Cromer in lockdown
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Cambridgeshire Police with their finger on the pulse of the local community: http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/cambridge-new...
Sway said:
Not even that - but if said upstanding citizen decided to fight fire with fire, they would be reamed into next Tuesday. Same views on the police - I don't think this is their problem.
I love on a farming/fishing peninsula with a single 8 mile road in/out.
The other seaside villages along the coast appear to suffer these groups fairly regularly, yet in fifteen years I've never heard of them coming onto the peninsula.
Asked one of the fisherman down the local why that was, was told that a message was given several years ago that seems to have been remembered...
I do know the only thing that made some of the farmers whose land 'bridges' the peninsula communicate with each other like humans was the 'early warning network' whenever these groups were spotted. They'd block every access to fields within minutes with massive rocks, and the packhouse staff (and farm labourers) were all put on standby.
Unfortunately, sounds like if they were to come by now, my local would likely be much quieter, and we'd have the same regularity of issues that our neighbours do.
And Corbyn wanted to give them even greater protections. From what? Ze Germans?
I am part of a similar "farming network" here. Weekly texts with locations of these fine people. If an encampment within 40 miles is moved on, thousands of tonnes of farm machinery is moved within hours. Every field gate round here is either blocked by massive lumps of stone, or has a big roller (or similar) next to the gate. I love on a farming/fishing peninsula with a single 8 mile road in/out.
The other seaside villages along the coast appear to suffer these groups fairly regularly, yet in fifteen years I've never heard of them coming onto the peninsula.
Asked one of the fisherman down the local why that was, was told that a message was given several years ago that seems to have been remembered...
I do know the only thing that made some of the farmers whose land 'bridges' the peninsula communicate with each other like humans was the 'early warning network' whenever these groups were spotted. They'd block every access to fields within minutes with massive rocks, and the packhouse staff (and farm labourers) were all put on standby.
Unfortunately, sounds like if they were to come by now, my local would likely be much quieter, and we'd have the same regularity of issues that our neighbours do.
And Corbyn wanted to give them even greater protections. From what? Ze Germans?
Europa1 said:
Cambridgeshire Police with their finger on the pulse of the local community: http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/cambridge-new...
what a useless irocfan said:
Europa1 said:
Cambridgeshire Police with their finger on the pulse of the local community: http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/cambridge-new...
what a useless The guy comes from a farming background, he probably has more first hand experience about travellers than anyone from Amnesty International.
A Conservative MP has been criticised by Amnesty International and the Traveller community after comments he made in an interview. In a video interview with Core Politics, Douglas Ross was asked what he would prioritise if he were prime minister for a day.The newly elected representative for Moray replied: “Tougher enforcement against Gypsies and Travellers”. His answer sparked a backlash from rights groups and Travellers.
article said:
Speaking to openDemocracy, Chris Smith from the Travellers’ Times said: “Homelessness, Brexit and Terrorism, Mr Douglas Ross could have chosen any of these issues to deal with. Instead he chose to go with ‘Tougher enforcement against Gypsies and Travellers’ the UK’s largest indigenousness ethnic group, some of whom will be his constituents. “Blatant displays of antigypsyism by those meant to protect our rights only serves to contribute to the high levels of intolerance and racism directed towards Gypsies and Travellers in the UK today.” Mr Smith added: “Scottish Travellers now know who not to vote for.”
Read more at: http://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/new-tory-mp-...
Read more at: http://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/new-tory-mp-...
Edited by BlackLabel on Thursday 24th August 22:49
BlackLabel said:
A Conservative MP has been criticised by Amnesty International and the Traveller community after comments he made in an interview. In a video interview with Core Politics, Douglas Ross was asked what he would prioritise if he were prime minister for a day.The newly elected representative for Moray replied: “Tougher enforcement against Gypsies and Travellers”. His answer sparked a backlash from rights groups and Travellers.
he's got my votearticle said:
Speaking to openDemocracy, Chris Smith from the Travellers’ Times said: “Homelessness, Brexit and Terrorism, Mr Douglas Ross could have chosen any of these issues to deal with. Instead he chose to go with ‘Tougher enforcement against Gypsies and Travellers’ the UK’s largest indigenousness ethnic group, some of whom will be his constituents. “Blatant displays of antigypsyism by those meant to protect our rights only serves to contribute to the high levels of intolerance and racism directed towards Gypsies and Travellers in the UK today.” Mr Smith added: “Scottish Travellers now know who not to vote for.”
Read more at: http://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/new-tory-mp-...
Read more at: http://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/new-tory-mp-...
Members of the nomadic caravanning community make up:
- 1% of the UK population;
- 5% of the UK prison population;
- 60% have no formal qualifications (compared with 10% for the overall UK population).
Yipper said:
Members of the nomadic caravanning community make up:
Members of the nomadic caravanning community make up 0.1% of the UK population !!!- 1% of the UK population;
- 5% of the UK prison population;
- 60% have no formal qualifications (compared with 10% for the overall UK population).
So, 50 times more "travellers" (in proportion) are in prison than the general population!
But they do have a reputation for unlawful behaviour. But also a reputation for getting away with it. Does not compute!
Cliftonite said:
Yipper said:
Members of the nomadic caravanning community make up:
Members of the nomadic caravanning community make up 0.1% of the UK population !!!- 1% of the UK population;
- 5% of the UK prison population;
- 60% have no formal qualifications (compared with 10% for the overall UK population).
So, 50 times more "travellers" (in proportion) are in prison than the general population!
But they do have a reputation for unlawful behaviour. But also a reputation for getting away with it. Does not compute!
The thrust is clear. There are a lot of folks from the nomadic caravanning community in jail.
dandarez said:
<snip> I still go. But only ever if there is a good reason. When I do I always return with the sound of cop car sirens in my head. They do sound every minute don't they?
That's normal for all towns - this evening I think I've heard over 10 separate incidents in the town that required full application of torques and both blues and moosSleepy little market town in Norfolk.............
Every time an outbreak of traveller infection appears somewhere, the first thing that happens is the local plod issuing a limp-wristed response telling us that we must be aware of their 'needs', and that we must be careful not to offend them. Whilst they go about severely offending the local residents and normal human beings with their usual behavior of thieving, criminal damage, driving uninsured and untaxed vehicles, drunken disorder, defecating in public and leaving rubbish all over the place. How have they been allowed to get away with this? Stronger action is needed. Something along the lines of sending in a battalion of bulldozers and grab lifts and telling them to **** off back over the Irish sea and clear up before you go. If you don't your stty caravans will be crushed. It will never happen though .... mustn't offend them, mustn't offend them....
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