The economic consequences of Brexit (Vol 3)
Discussion
Troubleatmill said:
Hang on, I missed this.
///ajd actually voted Conservative.
With delivering Brexit being the flagship in the manifesto.
Wasn’t there a political party available more in line with his EU views?
I have never said how I voted.///ajd actually voted Conservative.
With delivering Brexit being the flagship in the manifesto.
Wasn’t there a political party available more in line with his EU views?
I’ll tell you what, if you, sid, tam etc. admit you have voted UKIP in the past, I might tell you how I voted.
That’s fair I think.
Gloria Slap said:
I have never said how I voted.
I’ll tell you what, if you, sid, tam etc. admit you have voted UKIP in the past, I might tell you how I voted.
That’s fair I think.
i voted for them in the european elections once I’ll tell you what, if you, sid, tam etc. admit you have voted UKIP in the past, I might tell you how I voted.
That’s fair I think.
. voted conservative for the very first time at the last general election.Gloria Slap said:
Troubleatmill said:
Hang on, I missed this.
///ajd actually voted Conservative.
With delivering Brexit being the flagship in the manifesto.
Wasn’t there a political party available more in line with his EU views?
I have never said how I voted.///ajd actually voted Conservative.
With delivering Brexit being the flagship in the manifesto.
Wasn’t there a political party available more in line with his EU views?
I’ll tell you what, if you, sid, tam etc. admit you have voted UKIP in the past, I might tell you how I voted.
That’s fair I think.
If someone gives you something.... you MIGHT give something back.
And you think it is fair?
Even if you did say how you voted - given your propensity to be economic with the truth on these threads - I wouldn't believe you.
Gloria Slap said:
Troubleatmill said:
All of the investment announcements over the last two years must have escaped your notice.
They’ll be for nought if the £80Bn investment in next five years is not made.That will be curtains for UK JLRs electric future. According to JLR.
Why don’t you bet me £500 you know better than JLR. Give us all (another) laugh.
Trying to persuade you to put your money where your mouth is - is clearly fruitless.
Gloria Slap said:
I have never said how I voted.
I’ll tell you what, if you, sid, tam etc. admit you have voted UKIP in the past, I might tell you how I voted.
That’s fair I think.
Always voted lib dem but once they got into bed with the tories and then with their anti brexit stance I switched to the tories. I have never voted for ukip... I’ll tell you what, if you, sid, tam etc. admit you have voted UKIP in the past, I might tell you how I voted.
That’s fair I think.
Vanden Saab said:
Gloria Slap said:
I have never said how I voted.
I’ll tell you what, if you, sid, tam etc. admit you have voted UKIP in the past, I might tell you how I voted.
That’s fair I think.
Always voted lib dem but once they got into bed with the tories and then with their anti brexit stance I switched to the tories. I have never voted for ukip... I’ll tell you what, if you, sid, tam etc. admit you have voted UKIP in the past, I might tell you how I voted.
That’s fair I think.
CaptainSlow said:
Why was getting into bed with the Tories so bad when you're then willing to vote Tory?
The logic on display here at times is remarkable isn’t it.Anyway thanks for the replies so far; the real prize is to hear from tam, dd and of course sid. sorry to hear you won’t believe me anyway tam, does make one wonder why you keep asking.
Nevertheless, if Sid confesses to a previous UKIP dalliance at the voting box, I really then might confess to my voting history which fascinates you all so!
Edited by Gloria Slap on Thursday 5th July 15:26
Troubleatmill said:
Gloria Slap said:
Troubleatmill said:
All of the investment announcements over the last two years must have escaped your notice.
They’ll be for nought if the £80Bn investment in next five years is not made.That will be curtains for UK JLRs electric future. According to JLR.
Why don’t you bet me £500 you know better than JLR. Give us all (another) laugh.
Trying to persuade you to put your money where your mouth is - is clearly fruitless.
The others don’t counter this one - that’s not how it works. Or perhaps you think it does - would be very good to hear you explain that.
Gloria Slap said:
The logic on dispaly here at times is remarkable isn’t it.
Anyway thanks for the replies so far, but the real prize is to hear from tam, dd and of course sid.
If sid confesses to a previous UKIP dalliance at the voting box, I really then might confess to my voting history which fascinates you all so!
Again - you MIGHT.....Anyway thanks for the replies so far, but the real prize is to hear from tam, dd and of course sid.
If sid confesses to a previous UKIP dalliance at the voting box, I really then might confess to my voting history which fascinates you all so!
Gloria Slap said:
Troubleatmill said:
Gloria Slap said:
Troubleatmill said:
All of the investment announcements over the last two years must have escaped your notice.
They’ll be for nought if the £80Bn investment in next five years is not made.That will be curtains for UK JLRs electric future. According to JLR.
Why don’t you bet me £500 you know better than JLR. Give us all (another) laugh.
Trying to persuade you to put your money where your mouth is - is clearly fruitless.
The others don’t counter this one - that’s not how it works. Or perhaps you think it does - would be very good to hear you explain that.
Gloria Slap said:
CaptainSlow said:
Why was getting into bed with the Tories so bad when you're then willing to vote Tory?
The logic on display here at times is remarkable isn’t it.Anyway thanks for the replies so far; the real prize is to hear from tam, dd and of course sid. sorry to hear you won’t believe me anyway tam, does make one wonder why you keep asking.
Nevertheless, if Sid confesses to a previous UKIP dalliance at the voting box, I really then might confess to my voting history which fascinates you all so!
Edited by Gloria Slap on Thursday 5th July 15:26
Some Germans kicking off a bit, but milder than JLR
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/jul/05/g...
Plus
“Cable said: “I got to know Ralf Speth well enough to know that he’s not bluffing when he says JLR’s position is that a hard Brexit would make the company’s position in the UK untenable.””
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/jul/05/g...
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“Cable said: “I got to know Ralf Speth well enough to know that he’s not bluffing when he says JLR’s position is that a hard Brexit would make the company’s position in the UK untenable.””
Gloria Slap said:
“Cable said: “I got to know Ralf Speth well enough to know that he’s not bluffing when he says JLR’s position is that a hard Brexit would make the company’s position in the UK untenable.””
Cable seems to have your knack for reinterpreting other people's words. The only person who seems to have used the word 'untenable' is Cable.JLR themselves said that they would have to "change their spending profile" in response to difficult trading conditions. No surprise there. But no, that's not the same as their position in the UK being untenable, is it?
Gloria Slap said:
Some Germans kicking off a bit, but milder than JLR
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/jul/05/g...
Plus
“Cable said: “I got to know Ralf Speth well enough to know that he’s not bluffing when he says JLR’s position is that a hard Brexit would make the company’s position in the UK untenable.””
Cable, Vince Cable, that pillar of integrity and proven great judge of people's characters?https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/jul/05/g...
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“Cable said: “I got to know Ralf Speth well enough to know that he’s not bluffing when he says JLR’s position is that a hard Brexit would make the company’s position in the UK untenable.””
You're 'avin a bubble.
JLR boss Ralph Speth said - and this is a direct quote - “If I’m forced to go out because we don’t have the right deal, then we have to close plants here in the UK and it will be very, very sad.”
Clear enough for you, or does he actually need to come around your house and drill it into your skulls?
He’ll need an SDS, obviously.
Clear enough for you, or does he actually need to come around your house and drill it into your skulls?
He’ll need an SDS, obviously.
Edited by Gloria Slap on Thursday 5th July 23:47
t.Gloria Slap said:
JLR boss Ralph Speth said - and this is a direct quote - “If I’m forced to go out because we don’t have the right deal, then we have to close plants here in the UK and it will be very, very sad.”
Clear enough for you, or does he actually need to come around your house and drill it into your skulls?
He’ll need a SDS, obviously.
Who'd have thought Ralph Speth was into Drill.Clear enough for you, or does he actually need to come around your house and drill it into your skulls?
He’ll need a SDS, obviously.
If it was the right move to make they'd be doing it now, regardless, rather than wait.
If we leave with a bad deal and they've hung around it would be too late to sort and they'd be stuffed.
If they move now and we stay - and their various claims are correct - then they're still OK, complete with shiny new plant and cheaper workers.
So logic suggests that if they're aren't already in the process of relocating plants then the statement is actually meaningless. Either the numbers aren't as bad as they imply or the value of the existing plant, 'UK made' aspect and so on means it'd be worth sticking around in spite of any changes.
If we leave with a bad deal and they've hung around it would be too late to sort and they'd be stuffed.
If they move now and we stay - and their various claims are correct - then they're still OK, complete with shiny new plant and cheaper workers.
So logic suggests that if they're aren't already in the process of relocating plants then the statement is actually meaningless. Either the numbers aren't as bad as they imply or the value of the existing plant, 'UK made' aspect and so on means it'd be worth sticking around in spite of any changes.
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