Another dog attack

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J4CKO

41,847 posts

202 months

Tuesday 20th February
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Murph7355 said:
Simbu said:
Sentencing needs to be ramped up to make some examples of the scum failing to follow the law. The usual factors applied in sentencing are incidental (victim impact etc). Once the dog loses it's st, no-one is in control and it's luck as to the consequences.
Indeed.

And muzzles in public places. Preferably for all dogs. They need to stop fking about now.
All dogs, have a word with yourself.

My 15 year old 8 kilo terrier/mongrel needs to be muzzled in public when I walk him between 9 and 10pm ?

Sometimes its worth thinking before posting "Is that a proportionate and realistic suggestion", and no, its not, as most of these attacks seem to be in the home anyway, imagine sticking a muzzle on a Chihuahua ?

Its one of those suggestions like deporting someone who is third generation British, or banning bicycles from being used on the road, its never going to happen so may as well not make yourself look foolish by suggesting it.


jdw100

4,311 posts

166 months

Tuesday 20th February
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808 Estate said:
Interesting that it took 4 rounds to stop the dog. It must have been really hyped to take that much lead.
How are you pronouncing that last word?

J4CKO

41,847 posts

202 months

Tuesday 20th February
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jdw100 said:
808 Estate said:
Interesting that it took 4 rounds to stop the dog. It must have been really hyped to take that much lead.
How are you pronouncing that last word?
lol,

Suspect not all four went through its head, maybe just grazed it or went through a non essential bit.

poo at Paul's

14,225 posts

177 months

Tuesday 20th February
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Viper201 said:
Another one shot by police in Scotland. 3 people injured and a Collie attacked.

https://news.stv.tv/west-central/teen-girl-reporte...

And another one shot dead, this time in Hamilton in Scotland after it attacked a man and then the owner. Apparently rescued just 2 weeks before.

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/c...
Another Scottish XL Bully rescue hero receiving a dose of reality. wobble

irc

7,579 posts

138 months

Tuesday 20th February
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poo at Paul's said:
Another Scottish XL Bully rescue hero receiving a dose of reality. wobble
Humza Useless?

bmwmike

7,047 posts

110 months

Tuesday 20th February
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Got attacked quite viciously by some sort of terrier thing on the weekend whilst i was mountain biking. Luckily had multiple layers on, and the thing was hanging onto my overtrouser (and ripped it) rather than my flesh. Little fker made it impossible to balance the bike and crack it in the skull or ribs with my steel toe cap boots.

The owner clearly had form as she (60's) scuttled off as soon as she got control of it, which took a while, and she had told others that the fog allowed her dog to run off lead because he couldn't see the sheep!

Very glad it wasn't a larger dog as i'd not have had a chance of staying upright. Gutted I didn't get a good shot at it.









joshcowin

6,817 posts

178 months

Tuesday 20th February
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bmwmike said:
Very glad it wasn't a larger dog as i'd not have had a chance of staying upright. Gutted I didn't get a good shot at it.
I'm laughing at you being upset at not being able to hurt a small dog that ripped your trouser, hilarious!!

isaldiri

18,919 posts

170 months

Tuesday 20th February
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J4CKO said:
Suspect not all four went through its head, maybe just grazed it or went through a non essential bit.
It depends. all 4 could have hit an essential bit but unless the central nervous system is disrupted (ie brain or spine shot), a highly adrenalized large animal can keep going on for quite a while. Various books about man-eaters/hunting make that quite clear.

bmwmike

7,047 posts

110 months

Tuesday 20th February
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joshcowin said:
bmwmike said:
Very glad it wasn't a larger dog as i'd not have had a chance of staying upright. Gutted I didn't get a good shot at it.
I'm laughing at you being upset at not being able to hurt a small dog that ripped your trouser, hilarious!!
Good for you, glad you are entertained so easily. The little fker could have caused me a serious injury, and yes, I liked those trousers smile. Its self entitled attitudes like this as to why we're seeing so many dog attacks as owners just dgaf as to what their mutts are up to. Should be on leads everywhere if they have a tendency to chase or attack anything that moves.

It has given me pause for thought, which was sort of the point of my post, that steal toe cap boots alone are not enough to defend oneself if a dog is determined.





joshcowin

6,817 posts

178 months

Tuesday 20th February
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bmwmike said:
Good for you, glad you are entertained so easily. The little fker could have caused me a serious injury, and yes, I liked those trousers smile. Its self entitled attitudes like this as to why we're seeing so many dog attacks as owners just dgaf as to what their mutts are up to. Should be on leads everywhere if they have a tendency to chase or attack anything that moves.

It has given me pause for thought, which was sort of the point of my post, that steal toe cap boots alone are not enough to defend oneself if a dog is determined.
Self entitled - you are feeling put out you didn't get to kick a dog because it ripped a bit of cloth.

I agree that dogs should be kept in control fyi.

bmwmike

7,047 posts

110 months

Tuesday 20th February
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joshcowin said:
Self entitled - you are feeling put out you didn't get to kick a dog because it ripped a bit of cloth.

I agree that dogs should be kept in control fyi.
You weren't there. It was hanging off my leg. Damn right I would defend myself.


J4CKO

41,847 posts

202 months

Tuesday 20th February
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bmwmike said:
joshcowin said:
Self entitled - you are feeling put out you didn't get to kick a dog because it ripped a bit of cloth.

I agree that dogs should be kept in control fyi.
You weren't there. It was hanging off my leg. Damn right I would defend myself.
Yeah, I love dogs but if I am getting attacked then I will do whatever I can to stop that, including stoving its head in with whatever is to hand if all else fails.


I saw a video of a kid being attacked by a rabbit Racoon, the mum managed to pull it off her child, and it had a go at her, she managed to launch it, and was told off for animal cruelty, should have just placed it gently on the floor, are people that stupid ? She sent it flying to put distance between them.

joshcowin

6,817 posts

178 months

Tuesday 20th February
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bmwmike said:
You weren't there. It was hanging off my leg. Damn right I would defend myself.
'Gutted I didn't get a good shot at it'

Your attitude that you are 'gutted' you didn't kick a small animal with a steel toe cap boot because it ripped your trousers is an issue, personally, you see it different.

joshcowin

6,817 posts

178 months

Tuesday 20th February
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J4CKO said:
Yeah, I love dogs but if I am getting attacked then I will do whatever I can to stop that, including stoving its head in with whatever is to hand if all else fails.
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Yeah ok but what you have said literally has nothing to do with what I said.

Read the posts, he is gutted after the fact that he didn't kick a small dog with a steel toe cap boot because it ripped his trouser. I get defending yourself but in this case we don't need to make up random scenarios, a terrier attacked him, it tore his clothes, didn't cause him harm, yet he is 'gutted' he didn't kick it with his steel toe cap boots!

Timothy Bucktu

15,352 posts

202 months

Tuesday 20th February
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Ignore the brain-dead troll. I thought Schools went back this week?

Olivera

7,314 posts

241 months

Tuesday 20th February
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bmwmike said:
Damn right I would defend myself.
Seems reasonable.

irc

7,579 posts

138 months

Tuesday 20th February
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joshcowin said:
Yeah ok but what you have said literally has nothing to do with what I said.

Read the posts, he is gutted after the fact that he didn't kick a small dog with a steel toe cap boot because it ripped his trouser. I get defending yourself but in this case we don't need to make up random scenarios, a terrier attacked him, it tore his clothes, didn't cause him harm, yet he is 'gutted' he didn't kick it with his steel toe cap boots!
So it needs to draw blood before any defence is allowed?

bmwmike

7,047 posts

110 months

Tuesday 20th February
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joshcowin said:
'Gutted I didn't get a good shot at it'

Your attitude that you are 'gutted' you didn't kick a small animal with a steel toe cap boot because it ripped your trousers is an issue, personally, you see it different.
ugh, whatever. Interesting that you pick up on that but not that the dog has form for attacking sheep and probably other incidents. And yes, in that situation, I was gutted to not have given the dog a good hard kick as it was attacking me, if for nothing else than teach it a lesson.

It was not just a rip of my trousers but a sustained attack, fker wouldn't fk off, quite shaken up, it took the owner quite an effort to get it away from me and I wouldn't be surprised if she got injured in the process too. Not my only incident with dogs but definitely my worst.







bmwmike

7,047 posts

110 months

Tuesday 20th February
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irc said:
joshcowin said:
Yeah ok but what you have said literally has nothing to do with what I said.

Read the posts, he is gutted after the fact that he didn't kick a small dog with a steel toe cap boot because it ripped his trouser. I get defending yourself but in this case we don't need to make up random scenarios, a terrier attacked him, it tore his clothes, didn't cause him harm, yet he is 'gutted' he didn't kick it with his steel toe cap boots!
So it needs to draw blood before any defence is allowed?
Josh apparently thinks the dog must be teeth deep into your leg before you can consider swearing at it.

Personally if the intent is demonstrated and the owner hasn't got it back under control immediately, i'll do whatever I can to defend myself.




J4CKO

41,847 posts

202 months

Tuesday 20th February
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joshcowin said:
J4CKO said:
Yeah, I love dogs but if I am getting attacked then I will do whatever I can to stop that, including stoving its head in with whatever is to hand if all else fails.
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Yeah ok but what you have said literally has nothing to do with what I said.

Read the posts, he is gutted after the fact that he didn't kick a small dog with a steel toe cap boot because it ripped his trouser. I get defending yourself but in this case we don't need to make up random scenarios, a terrier attacked him, it tore his clothes, didn't cause him harm, yet he is 'gutted' he didn't kick it with his steel toe cap boots!
If it rips his pants, its going to do more damage given half a chance, you get attacked by a dog I can see why you would want to kick it at the time as you are under attack, less so afterwards but even so, its pretty traumatic and distressing, even with a dog thats not that big, never mind anything bigger.