The 'Bladerunners' are right
Discussion
Caddyshack said:
C70R said:
119 said:
I spent about 5 years of my life in London and the best part about it was moving out of the utter cess pit.
Everyone who can't hack it in London says the same thing.I hate having to visit London.
Car-loving, older people disliking a place suited to the lifestyles of younger, non car-owning people.
Would I live in London as a single, 30 yr old? Hell yes.
Would I live in London as a married 55 yr old with several cars? No.
NomduJour said:
Safe to assume she was a boomer and a racist, so fair game for the mayor’s brave and diverse comrades. Probably not even a true Londoner, either - do we know if she even lived in Norfolk?
Four minutes is a new record. Congratulations.Do you think about me a lot when you're not on PH?
AstonZagato said:
C70R said:
I'm wondering what the Venn diagram of PH posters who encouraged the public to drive through JSO protesters, but are now outraged that someone doing their job has driven through protesters. I'm imagining a circle. 
Nice job of leaping on the "two-tier policing" bandwagon though.
But he's not saying that he's outraged. He's saying that either both actions are wrong or both are allowable. If one is okay and the other isn't then the police have varying standards of enforcement.Nice job of leaping on the "two-tier policing" bandwagon though.
Calm and innocent questions like "two tier policing in action?".
oyster said:
What a surprise.
Car-loving, older people disliking a place suited to the lifestyles of younger, non car-owning people.
Would I live in London as a single, 30 yr old? Hell yes.
Would I live in London as a married 55 yr old with several cars? No.
3 days and nights per week in London is plenty Car-loving, older people disliking a place suited to the lifestyles of younger, non car-owning people.
Would I live in London as a single, 30 yr old? Hell yes.
Would I live in London as a married 55 yr old with several cars? No.
They need to cut them down quicker or the NHS will fork out £65 million on new ambulances to appease Khan's vanity.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12766063/...
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12766063/...
768 said:
They need to cut them down quicker or the NHS will fork out £65 million on new ambulances to appease Khan's vanity.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12766063/...
I drove into the zone over the weekend, only about 4 miles from the M25 but in theory past several cameras (ok one was gift wrapped) but I don't seem to have been charged on the autopsy yet.https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12766063/...
So on that basis they should just chance it.
A draft report from the Advertising Standards Authority is suggesting that Kahn "mislead London public" over the benefits of ULEZ.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/ulez-advert...
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/ulez-advert...
It may be proved one way or the other that Khan did mislead the public in his efforts to grab cash off the public using the enlarged ULEZ as his cash cow.
Since Khan does not control airflow over London, he cannot hold the supposedly cleaner air over the capital. He cannot stop air from the home counties from passing over / through London.
He also cannot stop all the emissions coming from the millions of dwellings, businesses, and factories in the London area let alone teh vehicles in the area.
It is clear, that his actions were nothing other than a sordid cash grab, which even by his own admissions, will have little effect on air quality in the London area.
Wonder what he will switch his cash grabs to next, when eventually all the vehicles in London are compliant?
Since Khan does not control airflow over London, he cannot hold the supposedly cleaner air over the capital. He cannot stop air from the home counties from passing over / through London.
He also cannot stop all the emissions coming from the millions of dwellings, businesses, and factories in the London area let alone teh vehicles in the area.
It is clear, that his actions were nothing other than a sordid cash grab, which even by his own admissions, will have little effect on air quality in the London area.
Wonder what he will switch his cash grabs to next, when eventually all the vehicles in London are compliant?
Pan Pan Pan said:
It may be proved one way or the other that Khan did mislead the public in his efforts to grab cash off the public using the enlarged ULEZ as his cash cow.
Since Khan does not control airflow over London, he cannot hold the supposedly cleaner air over the capital. He cannot stop air from the home counties from passing over / through London.
He also cannot stop all the emissions coming from the millions of dwellings, businesses, and factories in the London area let alone teh vehicles in the area.
It is clear, that his actions were nothing other than a sordid cash grab, which even by his own admissions, will have little effect on air quality in the London area.
Wonder what he will switch his cash grabs to next, when eventually all the vehicles in London are compliant?
You say 'eventually'... Since Khan does not control airflow over London, he cannot hold the supposedly cleaner air over the capital. He cannot stop air from the home counties from passing over / through London.
He also cannot stop all the emissions coming from the millions of dwellings, businesses, and factories in the London area let alone teh vehicles in the area.
It is clear, that his actions were nothing other than a sordid cash grab, which even by his own admissions, will have little effect on air quality in the London area.
Wonder what he will switch his cash grabs to next, when eventually all the vehicles in London are compliant?
I think part of the anger from the masses is that it won't be long at all until non-compliant cars age out of the system. So why is he even doing it. One possible reason is that once the system has been in place for a little while they intend to implement a full pay per mile solution for every car in London. They also get to track everybody... they have that already even if only charging non-compliant vehicles... the tracking part of it already works.
Pay per mile seems like the logical conclusion when you add up all the pieces. It would be incredibly unwelcome and unfair bearing in mind we already pay per mile for the fuel we use (even if it's electricity!). We also pay road tax. The advantage of the existing system of road charging is that they're not tracking every single trip to the cornershop. Passive rather than active road charging.
ingenieur said:
Pan Pan Pan said:
It may be proved one way or the other that Khan did mislead the public in his efforts to grab cash off the public using the enlarged ULEZ as his cash cow.
Since Khan does not control airflow over London, he cannot hold the supposedly cleaner air over the capital. He cannot stop air from the home counties from passing over / through London.
He also cannot stop all the emissions coming from the millions of dwellings, businesses, and factories in the London area let alone teh vehicles in the area.
It is clear, that his actions were nothing other than a sordid cash grab, which even by his own admissions, will have little effect on air quality in the London area.
Wonder what he will switch his cash grabs to next, when eventually all the vehicles in London are compliant?
You say 'eventually'... Since Khan does not control airflow over London, he cannot hold the supposedly cleaner air over the capital. He cannot stop air from the home counties from passing over / through London.
He also cannot stop all the emissions coming from the millions of dwellings, businesses, and factories in the London area let alone teh vehicles in the area.
It is clear, that his actions were nothing other than a sordid cash grab, which even by his own admissions, will have little effect on air quality in the London area.
Wonder what he will switch his cash grabs to next, when eventually all the vehicles in London are compliant?
I think part of the anger from the masses is that it won't be long at all until non-compliant cars age out of the system. So why is he even doing it. One possible reason is that once the system has been in place for a little while they intend to implement a full pay per mile solution for every car in London. They also get to track everybody... they have that already even if only charging non-compliant vehicles... the tracking part of it already works.
Pay per mile seems like the logical conclusion when you add up all the pieces. It would be incredibly unwelcome and unfair bearing in mind we already pay per mile for the fuel we use (even if it's electricity!). We also pay road tax. The advantage of the existing system of road charging is that they're not tracking every single trip to the cornershop. Passive rather than active road charging.
Bo_apex said:
ingenieur said:
Pan Pan Pan said:
It may be proved one way or the other that Khan did mislead the public in his efforts to grab cash off the public using the enlarged ULEZ as his cash cow.
Since Khan does not control airflow over London, he cannot hold the supposedly cleaner air over the capital. He cannot stop air from the home counties from passing over / through London.
He also cannot stop all the emissions coming from the millions of dwellings, businesses, and factories in the London area let alone teh vehicles in the area.
It is clear, that his actions were nothing other than a sordid cash grab, which even by his own admissions, will have little effect on air quality in the London area.
Wonder what he will switch his cash grabs to next, when eventually all the vehicles in London are compliant?
You say 'eventually'... Since Khan does not control airflow over London, he cannot hold the supposedly cleaner air over the capital. He cannot stop air from the home counties from passing over / through London.
He also cannot stop all the emissions coming from the millions of dwellings, businesses, and factories in the London area let alone teh vehicles in the area.
It is clear, that his actions were nothing other than a sordid cash grab, which even by his own admissions, will have little effect on air quality in the London area.
Wonder what he will switch his cash grabs to next, when eventually all the vehicles in London are compliant?
I think part of the anger from the masses is that it won't be long at all until non-compliant cars age out of the system. So why is he even doing it. One possible reason is that once the system has been in place for a little while they intend to implement a full pay per mile solution for every car in London. They also get to track everybody... they have that already even if only charging non-compliant vehicles... the tracking part of it already works.
Pay per mile seems like the logical conclusion when you add up all the pieces. It would be incredibly unwelcome and unfair bearing in mind we already pay per mile for the fuel we use (even if it's electricity!). We also pay road tax. The advantage of the existing system of road charging is that they're not tracking every single trip to the cornershop. Passive rather than active road charging.
ingenieur said:
Bo_apex said:
ingenieur said:
Pan Pan Pan said:
It may be proved one way or the other that Khan did mislead the public in his efforts to grab cash off the public using the enlarged ULEZ as his cash cow.
Since Khan does not control airflow over London, he cannot hold the supposedly cleaner air over the capital. He cannot stop air from the home counties from passing over / through London.
He also cannot stop all the emissions coming from the millions of dwellings, businesses, and factories in the London area let alone teh vehicles in the area.
It is clear, that his actions were nothing other than a sordid cash grab, which even by his own admissions, will have little effect on air quality in the London area.
Wonder what he will switch his cash grabs to next, when eventually all the vehicles in London are compliant?
You say 'eventually'... Since Khan does not control airflow over London, he cannot hold the supposedly cleaner air over the capital. He cannot stop air from the home counties from passing over / through London.
He also cannot stop all the emissions coming from the millions of dwellings, businesses, and factories in the London area let alone teh vehicles in the area.
It is clear, that his actions were nothing other than a sordid cash grab, which even by his own admissions, will have little effect on air quality in the London area.
Wonder what he will switch his cash grabs to next, when eventually all the vehicles in London are compliant?
I think part of the anger from the masses is that it won't be long at all until non-compliant cars age out of the system. So why is he even doing it. One possible reason is that once the system has been in place for a little while they intend to implement a full pay per mile solution for every car in London. They also get to track everybody... they have that already even if only charging non-compliant vehicles... the tracking part of it already works.
Pay per mile seems like the logical conclusion when you add up all the pieces. It would be incredibly unwelcome and unfair bearing in mind we already pay per mile for the fuel we use (even if it's electricity!). We also pay road tax. The advantage of the existing system of road charging is that they're not tracking every single trip to the cornershop. Passive rather than active road charging.
In a democracy, yes.
UK appears to be transitioning into a Police State
Really don't know how he doesn't get pulled up either way. He is either ludicrously uninformed (hard to believe given his position in tfl) or highly incompetent (again hard to believe given his professional background).
Which leaves us with the only option, and that is that he is "acting" in order to withhold information.
Which leaves us with the only option, and that is that he is "acting" in order to withhold information.
Phil. said:
Remarkable.Big numbers being spent on something he's very vague about.
ingenieur said:
Pan Pan Pan said:
It may be proved one way or the other that Khan did mislead the public in his efforts to grab cash off the public using the enlarged ULEZ as his cash cow.
Since Khan does not control airflow over London, he cannot hold the supposedly cleaner air over the capital. He cannot stop air from the home counties from passing over / through London.
He also cannot stop all the emissions coming from the millions of dwellings, businesses, and factories in the London area let alone teh vehicles in the area.
It is clear, that his actions were nothing other than a sordid cash grab, which even by his own admissions, will have little effect on air quality in the London area.
Wonder what he will switch his cash grabs to next, when eventually all the vehicles in London are compliant?
You say 'eventually'... Since Khan does not control airflow over London, he cannot hold the supposedly cleaner air over the capital. He cannot stop air from the home counties from passing over / through London.
He also cannot stop all the emissions coming from the millions of dwellings, businesses, and factories in the London area let alone teh vehicles in the area.
It is clear, that his actions were nothing other than a sordid cash grab, which even by his own admissions, will have little effect on air quality in the London area.
Wonder what he will switch his cash grabs to next, when eventually all the vehicles in London are compliant?
I think part of the anger from the masses is that it won't be long at all until non-compliant cars age out of the system. So why is he even doing it. One possible reason is that once the system has been in place for a little while they intend to implement a full pay per mile solution for every car in London. They also get to track everybody... they have that already even if only charging non-compliant vehicles... the tracking part of it already works.
Pay per mile seems like the logical conclusion when you add up all the pieces. It would be incredibly unwelcome and unfair bearing in mind we already pay per mile for the fuel we use (even if it's electricity!). We also pay road tax. The advantage of the existing system of road charging is that they're not tracking every single trip to the cornershop. Passive rather than active road charging.
Not being pedantic, I think it’s important in terms of this discussion. VED is not a tax to allow you to use the road (cyclists and horse riders don’t pay it) and VED revenue isn’t ring fenced to maintain roads…
Billy_Rosewood said:
Really don't know how he doesn't get pulled up either way. He is either ludicrously uninformed (hard to believe given his position in tfl) or highly incompetent (again hard to believe given his professional background).
Which leaves us with the only option, and that is that he is "acting" in order to withhold information.
...that's quite a charitable way to put it, anyone with the tiniest modicum of awareness can see that he's lying through his fWhich leaves us with the only option, and that is that he is "acting" in order to withhold information.
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