£7.50p a pint. That’s it I’m out
Discussion
Lord Marylebone said:
eldar said:
Speaking of water, beer is getting weaker and waterier….
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2023/06/18/dr...
Good.https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2023/06/18/dr...
I much prefer to drink 3-4% beers/ales as I get to enjoy drinking more of them without getting drunk and then suffering a hangover.
‘Session ales’ of lower ABV have been around for centuries, right back to the traditional ‘Small Beers’ of the 1700’s containing around 1-3% ABV.
It is a relatively recent (50 years) idea that higher alcohol levels in beer were to be considered ‘premium’.
ambuletz said:
the weaker it gets the crapper it is imo. i remember when i first started driinking in uni during the mid-00s and stella was 5.6% (or maybe 5.8?) and it tasted better then. makes me miss it a little whenever i watch old episodes of 2pints of lager and a packet of crisps or men behaving badly
5.2% originally, but all of it and drank stronger than that!tamore said:
eldar said:
If that could translate to a pub price of £3.50 then you’d certainly hope so. Expensive mortgages are just going to suck up more disposable income.
definitely. as a brewery owner, it's looking bleak.Over the years beer has become more expensive and whisky relatively cheaper, the ratio now being 1:3/1:4. What you drink now is much less an indicator of class than it was.
Beer may be more expensive in pubs but it's still cheap in the shops.
When I started drinking the pub was always the cheapest place to drink, in off-licences it was always a penny or two dearer (and 2p deposit on the bottle). Now i can buy Stella for £1 a pint in Aldi but in a pub it's gonna be £5. That's a hell of a difference and please dont harp on about paying for the welcoming ambience of ye old village inn, cos youll pay that in a sticky carpet dive full of nutters.
Just what has happened to pubs in the last 50 years that makes them think they're the bloody Ritz?
When I started drinking the pub was always the cheapest place to drink, in off-licences it was always a penny or two dearer (and 2p deposit on the bottle). Now i can buy Stella for £1 a pint in Aldi but in a pub it's gonna be £5. That's a hell of a difference and please dont harp on about paying for the welcoming ambience of ye old village inn, cos youll pay that in a sticky carpet dive full of nutters.
Just what has happened to pubs in the last 50 years that makes them think they're the bloody Ritz?
konark said:
Beer may be more expensive in pubs but it's still cheap in the shops.
When I started drinking the pub was always the cheapest place to drink, in off-licences it was always a penny or two dearer (and 2p deposit on the bottle). Now i can buy Stella for £1 a pint in Aldi but in a pub it's gonna be £5. That's a hell of a difference and please dont harp on about paying for the welcoming ambience of ye old village inn, cos youll pay that in a sticky carpet dive full of nutters.
Just what has happened to pubs in the last 50 years that makes them think they're the bloody Ritz?
I think it is what is called 'a vicious circle'.When I started drinking the pub was always the cheapest place to drink, in off-licences it was always a penny or two dearer (and 2p deposit on the bottle). Now i can buy Stella for £1 a pint in Aldi but in a pub it's gonna be £5. That's a hell of a difference and please dont harp on about paying for the welcoming ambience of ye old village inn, cos youll pay that in a sticky carpet dive full of nutters.
Just what has happened to pubs in the last 50 years that makes them think they're the bloody Ritz?
Pubs are quieter because fewer people spend several nights a week in the pub.
Pubs have to put up prices to make up for the shortfall.
Fewer people go because it's too expensive.
Pubs close Monday to Thursday lunchtime, because it's too quiet.
Pubs have to put up their prices because fewer people are going in there, but the rent and rates are still the same.
Fewer people go in the pub because they've put their prices up again.
Rinse and repeat.
Tell me I am wrong.
The ones who seem to make it work round here (Surrey) are the gastro pubs who work on a strict schedule "your table is booked for you at 12.00, we would like you to vacate the table by 2p.m."
The Mad Monk said:
I think it is what is called 'a vicious circle'.
Pubs are quieter because fewer people spend several nights a week in the pub.
Pubs have to put up prices to make up for the shortfall.
Fewer people go because it's too expensive.
Pubs close Monday to Thursday lunchtime, because it's too quiet.
Pubs have to put up their prices because fewer people are going in there, but the rent and rates are still the same.
Fewer people go in the pub because they've put their prices up again.
Rinse and repeat.
Tell me I am wrong.
The ones who seem to make it work round here (Surrey) are the gastro pubs who work on a strict schedule "your table is booked for you at 12.00, we would like you to vacate the table by 2p.m."
Anyone who hasn't learned that you can't make a business work by gouging a diminishing customer base only has themselves to blame.Pubs are quieter because fewer people spend several nights a week in the pub.
Pubs have to put up prices to make up for the shortfall.
Fewer people go because it's too expensive.
Pubs close Monday to Thursday lunchtime, because it's too quiet.
Pubs have to put up their prices because fewer people are going in there, but the rent and rates are still the same.
Fewer people go in the pub because they've put their prices up again.
Rinse and repeat.
Tell me I am wrong.
The ones who seem to make it work round here (Surrey) are the gastro pubs who work on a strict schedule "your table is booked for you at 12.00, we would like you to vacate the table by 2p.m."
okgo said:
Haha. Used to be a regular in the King Charles. Revolting little place opposite a gay peep show. Was pitch black in the pub even on a summers day. Would let you bring in food from the Thai over the road. Great stuff.
First time in there (pub) for me - found it as it promised decent beer (that was a stretch) & was close to Kings X - true.Tiny place, smallest bog I've been in, in a pub for a while.
No sign of a peep show - another (former) pub opposite that looked quite empty, but appears to be a mosque, might've once been it's home though.
okgo said:
The area has sadly cleaned its act up a fair bit in recent years. Would have been a decade ago I was in there. Even then KX was still quite rough and ready vs the shiny thing it is now.
There are still a few places - the Cock Tavern around the back is still, err, authentic.snuffy said:
eldar said:
snuffy said:
What size is it ? Is that for a pint ?
US pint, 80% of a UK pint - 16 fluid ounces vs 20. okgo said:
The area has sadly cleaned its act up a fair bit in recent years. Would have been a decade ago I was in there. Even then KX was still quite rough and ready vs the shiny thing it is now.
I generally have no reason to go anywhere near Kings X, but it was interesting yesterday walking about as it's certainly much tidier (and more boring) than in the past (unsurprisingly). Lord Marylebone said:
Good.
I much prefer to drink 3-4% beers/ales as I get to enjoy drinking more of them without getting drunk and then suffering a hangover.
‘Session ales’ of lower ABV have been around for centuries, right back to the traditional ‘Small Beers’ of the 1700’s containing around 1-3% ABV.
It is a relatively recent (50 years) idea that higher alcohol levels in beer were to be considered ‘premium’.
Slightly OT, but we did a brewery tour at Old Luxtors a couple of months ago, and when introducing their "Session Ale" we got a bit of back story to them deciding to brew it, along with the phrase "Any ale can be a session ale, it's just some sessions are shorter than others". I much prefer to drink 3-4% beers/ales as I get to enjoy drinking more of them without getting drunk and then suffering a hangover.
‘Session ales’ of lower ABV have been around for centuries, right back to the traditional ‘Small Beers’ of the 1700’s containing around 1-3% ABV.
It is a relatively recent (50 years) idea that higher alcohol levels in beer were to be considered ‘premium’.
Tickled me anyway...
bodhi said:
Lord Marylebone said:
Good.
I much prefer to drink 3-4% beers/ales as I get to enjoy drinking more of them without getting drunk and then suffering a hangover.
‘Session ales’ of lower ABV have been around for centuries, right back to the traditional ‘Small Beers’ of the 1700’s containing around 1-3% ABV.
It is a relatively recent (50 years) idea that higher alcohol levels in beer were to be considered ‘premium’.
Slightly OT, but we did a brewery tour at Old Luxtors a couple of months ago, and when introducing their "Session Ale" we got a bit of back story to them deciding to brew it, along with the phrase "Any ale can be a session ale, it's just some sessions are shorter than others". I much prefer to drink 3-4% beers/ales as I get to enjoy drinking more of them without getting drunk and then suffering a hangover.
‘Session ales’ of lower ABV have been around for centuries, right back to the traditional ‘Small Beers’ of the 1700’s containing around 1-3% ABV.
It is a relatively recent (50 years) idea that higher alcohol levels in beer were to be considered ‘premium’.
Tickled me anyway...
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