The 'Bladerunners' are right

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C70R

17,596 posts

106 months

Saturday 11th November 2023
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Timothy Bucktu said:
Pan Pan Pan said:
Surely the big question must be ` Who is it in London, who keeps voting for Sadiq Khan?
If you look at some of Khan's Twitter feed, and look at the replies, and look at the names...you don't have to be inspector Clouseau to work it out.
Could you elaborate for us? Are they all called Jacinta and Tarquin? Or are you suggesting something more insidious?

bad company

18,770 posts

268 months

Saturday 11th November 2023
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Timothy Bucktu said:
Pan Pan Pan said:
Surely the big question must be ` Who is it in London, who keeps voting for Sadiq Khan?
If you look at some of Khan's Twitter feed, and look at the replies, and look at the names...you don't have to be inspector Clouseau to work it out.
In most of the poorer areas of London you could a red Labour rosette on a dog and they’d vote for it.

Otherwise someone like Diane Abbott wouldn’t have been elected.

valiant

10,453 posts

162 months

Saturday 11th November 2023
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bad company said:
In most of the poorer areas of London you could a red Labour rosette on a dog and they’d vote for it.

Otherwise someone like Diane Abbott wouldn’t have been elected.
I used to live in Hackney back in the day and she was my MP.

As a constituency MP she was very good and fought for the people of Hackney which at the time was, I think, one of the most deprived boroughs in the whole of the U.K.

Her health, mental and physical, seems to be failing her now and she should have retired a while back and yep, she has no place on the front bench (shadow or otherwise) but as a local MP, she was pretty good and was as sharp as a tack.

As for the rosette thing, that can be labelled all over the country regardless of its colour.


bad company

18,770 posts

268 months

Saturday 11th November 2023
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valiant said:
bad company said:
In most of the poorer areas of London you could a red Labour rosette on a dog and they’d vote for it.

Otherwise someone like Diane Abbott wouldn’t have been elected.
I used to live in Hackney back in the day and she was my MP.

As a constituency MP she was very good and fought for the people of Hackney which at the time was, I think, one of the most deprived boroughs in the whole of the U.K.

Her health, mental and physical, seems to be failing her now and she should have retired a while back and yep, she has no place on the front bench (shadow or otherwise) but as a local MP, she was pretty good and was as sharp as a tack.

As for the rosette thing, that can be labelled all over the country regardless of its colour.
You clearly know her much better than I. I’ve watched and listened to her on tv & radio, the Nick Ferrari interview stands out. To put it mildly she doesn’t come across well.

C70R

17,596 posts

106 months

Saturday 11th November 2023
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bad company said:
In most of the poorer areas of London you could a red Labour rosette on a dog and they’d vote for it.

Otherwise someone like Diane Abbott wouldn’t have been elected.
It's curious that you paint this as a Labour thing.

Remember, Nadine Dorries was elected.

Ian Geary

4,537 posts

194 months

Sunday 12th November 2023
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C70R said:
Poor people in London don't own cars. HTH.
Don't agree.

The "poorest" most likely don't own cars.
But I'm sure there are still people who see themselves as relatively poor, or are poor in an absolute sense, that keep a car running out of necessity. (Though more likely to be the case in outer London than inner London)

Really, any sensible discussion of this needs to define poor anyway, asit can mean whatever anyone wants in whatever argument they're having at that point in time.




C70R said:
Timothy Bucktu said:
Pan Pan Pan said:
Surely the big question must be ` Who is it in London, who keeps voting for Sadiq Khan?
If you look at some of Khan's Twitter feed, and look at the replies, and look at the names...you don't have to be inspector Clouseau to work it out.
Could you elaborate for us? Are they all called Jacinta and Tarquin? Or are you suggesting something more insidious?
Bit more serious this one.

Insidious? Really?

This seems a very touchy response.

My reading of it is: if you look at people supporting khan's tweets, you can see their names. They are the people supporting khan, both literally and on X /twitter. It is literally "who they are".

If people want to read anything insidious into that, it's their problem imo.



C70R said:
bad company said:
In most of the poorer areas of London you could a red Labour rosette on a dog and they’d vote for it.

Otherwise someone like Diane Abbott wouldn’t have been elected.
It's curious that you paint this as a Labour thing.

Remember, Nadine Dorries was elected.
I do agree with this. Surprised people have forgotten how blind party voting exists all over the country.

turbobloke

104,368 posts

262 months

Sunday 12th November 2023
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C70R said:
Poor people in London don't own cars. HTH.
The earlier LEZ report from the Transport Research Laboratory put it very clearly - restrictions on cars on air quality grounds were not warranted, and if imposed would impact more on less affluent households which own and use a car, as car use and associated costs represent a larger proportion of their income.

Not owning a car, that'll be a squirrel.

C70R

17,596 posts

106 months

Sunday 12th November 2023
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turbobloke said:
C70R said:
Poor people in London don't own cars. HTH.
The earlier LEZ report from the Transport Research Laboratory put it very clearly - restrictions on cars on air quality grounds were not warranted, and if imposed would impact more on less affluent households which own and use a car, as car use and associated costs represent a larger proportion of their income.

Not owning a car, that'll be a squirrel.
2.5m cars, 9m people.

I know you can do maths, because you've been an expert on geopolitics, disease control and military tactics in recent years. How about you apply some of that expertise here? laugh

turbobloke

104,368 posts

262 months

Sunday 12th November 2023
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Regressive ULEZ isn't progressive, whar a shock that isn't.

119

6,967 posts

38 months

Sunday 12th November 2023
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I spent about 5 years of my life in London and the best part about it was moving out of the utter cess pit.

valiant

10,453 posts

162 months

Sunday 12th November 2023
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119 said:
I spent about 5 years of my life in London and the best part about it was moving out of the utter cess pit.
Yeah, you've been missed...

C70R

17,596 posts

106 months

Sunday 12th November 2023
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119 said:
I spent about 5 years of my life in London and the best part about it was moving out of the utter cess pit.
Everyone who can't hack it in London says the same thing.

119

6,967 posts

38 months

Sunday 12th November 2023
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C70R said:
119 said:
I spent about 5 years of my life in London and the best part about it was moving out of the utter cess pit.
Everyone who can't hack it in London says the same thing.
I could hack it no problem and my main reason for leaving was being relocated with work.

It’s only when you are no longer there, the realisation kinda sets in.

C70R

17,596 posts

106 months

Sunday 12th November 2023
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119 said:
C70R said:
119 said:
I spent about 5 years of my life in London and the best part about it was moving out of the utter cess pit.
Everyone who can't hack it in London says the same thing.
I could hack it no problem and my main reason for leaving was being relocated with work.

It’s only when you are no longer there, the realisation kinda sets in.
It doesn't sound like that to me.

Caddyshack

11,012 posts

208 months

Sunday 12th November 2023
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C70R said:
119 said:
I spent about 5 years of my life in London and the best part about it was moving out of the utter cess pit.
Everyone who can't hack it in London says the same thing.
If you ever have to “hack it” In the place you live then you need to live somewhere else imo. I would hate to have to be tough enough to live somewhere.

I hate having to visit London.

119

6,967 posts

38 months

Sunday 12th November 2023
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C70R said:
119 said:
C70R said:
119 said:
I spent about 5 years of my life in London and the best part about it was moving out of the utter cess pit.
Everyone who can't hack it in London says the same thing.
I could hack it no problem and my main reason for leaving was being relocated with work.

It’s only when you are no longer there, the realisation kinda sets in.
It doesn't sound like that to me.
Ok.

bad company

18,770 posts

268 months

Sunday 12th November 2023
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valiant said:
119 said:
I spent about 5 years of my life in London and the best part about it was moving out of the utter cess pit.
Yeah, you've been missed...
Very good. laughlaughlaugh

I love London. Mrs BC and I go at least once or twice per month.

119

6,967 posts

38 months

Sunday 12th November 2023
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valiant said:
119 said:
I spent about 5 years of my life in London and the best part about it was moving out of the utter cess pit.
Yeah, you've been missed...
I hope not, as you would never be able to pay me enough to ever go back.

You are welcome to it.

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C70R

17,596 posts

106 months

Sunday 12th November 2023
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Caddyshack said:
C70R said:
119 said:
I spent about 5 years of my life in London and the best part about it was moving out of the utter cess pit.
Everyone who can't hack it in London says the same thing.
If you ever have to “hack it” In the place you live then you need to live somewhere else imo. I would hate to have to be tough enough to live somewhere.

I hate having to visit London.
It's got nothing to do with being "tough". Why would you interpret it that way?

Living in big cities isn't for everyone. If you can hack it, you get some of the best the world has to offer of pretty much anything. If you can't hack it, there are myriad sad provincial towns and cities where life is easier.

Gareth79

7,734 posts

248 months

Sunday 12th November 2023
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silverfoxcc said:
The main drawback Khan has is the the prevailing winds will blow all those nasty fumes out of London in minutes However they will be replaced by equally toxic fumes from all the non compliant vehicles going around the M25 24/7 being blown in,s unless the fkwits next plan is to totally enclose the GLC area under a dome
Oh yes, "fumes" just get blown away so any concern is unwarranted, except when they get blown in from elsewhere.