Elon Musk and Pedo Cave Rescuer Claim.
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Jonesy23 said:
He even buried it as a reply to some random supporter of his tweeting an Astroturfing support article by some other random (who Elon probably commissioned to write it) rather than making a proper post. And then buried it in the middle of a load of retweets.
The final paragraph is telling:"Overall, I think what Musk wants most is fairness. That doesn’t strike me as unreasonable. There’s a balance point between hero-worship and demonization, and we ought to do a better job of demanding that our press aim for it."
Gibbo998 said:
Vocal Minority said:
The man is a text book narcissist.
The slightest hint of a criticism, or of people not fawning over him and he basically has a meltdown/tantrum. Especially when, frankly, the whole thing was cynically engineered PR.
Who do you mean ? Trump or Muskrat ?
The slightest hint of a criticism, or of people not fawning over him and he basically has a meltdown/tantrum. Especially when, frankly, the whole thing was cynically engineered PR.
Who do you mean ? Trump or Muskrat ?
But it could apply either way.
desolate said:
Talksteer said:
As a Twitter user based in the US were a case to be brought he it would have to be filled in the US.
Are you sure about that?Suing someone where they don't have residency or property is kind of pointless.
Law courts by and large take the same view point.
Vocal Minority said:
The man is a text book narcissist.
The slightest hint of a criticism, or of people not fawning over him and he basically has a meltdown/tantrum. Especially when, frankly, the whole thing was cynically engineered PR.
He (Musk) must have taken leave of his senses to act as he did.The slightest hint of a criticism, or of people not fawning over him and he basically has a meltdown/tantrum. Especially when, frankly, the whole thing was cynically engineered PR.
If what I just read is correct, Tesla's share price fell 2.75% on Monday and is now down 4%.
Apart from that, Musk has given a general impression of being a fool.
fblm said:
Talksteer said:
If you fancy taking on a popular and wealthy US citizen for what will be a very small payout at the risk of being on the receiving end of a titanic legal bill go right ahead.
''False statements of fact'' that harm the reputation of an individual are not protected by the constitution. His popularity (debatable) and nationality are neither here nor there. Also; no win no fee. Edited by fblm on Tuesday 17th July 23:21
Nobody will offer no win no fee when fighting a billionaire as they could be on the hook for his massive legal fees.
Talksteer said:
If I sued you in Iraq would you be worried?
Suing someone where they don't have residency or property is kind of pointless.
Law courts by and large take the same view point.
It was a question.Suing someone where they don't have residency or property is kind of pointless.
Law courts by and large take the same view point.
I always thought there was an element of legal tourism when it came to Libel (and divorce)
Plus I feel sure that a top firm would take the case on a no win no fee basis.
Talksteer said:
fblm said:
Talksteer said:
If you fancy taking on a popular and wealthy US citizen for what will be a very small payout at the risk of being on the receiving end of a titanic legal bill go right ahead.
''False statements of fact'' that harm the reputation of an individual are not protected by the constitution. His popularity (debatable) and nationality are neither here nor there. Also; no win no fee. Edited by fblm on Tuesday 17th July 23:21
Nobody will offer no win no fee when fighting a billionaire as they could be on the hook for his massive legal fees.
No they wouldnt. It would be insane to be on the hook for the bills.
irocfan said:
p1stonhead said:
I said this a while back and people were arguing law firms would be lining up to take the case.
No they wouldnt. It would be insane to be on the hook for the bills.
however there's an admission of wrongdoing so all that's left is to agree damages....No they wouldnt. It would be insane to be on the hook for the bills.
Talksteer said:
No win no fee essentially means that the law firm takes the risk of the legal fees.
Nobody will offer no win no fee when fighting a billionaire as they could be on the hook for his massive legal fees.
Oh reilly... Nobody will offer no win no fee when fighting a billionaire as they could be on the hook for his massive legal fees.
reuters said:
Unsworth, who played a leading role in the rescue, said on Tuesday that he had been approached by British and American lawyers and would seek legal advice after Musk directed abuse at him on Twitter.
p1stonhead said:
Talksteer said:
fblm said:
Talksteer said:
If you fancy taking on a popular and wealthy US citizen for what will be a very small payout at the risk of being on the receiving end of a titanic legal bill go right ahead.
''False statements of fact'' that harm the reputation of an individual are not protected by the constitution. His popularity (debatable) and nationality are neither here nor there. Also; no win no fee. Edited by anonymous-user on Tuesday 17th July 23:21
Nobody will offer no win no fee when fighting a billionaire as they could be on the hook for his massive legal fees.
No they wouldnt. It would be insane to be on the hook for the bills.
Eta; Google "the American rule" attorney fees
Edited by anonymous-user on Wednesday 18th July 15:16
fblm said:
p1stonhead said:
Talksteer said:
fblm said:
Talksteer said:
If you fancy taking on a popular and wealthy US citizen for what will be a very small payout at the risk of being on the receiving end of a titanic legal bill go right ahead.
''False statements of fact'' that harm the reputation of an individual are not protected by the constitution. His popularity (debatable) and nationality are neither here nor there. Also; no win no fee. Edited by fblm on Tuesday 17th July 23:21
Nobody will offer no win no fee when fighting a billionaire as they could be on the hook for his massive legal fees.
No they wouldnt. It would be insane to be on the hook for the bills.
Unless I'm mistaken would it not also be an Insurer who takes on the risk rather than the law firm?
Jockman said:
Indeed. Billionaires, sorry, Engineers cannot act with impunity just because they have wealth.
Unless I'm mistaken would it not also be an Insurer who takes on the risk rather than the law firm?
US law different to UK. In US parties are generally responsible for their own costs unless contractually agreed or where the winning side is 'the public'/government.Unless I'm mistaken would it not also be an Insurer who takes on the risk rather than the law firm?
"The American rule"
Jockman said:
Indeed. Billionaires, sorry, Engineers cannot act with impunity just because they have wealth.
Unless I'm mistaken would it not also be an Insurer who takes on the risk rather than the law firm?
There is a whole industry built up around insuring and funding legal cases. It's massive in the US and growing here - not just for whiplash and PPI.Unless I'm mistaken would it not also be an Insurer who takes on the risk rather than the law firm?
Unsworth doesn't need to take it all the way to court. Musk will settle way before it gets a hearing date. He might not want to, but his other shareholders will force him to.
I can only imagine the distraction and scale of reputation damage his company's would suffer if he tried to defend publicly defaming Unsworth in front of 22 million people, just because he was told to stick it.
And to try and equate being told to 'stick it' equates to a sex act is a very immature argument for an adult to make.
The sooner Musk starts to heed the good advice he is currently ignoring, the better.
I can only imagine the distraction and scale of reputation damage his company's would suffer if he tried to defend publicly defaming Unsworth in front of 22 million people, just because he was told to stick it.
And to try and equate being told to 'stick it' equates to a sex act is a very immature argument for an adult to make.
The sooner Musk starts to heed the good advice he is currently ignoring, the better.
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