Finsbury Park

[Disastrous]

Have we had any statements from the white community leaders condemning this?

I think the ordinary white-uk citizen just needs to be seen to do more to distance themselves from this sort of thing or it will create even more unrest...

[B17NNS]

The fool has just given the radicals exactly what they want.

[Cobnapint]

May announcing driver was a 'white man' and that he acted alone.

Don't remember skin tone ever being mentioned before in a formal speech from a PM.

[irocfan]

to a point whether it was actually terrorism is irrelevant - the issue is that innocent people were killed and hurt for no reason other than being 'different'.

The guy is a 'grade a' and deserves anything and everything that happens to him

[Tom Logan]

I feel this will be the start of many 'tit-for-tat' incidents in the foreseeable future.

[Mothersruin]

Disastrous said:

Have we had any statements from the white community leaders condemning this?

I think the ordinary white-uk citizen just needs to be seen to do more to distance themselves from this sort of thing or it will create even more unrest...

Some will be outraged, some will not give two hoots, some will vocally agree, many will silently agree.

Probably the same as the Muslims when they are the perps.

I detest Islam, and any other punchy religion, but this isn't the way forward.

[andymadmak]

Horrible incident. I hope that the injured make full recoveries.
I also hope that the perpetrator gets a long spell inside for this. (unless there are clear, previously identified mental health issues at play here, in which case suitable treatment will be required)

We cannot have revenge attacks from any part of the community. That way lies civil war.
For those saying he should have been shot, please think carefully about how Police could have safely (i.e., without risk to others) shot someone whilst he was being restrained by brave members of the local community?

Also, it is best that people like this stand trial. OK, there is no chance of that when someone is still armed with knives or guns or an exploding vest, but in circumstances like this, where the perpetrator is unarmed and has been detained, it is vital that the due process of law is followed.

[Countdown]

Alpinestars said:

Dindoit said:

Alpinestars said:

LocoCoco said:

bmw535i suspiciously not posted since this incident.

As well as many others who are at the forefront of most other terror attack threads. Conspicuously absent in words or condemnation.

For those thinking this is inevitable because of the Manchester and London attacks, I fear you are right. Many nutters will jump to a cause. The thoughts and retribution are no different to those in earlier terror attacks. Killing innocent people is always going to disenfranchise people. And some are stupid and nutty enough to channel the anger into killing other innocent people.

I wonder what pushes people like this into it?

Are you trying to justify it with that?

The mix of half-truths and complete lies don't exactly help to engender good feelings between the communities, does it?

i.e. explaining why something may have happened isn't justifying it.

[rscott]

Stickyfinger said:

Oakey said:

TTmonkey said:

Are the police going to smash down doors, arrest the family, friends, colleagues and neighbours of this guy down in Wales, keep them all in custody for 72 hours, and then quietly release them all without charges connected to the incident, I wonder....?

Is he 'already known to the police', etc?

If (as it seems) he is known to have mental "stability" problems....why would they ?

I am sure they will be interviewing them however as there may be information regarding right wing propaganda they would like to look at....as they do with Islamic extreme propaganda. (vastly more available from around the world as well know).

I think you can be assured that this chap has not been travelling to know terrorist hot spot etc....

Your attempt to "victimise and single out as racist" the actions of the police when faced with possible "cells" vrs a "nutter" is a very weak attempt to claim the race/Islamophobia card.

I find the gathering of a lynch mob (that the police struggled to contain) a worrying factor.

That'd be the "lynch mob" praised by the Met Police for their restraint?

http://news.met.police.uk/news/incident-in-seven-s...

met spokesman said:

I would like to thank those people who helped police in detaining the man and worked with officers to calmly and quickly get him into our custody.

Their restraint in the circumstances was commendable.

[andymadmak]

Disastrous said:

Have we had any statements from the white community leaders condemning this?

I think the ordinary white-uk citizen just needs to be seen to do more to distance themselves from this sort of thing or it will create even more unrest...

I would agree. And the good news is that condemnation has already been forthcoming from our leaders. Nobody (sensible) is claiming that the perpetrator has any excuses for what he has done. Most are calling for him to face trial. Nobody is claiming the he has been radicalised or that it is the fault of the wider community. Hell, nobody has even blamed the fact that he is welsh.

But then again I suspect you don't want to see that and that you're just trolling like you normally do

[LocoCoco]

andymadmak said:

Disastrous said:

Have we had any statements from the white community leaders condemning this?

I think the ordinary white-uk citizen just needs to be seen to do more to distance themselves from this sort of thing or it will create even more unrest...

I would agree. And the good news is that condemnation has already been forthcoming from our leaders. Nobody (sensible) is claiming that the perpetrator has any excuses for what he has done. Most are calling for him to face trial. Nobody is claiming the he has been radicalised or that it is the fault of the wider community. Hell, nobody has even blamed the fact that he is welsh.

But then again I suspect you don't want to see that and that you're just trolling like you normally do

How do you know he's Welsh? Have they named the guy yet?

[Disastrous]

andymadmak said:

Disastrous said:

Have we had any statements from the white community leaders condemning this?

I think the ordinary white-uk citizen just needs to be seen to do more to distance themselves from this sort of thing or it will create even more unrest...

I would agree. And the good news is that condemnation has already been forthcoming from our leaders. Nobody (sensible) is claiming that the perpetrator has any excuses for what he has done. Most are calling for him to face trial. Nobody is claiming the he has been radicalised or that it is the fault of the wider community. Hell, nobody has even blamed the fact that he is welsh.

But then again I suspect you don't want to see that and that you're just trolling like you normally do

There are a lot of people suggesting that whilst this might not be the 'fault' of the Muslim community, it's 'only to be expected'.

I'm sorry that you think I'm trolling but I find the double standards displayed on here hard to swallow. I don't see this as any different to the bridge attack.

[Deptford Draylons]

Wobbegong said:

Stickyfinger said:

TonyToniTone said:

p1stonhead said:

Way to promote unity Mr. Robinson

Classy

Are you saying he is actually wrong ?

(accepted he did post it for "his" reasons at this time)

He is not wrong, however he has neglected to mention the new leaders and Imams have transformed the mosque from what it was.

Unfortunately, its just moved to places like the Didsbury mosque. Tommy might want to keep his head down, the attacker will probably end up having links with the EDL/Britain First types

[Tom Logan]

andymadmak said:

I would agree. And the good news is that condemnation has already been forthcoming from our leaders. Nobody (sensible) is claiming that the perpetrator has any excuses for what he has done. Most are calling for him to face trial. Nobody is claiming the he has been radicalised or that it is the fault of the wider community. Hell, nobody has even blamed the fact that he is welsh.

But then again I suspect you don't want to see that and that you're just trolling like you normally do

shirley not ?

he'll be on ctf soon to slag off all the ph racist bigots.

[iphonedyou]

Alpinestars said:

Are you trying to justify it with that?

You've had a good think about this, and that's the inference you've arrived at?

Mods - are we any closer to sorting that IQ filter before granting NP&E posting privileges?

[rscott]

Deptford Draylons said:

Unfortunately, its just moved to places like the Didsbury mosque. Tommy might want to keep his head down, the attacker will probably end up having links with the EDL/Britain First types

Followers of the latter are already celebrating it on their Facebook page.

[Disastrous]

Tom Logan said:

andymadmak said:

I would agree. And the good news is that condemnation has already been forthcoming from our leaders. Nobody (sensible) is claiming that the perpetrator has any excuses for what he has done. Most are calling for him to face trial. Nobody is claiming the he has been radicalised or that it is the fault of the wider community. Hell, nobody has even blamed the fact that he is welsh.

But then again I suspect you don't want to see that and that you're just trolling like you normally do

shirley not ?

he'll be on ctf soon to slag off all the ph racist bigots.

I'm just as likely to slag them off on here Tom.

[GreatGranny]

Disastrous said:

Have we had any statements from the white community leaders condemning this?

I think the ordinary white-uk citizen just needs to be seen to do more to distance themselves from this sort of thing or it will create even more unrest...

White community leader?!?

What are you on about?

There is no "white community". Communities are normally multi everything, religion, colour, gender, sexuality etc...

Read you post back and think for a minute how idiotic it sounds.

[Deptford Draylons]

Disastrous said:

Have we had any statements from the white community leaders condemning this?

I think the ordinary white-uk citizen just needs to be seen to do more to distance themselves from this sort of thing or it will create even more unrest...

Some poor C of E vicar is going to having come out again and condemn the attack and deny he was giving radical Sunday morning sermons, or holding extremist fetes raising money for holy wars. All too common these days....

[p1stonhead]

GreatGranny said:

Disastrous said:

Have we had any statements from the white community leaders condemning this?

I think the ordinary white-uk citizen just needs to be seen to do more to distance themselves from this sort of thing or it will create even more unrest...

White community leader?!?

What are you on about?

There is no "white community". Communities are normally multi everything, religion, colour, gender, sexuality etc...

Read you post back and think for a minute how idiotic it sounds.

He was making a joke about when this happens and its by a Muslim and people come out and say the Muslim community should condemn it.