Will China be brought to account?

[Exige77]

Looks like India are brining China to account after their little border skirmish.

India have banned a long list of Chinese phone apps on grounds of national security as below:

[untakenname]

Don't blame them removing TikTok, the UK government should do as well after they made such a big deal of the Cambridge Analytica scandal.

Massive security and privacy issues hard coded into the app

https://www.boredpanda.com/tik-tok-reverse-enginee...

[jamoor]

Exige77 said:

Looks like India are brining China to account after their little border skirmish.

India have banned a long list of Chinese phone apps on grounds of national security as below:

Banning TikTok? Jeez India seems as bad as China now.

[Alucidnation]

Can’t say I blame them.

[NST]

Not all the apps in the list are Chinese.. it includes apps from Singapore ..

[CoolHands]

Banning apps is a token gesture though, I mean really, who cares

[jamoor]

CoolHands said:

Banning apps is a token gesture though, I mean really, who cares

The buyers and sellers. Apps are a very big business!

Just think about the worlds top biggest companies by market cap, and how many of them depend on apps for revenue...

[daqinggregg]

Something I don’t understand, maybe the business community can explain, why did we choose China over India as a cheep trading partner, given the communication difficulties?

[GroundZero]

daqinggregg said:

Something I don’t understand, maybe the business community can explain, why did we choose China over India as a cheep trading partner, given the communication difficulties?

The speed of adaption of chinese businesses combined with the 'slavery' pay scales they work on providing the west with cheap tat that the west can not compete with.

In the end it is the western consumer that has driven us to the current situation. Our demand for cheap tat that we are happy to consume for a few months and then throw away with little regard. To then be excited about buying equally cheap tat that is branded with a newer date on it.

I'm guilty of this myself in the past but now much more aware of it all. I hope that many more turn to home grown products in the future even if they cost more. A lowering of VAT coupled with an increase on chinese import duty may help to aid that pursuit.

Edited by GroundZero on Tuesday 30th June 17:11

[jamoor]

daqinggregg said:

Something I don’t understand, maybe the business community can explain, why did we choose China over India as a cheep trading partner, given the communication difficulties?

It must have been manufacturing technology that was available at the time, maybe Hong Kong has something to do with it too?

[Tuna]

GroundZero said:

daqinggregg said:

Something I don’t understand, maybe the business community can explain, why did we choose China over India as a cheep trading partner, given the communication difficulties?

The speed of adaption of chinese businesses combined with the 'slavery' pay scales they work on providing the west with cheap tat that the west can not compete with.

Historically I think China has been better at building out infrastructure when needed for foreign investment. India will nod and say yes, then nothing will happen. China will throw people at it until it does.

(Family have build businesses in both India and China)

[Stan the Bat]

I don't mind paying a bit more , will certainly be cutting down on the chinese crap.

[3454.5]

To reply to OP, I would certainly hope so.
Do the Politicians in the rest of the world, well what we tend to call the free world, have the courage?
That tonker has, much earlier in this thread, described how the UK should secure the UK's future.

[amusingduck]

China Suppression Of Uighur Minorities Meets U.N. Definition Of Genocide, Report Says

A new report in Foreign Policy says that China's suppression of Uighurs, Kazakhs and other chiefly Muslim ethnic minorities in northwest China now meets the United Nations definition of genocide, mass sterilization, forced abortions and mandatory birth control part of a campaign that has swept up more than 1.5 million people and what researcher Adrian Zenz calls probably the largest incarceration of an ethnoreligious minority since the Holocaust.

https://www.npr.org/2020/07/04/887239225/china-sup...

[rodericb]

Oh dear, this definition of genocide has reared its head. The definition is one thing up for debate but how is China going to react to the UN accusing them of committing genocide?!?!

[Carl_Manchester]

The U.S FCC has classified Huawei and ZTE as risks to U.S national security.

[Exige77]

rodericb said:

Oh dear, this definition of genocide has reared its head. The definition is one thing up for debate but how is China going to react to the UN accusing them of committing genocide?!?!

CCP doesn’t give a dam anymore what the world thinks.

They are very sure of their position as a world super power. They really think the world buys stuff from China because it’s “good” and not because it’s “cheap“.

[MrBarry123]

Exige77 said:

Agreed.

CCP doesn’t give a dam anymore what the world thinks.

They are very sure of their position as a world super power. They really think the world buys stuff from China because it’s “good” and not because it’s “cheap“.

The CCP are a scourge on China.

I think we’ll see the current iteration of the CCP rebuffed eventually as the CCP’s stranglehold on China is based on China being useful to the rest of the world and I think we’ll see it (China) become increasingly less valuable.

[skyrover]

Change has to come from within.

It won't be an easy transition if it happens at all.

The CCP are utterly ruthless and they will use any means they think are necessary to cling to power.

[Condi]

skyrover said:

Change has to come from within.

It won't be an easy transition if it happens at all.

The CCP are utterly ruthless and they will use any means they think are necessary to cling to power.

That will only happen when the citizens are fed up though, or the state no longer has the money/resources to control the population.

The USSR only failed politically long after it had failed economically. China is a long way from that point, and doesn't suffer from the same central economic control that the Soviet states did. They have a communist model which encourages private wealth. It has undoubtedly worked better than the Soviet system by allowing individuals to make decisions on the ground while being directed/encouraged from the central party.