I suspect, because his officers never, ever intervene, at least not in our village.
Edited by CAPP0 on Friday 16th August 23:06
CAPP0 said:
Brooking10 said:
And what laws aren’t they subject to ?
I've recently provided my MP, at his request, with a list of the crimes known (as in seen and recorded by residents) committed by those known as travellers in our fairly small village. The bulleted list runs to almost a full side of A4.Whilst this case may be dealt with using the full force of the law, regardless of which societal group the perpetrators belong to, it is a fact that the constant ability of travellers to live almost exclusively outside the law needs addressing at a root and branch level. We had a senior police officer (Chief Inspector, I think) address the village recently and it was clear that he had not the first idea about the level of traveller crime being committed; largely, I suspect, because his officers never, ever intervene, at least not in our village.
Edited by anonymous-user on Friday 16th August 23:06
The point I was trying to make is that nobody is immune from the law, the issue is more about why / how it is difficult to prosecute that law in certain instances. La Liga and Red 4 have given some insight into that earlier in the thread.
Your story is perhaps a microcosm of the above given that it suggests junior officers not intervening for reasons undetermined as opposed to senior level lawmakers/upholders affording some kind of mythical protection to travellers.
mac96 said:
Brooking10 said:
La Liga said:
Brooking10 said:
I assume start the reason Police don't investigate gypsy related crime is largely because of low manpower allied to low probability of securing convictions versus their target driven politically decided targets not because of some concerted campaign about "rights".
They're the most disproportionately over-represented group in prison. Not sure where 'don't investigate gypsy related crime' comes from given that.
I had assume that stuff like tax investigations, B&E on unused land etc was simply too difficult / time consuming to secure convictions on.
Your stat though further underlines the point that whilst it makes for good frothing the "they're protected by do gooders" is patently b
ks.And there are other factors- perhaps they are less likely to pay fines/comply with non custodial punishments, so more likely to end up in prison?
Not meant to be a dig- I am genuinely curious.
Even then there are the issues with recorded crime.
I expect it's a reflection of them committing a disproportionate amount of crime, just as a disproportionate number of black males within the criminal justice system is a reflection of black males committing a disproportionate amount of crime.
In the main I raise that point is when the keyboard warriors, whose confrontational experience probably consists of angry emails, write things like "the police are scared of them" etc.
Pothole said:
W12GT said:
- prisons cost lots of money whether they are full or not as they have to be staffed as if fully occupied.
Except few of them are.Under staffed, overcrowded and has seen massive cuts under The Tories.
Violence, drug abuse, self harm and suicide are common place.
Figures for all of the above have increased dramatically since 2008/09.whilst the prison population has fallen slightly since 08/09.
There was a big recruitment drive for Prison Officers recently in an attempt to reverse the impact of the cuts - but lots of experienced POs have left the service and lots of staff are relatively new and inexperienced.
Oh, and generally they smell bad ( the prisons, not the staff
).Edited by Red 4 on Saturday 17th August 00:06
Pothole said:
W12GT said:
- prisons cost lots of money whether they are full or not as they have to be staffed as if fully occupied.
Except few of them are.W12GT said:
Pothole said:
W12GT said:
- prisons cost lots of money whether they are full or not as they have to be staffed as if fully occupied.
Except few of them are.Staffed, not occupied. They're over stuffed and under staffed is what I meant.
W12GT said:
There are approx 83k prisons in the uk at present. There is only capacity for approx 75k so over popuby circa 8k. Hence why there are so many getting suspended sentences or being released early. We probably need another 25k-60k to cater for a real crackdown.
What you want and what you get are 2 entirely different things.Just like Boris promising to open a new box of Police Officers and be tough on crime.
Contrary to what you may think The Tories are not the party of law and order they would have you believe.
Although I have no love for Labour, they have historically spent more in this area and police numbers (generally) increased when they were in power.
A fair amount of detail on telegraph:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/08/16/reveal...
The bloodstains from the dragging down the lane is a pretty awful image.
Looks like the police landed in force on Four Houses Corner traveller site as a direct response.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/08/16/reveal...
The bloodstains from the dragging down the lane is a pretty awful image.
Looks like the police landed in force on Four Houses Corner traveller site as a direct response.
ReallyReallyGood said:
If it proves not to be travellers this thread is going to look a bit foolish.
Several media sources said:
Witnesses reported seeing a 'huge police presence' at the well-known traveller site of Burghfield Common today, about two miles from where PC Harper died, and officers were seen blocking entrance to the site.
or perhaps you are? Who else takes their 13yo burgling, Bill Sykes.
I would think it was quite possible that the police just arrested every male on the site who was capable of reaching the pedals of a car and see if one of them caves in and lets them know who actually did. When they know they have gone too far isn’t the usual drill for the men on these sites to have “left for a horse sale’” or “gone to a funeral in Ireland,”?
My thoughts are with the PC and his family. In all the pictures he looks like such a happy guy, looks like he’d found the love of his life. And to die like that?
Humanity is fked. 
My thoughts are with the PC and his family. In all the pictures he looks like such a happy guy, looks like he’d found the love of his life. And to die like that?
Humanity is f
ked. 9.3 said:
98elise said:
It's not a travellers site according to the BBC, it's a "caravan site".
One absolutely despairs of the BBC and their woke agenda. Yup, it’d be those damned Caravan Club members up to it again ...... If indeed the travellers are responsible, I hope they rot in hell.
Incidentally, how on earth can they be referred to as 'travellers' when apparently the council run site in question has been there for 50 years?
Scum.
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