If you don't want Tesco's
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Lost soul said:
Who is to blame ? people who do not look at the prices on 2 for 1 deals or Tesco for trying it on 
I think you can guess where i fall on this one..
Tesco's are to blame.Same as asking if a woman dressed provocatively is asking to be and deserves to be raped???
The point i was making however is they are all very clearly i think the word is unethical and greedy and if put in a position where they can get away with making max profit they will do.
The bigger and more powerful they get the more at risk we all are from being stuck in a position where we cant get away from having to pay what is dictated instead of a fair price.
Tallbut Buxomly said:
fergywales said:
That wouldn't be very sensationalist though, would it? 
As has been shown in numerous watchdog and other reviews (and its not exclusive to tesco's) they do put their prices up through very clever marketing such as the small two for one deals that are more expensive than if you simply buy one larger item etc.They have been shown to very closely skirt false advertising rules in sales to maximise profit. If they could find a way to charge more for less you can bet your life they will.
Excuse me, all those criticising profit maximisation, where do you work?
For employers who tell you to "Let's not try to make as much as we can"?
If for yourself, either solo or owning a business employing others, do you consider your competitors and try to ensure you don't put them out of business?
Or, is all the idealism coming from those employed in the Public Sector?
For employers who tell you to "Let's not try to make as much as we can"?
If for yourself, either solo or owning a business employing others, do you consider your competitors and try to ensure you don't put them out of business?
Or, is all the idealism coming from those employed in the Public Sector?
I have been watching this and just have to post.
Tesco and Sainsbury are both asking for permission to build stores in the next Village (big but not town), Bourne End near High Wycombe. There are already 2 co-ops (one was a morrisons before take over).
We do not need them. At all.
Why do they need to force themselves on villages.
Marlow has just had Waitrose displaced by a sh**ty Sainsburys when they already have a "metro" that is is not used and Waitrose now in smaller site. Does Marlow need a Sainsburys? (NO, if you know the area)
F'ing hate Tesco. Actually dont mind Asda as they stick to bigger stores (people were worried about Walmart takover but seems they have stayed the same.)
We do not need a Tesco on every corner.
Tesco and Sainsbury are both asking for permission to build stores in the next Village (big but not town), Bourne End near High Wycombe. There are already 2 co-ops (one was a morrisons before take over).
We do not need them. At all.
Why do they need to force themselves on villages.
Marlow has just had Waitrose displaced by a sh**ty Sainsburys when they already have a "metro" that is is not used and Waitrose now in smaller site. Does Marlow need a Sainsburys? (NO, if you know the area)
F'ing hate Tesco. Actually dont mind Asda as they stick to bigger stores (people were worried about Walmart takover but seems they have stayed the same.)
We do not need a Tesco on every corner.
WhoseGeneration said:
Excuse me, all those criticising profit maximisation, where do you work?
For employers who tell you to "Let's not try to make as much as we can"?
If for yourself, either solo or owning a business employing others, do you consider your competitors and try to ensure you don't put them out of business?
Or, is all the idealism coming from those employed in the Public Sector?
I am self employed. I do quite well for myself and yet astonishingly i dont rip my customer off at all. Why is this you may ask?? Well that is because i provide them with a great service at a reasonable price that is why. I dont find myself being in a position where i have to try rip them off.For employers who tell you to "Let's not try to make as much as we can"?
If for yourself, either solo or owning a business employing others, do you consider your competitors and try to ensure you don't put them out of business?
Or, is all the idealism coming from those employed in the Public Sector?
As an aside my father used to have three companies all were at the top end in terms of pricing in his region yet his customers were fiercely loyal to him for the same reason. He supplied a service second to none.
You dont need to screw people over to make a profit. it just shows you as being either at best greedy and at worst inept at business management.
Tallbut Buxomly said:
I am self employed. I do quite well for myself and yet astonishingly i dont rip my customer off at all. Why is this you may ask?? Well that is because i provide them with a great service at a reasonable price that is why. I dont find myself being in a position where i have to try rip them off.
As an aside my father used to have three companies all were at the top end in terms of pricing in his region yet his customers were fiercely loyal to him for the same reason. He supplied a service second to none.
You dont need to screw people over to make a profit. it just shows you as being either at best greedy and at worst inept at business management.
All you have described, for yourself and your father, is deals, where both sides are satisfied.As an aside my father used to have three companies all were at the top end in terms of pricing in his region yet his customers were fiercely loyal to him for the same reason. He supplied a service second to none.
You dont need to screw people over to make a profit. it just shows you as being either at best greedy and at worst inept at business management.
That is what deals mean.
Tesco customers, presumably, feel the same.
WhoseGeneration said:
All you have described, for yourself and your father, is deals, where both sides are satisfied.
That is what deals mean.
Tesco customers, presumably, feel the same.
The fact that their customers live in a world of ignorance, laziness (and in certain circumstances serious budget constraints) doesnt mean that what tescos and the other 3/4 huge chains do is right.That is what deals mean.
Tesco customers, presumably, feel the same.
That is my big issue. Just because you CAN make a huge profit by screwing over your customer your suppliers and the local smaller stores doesnt mean you HAVE to. I am no bleeding heart but i still believe in a degree of being ethical.
fergywales said:
Oooookay! That makes you sound like a petulent child, but hey-ho.
So, for balance of argument, could you explain to me the systems and processes directly attributed to a small, independent retailer for the following areas:
So, for balance of argument, could you explain to me the systems and processes directly attributed to a small, independent retailer for the following areas:
- Area Management The owner will normally be the manager
- Procurement The owner or a senior member of staff will order
- Marketing They wont have a marketing dept thats true.It will most likely be run by the store owner/manager
- Accounting Generally they will have an accountant or two depending on size
- Merchandising Will be done by manager and most staff unless one of the big small chains
- Legal They will have a legal firm represent them
- Distribution centre Distribution will be managed by suppliers
- Maintenance Local companies will be paid to do maintenance
Tallbut Buxomly said:
The fact that their customers live in a world of ignorance, laziness (and in certain circumstances serious budget constraints) doesnt mean that what tescos and the other 3/4 huge chains do is right.
That is my big issue. Just because you CAN make a huge profit by screwing over your customer your suppliers and the local smaller stores doesnt mean you HAVE to. I am no bleeding heart but i still believe in a degree of being ethical.
Do you understand what being a company owned by shareholders means?That is my big issue. Just because you CAN make a huge profit by screwing over your customer your suppliers and the local smaller stores doesnt mean you HAVE to. I am no bleeding heart but i still believe in a degree of being ethical.
Ethics are not involved.
colonel c said:
I think at that point you should have included some sort of proof to validate your statement.
As i can't be arsed to get my buiness books out, her is an internet quote.quote buiness -website www.heluim.com
'Another example of a recent monopoly was by the Pfizer Company, the creators of the Viagra pill. Because they were the creators and there was no other pill like it available, they became a monopoly for a product that was in high demand. The Pfizer Company was able to dictate how much they could charge for the product giving the consumers no choice but to pay for it. This is what's called an incidental monopoly. Eventually more similar products from other companies were made available, ending this monopoly''
Common sense dictates that any monopoly in a marker place allows the business to dictate prices, and therefore generally seen as products being more expensive..
I appreciate this is a single product but as soon with the way supermarkets dictate the price to producers, less competitive markets, i.e smaller shops eventually end up not being able to compete with the grater buyer power Tesco has on the market.
WhoseGeneration said:
Do you understand what being a company owned by shareholders means?
Ethics are not involved.
I understand that and its yet another disappointment. I cant get my head around the idea that you have to be unethical just to maximise profit for shareholders.Ethics are not involved.
Its one of the reasons that if ever i had a multimillion dollar company i would do all in my power to avoid being in a position where i would have to have shareholders.
glazbagun said:
Indeed proving they feel the majority of their customers are complete chumps who they can fleece blind.Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff