The 'No to the EU' campaign
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EU referendum: PM warns Brexit could bring the 'Jungle' to the UK
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendu...
Kind of makes sense, if we exit & then French tell our authorities to fk off from Calais & other crossing points.
I should imagine we'd be able to fly them all straight back from whence they've came, what with all the savings from leaving the EU. Gotta find some way to spend the mountains of cash....
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendu...
Kind of makes sense, if we exit & then French tell our authorities to fk off from Calais & other crossing points.
I should imagine we'd be able to fly them all straight back from whence they've came, what with all the savings from leaving the EU. Gotta find some way to spend the mountains of cash....
zygalski said:
EU referendum: PM warns Brexit could bring the 'Jungle' to the UK
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendu...
Kind of makes sense, if we exit & then French tell our authorities to fk off from Calais & other crossing points.
I should imagine we'd be able to fly them all straight back from whence they've came, what with all the savings from leaving the EU. Gotta find some way to spend the mountains of cash....
Cameron is a traitor or stupid , despite his and labours best efforts we still have a army,navy and a sea border, with passport control etc, what a he is, so fear mongering over the economy fails because as many or more business leaders say we would be fine outside the EU than the pro eu lot so the turd of downing street starts over again with we won't be able to control our borders...idiot...http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendu...
Kind of makes sense, if we exit & then French tell our authorities to fk off from Calais & other crossing points.
I should imagine we'd be able to fly them all straight back from whence they've came, what with all the savings from leaving the EU. Gotta find some way to spend the mountains of cash....
zygalski said:
EU referendum: PM warns Brexit could bring the 'Jungle' to the UK
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendu...
Kind of makes sense, if we exit & then French tell our authorities to fk off from Calais & other crossing points.
I should imagine we'd be able to fly them all straight back from whence they've came, what with all the savings from leaving the EU. Gotta find some way to spend the mountains of cash....
Sounds like a load of fear-mongering bks, more like. As does the rest of the "In" campaign.http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendu...
Kind of makes sense, if we exit & then French tell our authorities to fk off from Calais & other crossing points.
I should imagine we'd be able to fly them all straight back from whence they've came, what with all the savings from leaving the EU. Gotta find some way to spend the mountains of cash....
zygalski said:
EU referendum: PM warns Brexit could bring the 'Jungle' to the UK
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendu...
Kind of makes sense, if we exit & then French tell our authorities to fk off from Calais & other crossing points.
I should imagine we'd be able to fly them all straight back from whence they've came, what with all the savings from leaving the EU. Gotta find some way to spend the mountains of cash....
And if we stay in the EU plan for the migrant crisis is to distribute them throughout the EU, that means the UK, so we have a idea with no basis in fact against a plan that is true, as I said before do we want to be part of a union that is vindictive towards its neighours ?http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendu...
Kind of makes sense, if we exit & then French tell our authorities to fk off from Calais & other crossing points.
I should imagine we'd be able to fly them all straight back from whence they've came, what with all the savings from leaving the EU. Gotta find some way to spend the mountains of cash....
zygalski said:
EU referendum: PM warns Brexit could bring the 'Jungle' to the UK
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendu...
Kind of makes sense, if we exit & then French tell our authorities to fk off from Calais & other crossing points.
I should imagine we'd be able to fly them all straight back from whence they've came, what with all the savings from leaving the EU. Gotta find some way to spend the mountains of cash....
total bks.http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendu...
Kind of makes sense, if we exit & then French tell our authorities to fk off from Calais & other crossing points.
I should imagine we'd be able to fly them all straight back from whence they've came, what with all the savings from leaving the EU. Gotta find some way to spend the mountains of cash....
assuming our own government does not fold, we simply do not allow them to come to the UK, and any operator that shipps one here has to remove them back to where they came from - ie. the same that's dome at airports etc.
grumbledoak said:
zygalski said:
EU referendum: PM warns Brexit could bring the 'Jungle' to the UK
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendu...
Kind of makes sense, if we exit & then French tell our authorities to fk off from Calais & other crossing points.
I should imagine we'd be able to fly them all straight back from whence they've came, what with all the savings from leaving the EU. Gotta find some way to spend the mountains of cash....
Sounds like a load of fear-mongering bks, more like. As does the rest of the "In" campaign.http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendu...
Kind of makes sense, if we exit & then French tell our authorities to fk off from Calais & other crossing points.
I should imagine we'd be able to fly them all straight back from whence they've came, what with all the savings from leaving the EU. Gotta find some way to spend the mountains of cash....
zygalski said:
You have a point. Not like the 'out' campaign ever resort to scaremongering. You got me bang to rights there.
examples?and before you do, just remember what was said by UKIP about Romanian and Bulgarians ahead of the 2015 GE?
was that scaremongering too like everybody said or did it actually happen?
or would you cite the health tourism that Farage brought up? than even the BMA and consultants are all crying about now (although they flatly denied it 12 months ago).
hell, why not just watch this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UV-bQVBHPIc
Scuffers said:
total bks.
assuming our own government does not fold, we simply do not allow them to come to the UK, and any operator that shipps one here has to remove them back to where they came from - ie. the same that's dome at airports etc.
If that is the best Cameron can come up with the in campaign must either be desperate or relying on the gullibility of voters.assuming our own government does not fold, we simply do not allow them to come to the UK, and any operator that shipps one here has to remove them back to where they came from - ie. the same that's dome at airports etc.
Those of us who have travelled to any destination that requires a VISA are well aware that your entitlement to enter the destination is checked UK side.
and quite why we are supposed to have "Migrant camps" in south-east England when they will be quite entitled to be housed at public expense is also a mystery.
Crush said:
So if we leave the EU our borders will be even more porous because the French won't control their side, and other member states will refuse to warn us if there's an imminent terror attack in the UK.
Sounds a nice group to be a member of
Such a friendly and supportive bunch. The thing is, for years the French virtually handed out route maps to the south of England, so what's new anyway? As to terror attacks, GCHQ and NSA tell the French and others what's going on more often than not.Sounds a nice group to be a member of
turbobloke said:
Crush said:
So if we leave the EU our borders will be even more porous because the French won't control their side, and other member states will refuse to warn us if there's an imminent terror attack in the UK.
Sounds a nice group to be a member of
Such a friendly and supportive bunch. The thing is, for years the French virtually handed out route maps to the south of England, so what's new anyway? As to terror attacks, GCHQ and NSA tell the French and others what's going on more often than not.Sounds a nice group to be a member of
Scuffers said:
zygalski said:
EU referendum: PM warns Brexit could bring the 'Jungle' to the UK
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendu...
Kind of makes sense, if we exit & then French tell our authorities to fk off from Calais & other crossing points.
I should imagine we'd be able to fly them all straight back from whence they've came, what with all the savings from leaving the EU. Gotta find some way to spend the mountains of cash....
total bks.http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendu...
Kind of makes sense, if we exit & then French tell our authorities to fk off from Calais & other crossing points.
I should imagine we'd be able to fly them all straight back from whence they've came, what with all the savings from leaving the EU. Gotta find some way to spend the mountains of cash....
assuming our own government does not fold, we simply do not allow them to come to the UK, and any operator that shipps one here has to remove them back to where they came from - ie. the same that's dome at airports etc.
So you are correct you can fine the ferry company and make them take the person back.
HOWEVER, if the person claims refugee status they are on UK sovereign territory so under our treaty obligations they can stay while there case is assessed.
Mrr T said:
Scuffers said:
zygalski said:
EU referendum: PM warns Brexit could bring the 'Jungle' to the UK
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendu...
Kind of makes sense, if we exit & then French tell our authorities to fk off from Calais & other crossing points.
I should imagine we'd be able to fly them all straight back from whence they've came, what with all the savings from leaving the EU. Gotta find some way to spend the mountains of cash....
total bks.http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendu...
Kind of makes sense, if we exit & then French tell our authorities to fk off from Calais & other crossing points.
I should imagine we'd be able to fly them all straight back from whence they've came, what with all the savings from leaving the EU. Gotta find some way to spend the mountains of cash....
assuming our own government does not fold, we simply do not allow them to come to the UK, and any operator that shipps one here has to remove them back to where they came from - ie. the same that's dome at airports etc.
Mrr T said:
So you are correct you can fine the ferry company and make them take the person back.
HOWEVER, if the person claims refugee status they are on UK sovereign territory so under our treaty obligations they can stay while there case is assessed.
You are quite correct that the person can claim refugee status and whether accepted or not will likely not be deported (throughout the EU only 40% of failed asylum seekers are deported)HOWEVER, if the person claims refugee status they are on UK sovereign territory so under our treaty obligations they can stay while there case is assessed.
The point is that even without UK border guards present in France if the Ferry company is receiving a fine for each one it brings across it would be good business practice to have its own checks.
Mrr T said:
Scuffers said:
zygalski said:
EU referendum: PM warns Brexit could bring the 'Jungle' to the UK
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendu...
Kind of makes sense, if we exit & then French tell our authorities to fk off from Calais & other crossing points.
I should imagine we'd be able to fly them all straight back from whence they've came, what with all the savings from leaving the EU. Gotta find some way to spend the mountains of cash....
total bks.http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendu...
Kind of makes sense, if we exit & then French tell our authorities to fk off from Calais & other crossing points.
I should imagine we'd be able to fly them all straight back from whence they've came, what with all the savings from leaving the EU. Gotta find some way to spend the mountains of cash....
assuming our own government does not fold, we simply do not allow them to come to the UK, and any operator that shipps one here has to remove them back to where they came from - ie. the same that's dome at airports etc.
So you are correct you can fine the ferry company and make them take the person back.
HOWEVER, if the person claims refugee status they are on UK sovereign territory so under our treaty obligations they can stay while there case is assessed.
Mrr T said:
Scuffers I some times wonder do you believe if you say something often enough it will become true.
So you are correct you can fine the ferry company and make them take the person back.
HOWEVER, if the person claims refugee status they are on UK sovereign territory so under our treaty obligations they can stay while there case is assessed.
So,.please explain why it would be any different to airports?So you are correct you can fine the ferry company and make them take the person back.
HOWEVER, if the person claims refugee status they are on UK sovereign territory so under our treaty obligations they can stay while there case is assessed.
Once we make.it clear.that the carrier becomes financially responsible for this, they simply will not bring them here in the first place.
All this crap about them dumping passports and Id paperwork would mean they simply cannot board a ferry/train/etc.
Yes I am some will arrive and claim asylum, and some may well be genuine, but nothing like the hordes in the jungle.
It's all about having the will to enforce our borders and laws.
Do you see the Russians having these problem?
You only have to look at Australia to see how to do it.
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