Should the BBC be privatised?

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onomatopoeia

3,472 posts

219 months

Tuesday 29th June 2010
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Fittster said:
Has the licence changed?
Failure to pay the TV licence is not an imprisonable offence, unless you know different. Even the 16 year old article you quoted does not say that it is.

Fittster

20,120 posts

215 months

Tuesday 29th June 2010
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onomatopoeia said:
Fittster said:
Has the licence changed?
Failure to pay the TV licence is not an imprisonable offence, unless you know different. Even the 16 year old article you quoted does not say that it is.
And what happens if you don't pay the licence what is the ultimate consequence?

elster

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212 months

Tuesday 29th June 2010
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Eric Mc

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Tuesday 29th June 2010
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Fittster

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Tuesday 29th June 2010
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F i F

44,319 posts

253 months

Tuesday 29th June 2010
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Just got to the end of the thread when the Wimbledon ump announced "new balls please" which was somewhat ironic.

2010 Reith Lectures delivered by Martin Rees President of Royal Sorcerors, also ironic, also required new balls please.

onomatopoeia

3,472 posts

219 months

Tuesday 29th June 2010
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Fittster said:
onomatopoeia said:
Fittster said:
Has the licence changed?
Failure to pay the TV licence is not an imprisonable offence, unless you know different. Even the 16 year old article you quoted does not say that it is.
And what happens if you don't pay the licence what is the ultimate consequence?
You are fined by the court. There are no other sentencing options available to the judge / magistrate for the offence of not paying for the TV licence AFAIK.


While you didn't ask about it, if you do not pay any fine imposed by a court it is likely the judge will imprison you (not sure what for - contempt?) It would be a bad day indeed if people could ignore fines imposed by courts.

Eric Mc

122,235 posts

267 months

Tuesday 29th June 2010
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Delia's cakes are lovely.

Much nicer than Channel 4 cakes.

Eric Mc

122,235 posts

267 months

Tuesday 29th June 2010
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History Channel cakes are always a bit stale.

Discovery Channel cakes have WAY too many chemicals and e-numbers.

National Geographic cakes are likely to expand too much and eventually reach the limits of the known universe. Alternatively they may shrink so nuch when taken out of the oven that they can collapse into a mini-black hole.


Edited by Eric Mc on Tuesday 29th June 16:08

Eric Mc

122,235 posts

267 months

Tuesday 29th June 2010
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QVC only does "fairy cakes".

tinman0

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242 months

Tuesday 29th June 2010
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grumbledoak

31,589 posts

235 months

Tuesday 29th June 2010
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tinman0 said:
Seriously. Tell me another joke.
Indeed. The envy of the World that not a single other country has tried to copy. rolleyes

DWP

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217 months

Tuesday 29th June 2010
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Eric Mc

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267 months

Tuesday 29th June 2010
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grumbledoak said:
tinman0 said:
Seriously. Tell me another joke.
Indeed. The envy of the World that not a single other country has tried to copy. rolleyes
Are you SURE about that statement?

turbobloke

104,365 posts

262 months

Tuesday 29th June 2010
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TuxRacer said:
Parrot of Doom said:
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Parrot of Doom said:
I don't watch ITV but still have to pay for the thing, every single time I visit the supermarket.
Other supermarkets are available. Ones which don't pay for ITV.
Really. Around me are Asda, Tesco, Sainsbury and Marks & Spencer. All advertise on television.

And what do those supermarkets sell?
Buckets of facetiousness apparently.
Apparently.

Alternatives to supermarkets that advertise on TV include local produce from local shops, grow your own - all sorts of options that do not result from an enforced action after a free choice, but derive from an equally free choice.

Not that this is comparable in the first place.

Analogies that try to excuse the biased broadcasting communists and their legalised licence fee extortion always fail. What other instance is there when a free choice to avail yourself of a free at point of receipt service option causes you to be put under the frighteners for a large fine if you then don't cough up for a service you don't want and would not have a problem with never using again?

The failings of the BBC are obvious and appalling and cannot be excused by anything else as these failings are so fundamental.

Halb

53,012 posts

185 months

Tuesday 29th June 2010
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Fittster said:
thinfourth2 said:
If the beeb is so terrible then where is the commercial version of Question time?
Where is the UK commercials version of the high quality programs produced by the US channel HBO?

They don't exist because the tax that we are forced to pay makes the BBC so dominate in the market it prevents the commercial sector flourishing within the UK. For example does any newspaper stand a chance with it's website if the BBC can lavish huge amounts of taxpayers cash at its own service??
They don'y exist because our market is too small. The UK market cannot support something like HBO. HBO has had an abundance of top level drama in the past ten years, Sky had a joint venture with Sci-fi to make BSG mini series but mostly churn out stuf like Dream Team.

thinfourth2

32,414 posts

206 months

Tuesday 29th June 2010
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Halb said:
Fittster said:
thinfourth2 said:
If the beeb is so terrible then where is the commercial version of Question time?
Where is the UK commercials version of the high quality programs produced by the US channel HBO?

They don't exist because the tax that we are forced to pay makes the BBC so dominate in the market it prevents the commercial sector flourishing within the UK. For example does any newspaper stand a chance with it's website if the BBC can lavish huge amounts of taxpayers cash at its own service??
They don'y exist because our market is too small.
So how will privatising the beeb lead to better political programming?

As that is the main complaint is the left leaning bias which personally i don't see as i don't watch BBC news i do listen to radio 4 which seems pretty balanced


The other main complaint is the cost which is simple

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ptj2qKIswLw


As lets face it the content is 90% st and 10% remaining i am happy to pay for

Halb

53,012 posts

185 months

Tuesday 29th June 2010
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thinfourth2 said:
Halb said:
Fittster said:
thinfourth2 said:
If the beeb is so terrible then where is the commercial version of Question time?
Where is the UK commercials version of the high quality programs produced by the US channel HBO?

They don't exist because the tax that we are forced to pay makes the BBC so dominate in the market it prevents the commercial sector flourishing within the UK. For example does any newspaper stand a chance with it's website if the BBC can lavish huge amounts of taxpayers cash at its own service??
They don'y exist because our market is too small.
So how will privatising the beeb lead to better political programming?
Me personally. I don't know if it would...if I had to bet, I would bet that it would not.
I was referring to drama/comedy. I think the quality of these would go down, markedly.

purplepolarbear

474 posts

176 months

Tuesday 29th June 2010
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The BBC's motto is to inform, educate and entertain. It should inform and educate (maybe on one channel paid for out of the education budget, and a decision to pay for this should be compared against other forms of education, e.g. providing adult education courses at colleges). If I want to watch entertainment programmes (many of which are excellent), I should be able to choose to subscribe or pay on demand for the programmes I want to watch.

thinfourth2

32,414 posts

206 months

Tuesday 29th June 2010
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purplepolarbear said:
The BBC's motto is to inform, educate and entertain. It should inform and educate (maybe on one channel paid for out of the education budget, and a decision to pay for this should be compared against other forms of education, e.g. providing adult education courses at colleges). If I want to watch entertainment programmes (many of which are excellent), I should be able to choose to subscribe or pay on demand for the programmes I want to watch.
In an ideal world i would only pay for what i want to watch

Sadly what i want to watch is only enjoyed by a minority so the programs i enjoy would vanish and would be replaced by crap which morons want to watch and are cheap and easy to make.

So i will keep paying the license fee 90% of which goes on crap and 10% of which is quality