The 'Bladerunners' are right

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Pan Pan Pan

9,999 posts

113 months

Sunday 12th November 2023
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F1GTRUeno said:
C70R said:
It's impossible to generalise about London, and that's what makes it truly great.
It's a massive sthole.

See, not impossible.
Exactly. I was born there, grew up there, and worked there for a while. Best thing my Parents did, was get us out of London.
With the exception a few well off areas, London always was a dirty, litter strewn, overcrowded ugly sh*thole.
I went there for the funeral of the last of my relatives who still lived in London, and it has got even worse, far worse than I remember it. Flying North of London, on gin clear day shows, London as a big bubble of filth. on an otherwise clear the horizon.
Perhaps surrounding counties should start fining Khan for the pollution that spreads over their areas from London?

Billy_Rosewood

3,131 posts

166 months

Sunday 12th November 2023
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C70R said:
Everyone who can't hack it in London says the same thing.
More oxymorons. If it was so lovely there would be nothing to "hack" laugh

C70R

17,596 posts

106 months

Sunday 12th November 2023
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Billy_Rosewood said:
C70R said:
Everyone who can't hack it in London says the same thing.
More oxymorons. If it was so lovely there would be nothing to "hack" laugh
Big city living isn't easy. That's not a London thing. It's the same in big cities all over the world.

It's not for everyone.

NomduJour

19,198 posts

261 months

Sunday 12th November 2023
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C70R said:
It's not for everyone
Like second-homers?

Bo_apex

2,602 posts

220 months

Tuesday 14th November 2023
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Pan Pan Pan said:
Perhaps surrounding counties should start fining Khan for the pollution that spreads over their areas from London?
Not a bad idea biggrin

Khan allows his £12.50 daily diesels to travel outside of the M25.

A sharp Barrister and a class action may find a way to penalise him.


Terminator X

15,227 posts

206 months

Tuesday 14th November 2023
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Lol'ing at the Londoners getting all touchy if someone else isn't a fan rofl

TX.

ingenieur

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4,097 posts

183 months

Tuesday 14th November 2023
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One of the worst things about London, having lived there most of my life and recently left is that there's no place for the middle class. So it basically means the poor are left to ravage the place. The richer types can afford nice places in nice parts close to the centre but they're a minority and probably not even in London most of the time. There are middle class households in London but probably bought their house in the 1960s and held on to it.

Bo_apex

2,602 posts

220 months

Tuesday 14th November 2023
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ingenieur said:
One of the worst things about London, having lived there most of my life and recently left is that there's no place for the middle class. So it basically means the poor are left to ravage the place. The richer types can afford nice places in nice parts close to the centre but they're a minority and probably not even in London most of the time. There are middle class households in London but probably bought their house in the 1960s and held on to it.
^^this^^

Our middle class friends tell us they are getting a serious kicking, and just about treading water financially.

C70R

17,596 posts

106 months

Tuesday 14th November 2023
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Terminator X said:
Lol'ing at the Londoners getting all touchy if someone else isn't a fan rofl

TX.
What's "touchy" about suggesting that big cities aren't for everyone? That's just a statement of fact.

You're trying a bit too hard to find something that isn't there...

Randy Winkman

16,406 posts

191 months

Tuesday 14th November 2023
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C70R said:
Terminator X said:
Lol'ing at the Londoners getting all touchy if someone else isn't a fan rofl

TX.
What's "touchy" about suggesting that big cities aren't for everyone? That's just a statement of fact.

You're trying a bit too hard to find something that isn't there...
Also suggests that TX doesn't live in London anyway. I could go on about how I don't like (place X) but since I don't live there it's rather besides the point.

SlimJim16v

5,752 posts

145 months

Tuesday 14th November 2023
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On the news just now. The security for mobile camera vans run over a protester. She's on crutches with badly bruised legs.

C70R

17,596 posts

106 months

Tuesday 14th November 2023
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It's 'the big one' this coming Saturday. laugh


ingenieur

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4,097 posts

183 months

Wednesday 15th November 2023
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SlimJim16v said:
On the news just now. The security for mobile camera vans run over a protester. She's on crutches with badly bruised legs.
https://www.itv.com/news/london/2023-11-14/anti-ulez-protester-hurt-while-challenging-camera-van - worth watching the video

twister

1,454 posts

238 months

Wednesday 15th November 2023
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SlimJim16v said:
On the news just now. The security for mobile camera vans run over a protester. She's on crutches with badly bruised legs.
Sadly, having seen earlier videos showing how van and car drivers are only too happy to ignore traffic laws (driving with a windscreen obscured by stickers, and driving the wrong way around a roundabout), it was somewhat inevitable that an incident like this would occur. TfLs statement in response was shameful and dismissive, and sounded like it could have been written by our dear leader himself given how quick he is to similarly dismiss genuine issues faced by people affected by ULEZ.

Cliftonite

8,421 posts

140 months

Wednesday 15th November 2023
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twister said:
SlimJim16v said:
On the news just now. The security for mobile camera vans run over a protester. She's on crutches with badly bruised legs.
Sadly, having seen earlier videos showing how van and car drivers are only too happy to ignore traffic laws (driving with a windscreen obscured by stickers, and driving the wrong way around a roundabout), it was somewhat inevitable that an incident like this would occur. TfLs statement in response was shameful and dismissive, and sounded like it could have been written by our dear leader himself given how quick he is to similarly dismiss genuine issues faced by people affected by ULEZ.
Has the driver not been arrested? What would happen (HAS happened) when a member of the public attempts to drive through Just Stop Oil cordons?

Two-tier policing in action?

C70R

17,596 posts

106 months

Wednesday 15th November 2023
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Cliftonite said:
twister said:
SlimJim16v said:
On the news just now. The security for mobile camera vans run over a protester. She's on crutches with badly bruised legs.
Sadly, having seen earlier videos showing how van and car drivers are only too happy to ignore traffic laws (driving with a windscreen obscured by stickers, and driving the wrong way around a roundabout), it was somewhat inevitable that an incident like this would occur. TfLs statement in response was shameful and dismissive, and sounded like it could have been written by our dear leader himself given how quick he is to similarly dismiss genuine issues faced by people affected by ULEZ.
Has the driver not been arrested? What would happen (HAS happened) when a member of the public attempts to drive through Just Stop Oil cordons?

Two-tier policing in action?
I'm wondering what the Venn diagram of PH posters who encouraged the public to drive through JSO protesters, but are now outraged that someone doing their job has driven through protesters. I'm imagining a circle. laugh

Nice job of leaping on the "two-tier policing" bandwagon though.

NomduJour

19,198 posts

261 months

Wednesday 15th November 2023
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Safe to assume she was a boomer and a racist, so fair game for the mayor’s brave and diverse comrades. Probably not even a true Londoner, either - do we know if she even lived in Norfolk?

oyster

12,655 posts

250 months

Wednesday 15th November 2023
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silverfoxcc said:
The logic behind that totally useless Khan and his ULEZ theory is not dissimilar to somebody deciding that they dont want people with muddy boots tramping through their house but allowing them to continue if they pay him money.

The main drawback Khan has is the the prevailing winds will blow all those nasty fumes out of London in minutes However they will be replaced by equally toxic fumes from all the non compliant vehicles going around the M25 24/7 being blown in,s unless the fkwits next plan is to totally enclose the GLC area under a dome

IF he was really concerned he would have banned ALL non compliant vehicles from entering ,but to let them come in and casrry on doing it for 12.50 a po is beyond any sane persons belief.
So you don't believe that pricing (or taxation) changes behaviour?

NomduJour

19,198 posts

261 months

Wednesday 15th November 2023
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oyster said:
So you don't believe that pricing (or taxation) changes behaviour?
Of course it does - but the impact is wildly disproportionate to the effect. Nobody likes being ripped off for a vanity cash-grab.

AstonZagato

12,766 posts

212 months

Wednesday 15th November 2023
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C70R said:
I'm wondering what the Venn diagram of PH posters who encouraged the public to drive through JSO protesters, but are now outraged that someone doing their job has driven through protesters. I'm imagining a circle. laugh

Nice job of leaping on the "two-tier policing" bandwagon though.
But he's not saying that he's outraged. He's saying that either both actions are wrong or both are allowable. If one is okay and the other isn't then the police have varying standards of enforcement.