Foreign policy and terrorism in UK - any connection?

[Alpinestars]

Einion Yrth said:

Alpinestars said:

Einion Yrth said:

gothatway said:

gadgetmac said:

Suicide missions are for those with switches bought from Maplins.

Got me wondering ... why suicide missions ? Would it have been that difficult to leave an unattended and un-noticed bag in the foyer of the concert venue ? Are suicide missions a peculiarity of ISIS/Muslim-inspired terrorists - I don't recall them being a feature in IRA campaigns for example. Is it really the 72 virgins guff ?

If IRA men blew themselves up, it was accidental, this current crop do it deliberately, and yes I think it's the prospect of glorious martyrdom (with or without varying numbers of virgins or white grapes) that makes it possible.

It makes it very dangerous and hard to fight. Someone who has no thought for his own life, isn't going to value anyone else's.

On that I cannot disagree ( you manc bd)

I'm having a good day today. Been called all sorts of stuff, so it's lovely when someone mentions that M word. Thanks xxx.

[Einion Yrth]

Alpinestars said:

I'm having a good day today. Been called all sorts of stuff, so it's lovely when someone mentions that M word. Thanks xxx.

I think being able to abuse each other verbally, over things like football, that really don't matter is so much better than trying to kill each other, don't you?

[Alpinestars]

Einion Yrth said:

Alpinestars said:

I'm having a good day today. Been called all sorts of stuff, so it's lovely when someone mentions that M word. Thanks xxx.

I think being able to abuse each other verbally, over things like football, that really don't matter is so much better than trying to kill each other, don't you?

Hell yeah.

[Deptford Draylons]

gadgetmac said:

I'm going to go back to my argument that nobody is listening to what the terrorists themselves are saying, backed up by most of the posts on this thread.

These 2, why did they kill Lee Rigby?

|https://thumbsnap.com/JO20TXbM[/url]

Anyone remember the live comments they made after the attack whilst waiting for the police to arrive. "Muslim children being killed abroad" etc.[url]

Asked if the attack was designed to intimidate the public, Adebolajo said: 'The truth is this, the Government and the British public have become aware of Jihad over the past years, a lot of people know the only reason it is occuring is because of foreign policy.'

Are we listening yet? Until we do it'll never end.

You are aware that complimenting his little speech explaining why he did this, Adebolajo also had on him a note further explaining his reasons which he justified by listing parts of the Quran to do so ?
His hardly a great case to cite when he is also basically saying it's Muslims versus everyone else and Muslim affairs. Again, you have to have the religion to get that worked up to kill someone because of what's happening in some far off land.
I take it we aren't just going to stop at the part where he blamed Cameron and do listen to his justification on his religious grounds too ?

[Lance Catamaran]

Alpinestars said:

Einion Yrth said:

gothatway said:

gadgetmac said:

Suicide missions are for those with switches bought from Maplins.

Got me wondering ... why suicide missions ? Would it have been that difficult to leave an unattended and un-noticed bag in the foyer of the concert venue ? Are suicide missions a peculiarity of ISIS/Muslim-inspired terrorists - I don't recall them being a feature in IRA campaigns for example. Is it really the 72 virgins guff ?

If IRA men blew themselves up, it was accidental, this current crop do it deliberately, and yes I think it's the prospect of glorious martyrdom (with or without varying numbers of virgins or white grapes) that makes it possible.

It makes it very dangerous and hard to fight. Someone who has no thought for his own life, isn't going to value anyone else's.

also very effective psychologically since the western mindset simply cannot grasp the concept of giving your life as a weapon. In WW2 kamikaze pilots were though to have their cockpits nailed shut to stop them escaping since we couldn't understand how they'd do it willingly.

[Alpinestars]

Deptford Draylons said:

gadgetmac said:

I'm going to go back to my argument that nobody is listening to what the terrorists themselves are saying, backed up by most of the posts on this thread.

These 2, why did they kill Lee Rigby?

|https://thumbsnap.com/JO20TXbM[/url]

Anyone remember the live comments they made after the attack whilst waiting for the police to arrive. "Muslim children being killed abroad" etc.[url]

Asked if the attack was designed to intimidate the public, Adebolajo said: 'The truth is this, the Government and the British public have become aware of Jihad over the past years, a lot of people know the only reason it is occuring is because of foreign policy.'

Are we listening yet? Until we do it'll never end.

You are aware that complimenting his little speech explaining why he did this, Adebolajo also had on him a note further explaining his reasons which he justified by listing parts of the Quran to do so ?
His hardly a great case to cite when he is also basically saying it's Muslims versus everyone else and Muslim affairs. Again, you have to have the religion to get that worked up to kill someone because of what's happening in some far off land.
I take it we aren't just going to stop at the part where he blamed Cameron and do listen to his justification on his religious grounds too ?

It's both.

[johnxjsc1985]

As far as I understand it we gave this man a home after fleeing Libya and then he had children born here . They had education, welfare and a home provided for them what has foreign policy got to do with him we could not have done more. How far back do people want to use Foreign Policy as an excuse... 100 years or even as far as nearly 300 years and the Slave Trade.
Its always somebody else fault isn't it.