How do we think EU negotiations will go? (Vol 4)

How do we think EU negotiations will go? (Vol 4)

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PurpleMoonlight

22,362 posts

159 months

Sunday 29th July 2018
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amusingduck said:
I was being conservative wink

Let's say I'm in control of what you eat. I choose all of the meals. Wednesday is Fish & Chips day, which is great - you love fish & chips! Thursday and Friday however, are Frey Bentos, and Chicken Korma. You don't like Frey Bentos or Chicken Korma. You feel you'd be happier if you had control over your meals, so you take control back.

I pop in on a wednesday evening, and you're eating fking fish and chips! "What the fk are you doing PM, I thought you wanted control?!" I say. But the reason you wanted control wasn't the fish & chips, it was the Frey Bentos and Chicken Korma.

There's mushy peas everywhere. I warned you this would happen. Give me back control, we can go back to the Kormas. It's good for you wink
I'm glad we have control then.

I don't like curry.

tongue out

anonymous-user

56 months

Sunday 29th July 2018
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sidicks said:
PurpleMoonlight said:
Congratulations, only took you 9 pages.
Do you want any congratulations for making nonsense comments about 'what Brexiters wanted'?
Given the debate of the last few months do you not think it's fair to question an open border with no import checks?

wc98

10,606 posts

142 months

Sunday 29th July 2018
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PurpleMoonlight said:
djc206 said:
They can’t. They produce more than they could ever consume. Things like salad stuffs destined for the U.K. would just rot away, subsequent shipments would have to be redirected elsewhere but without the substantial market in the U.K. open to them there would be considerable over production and no doubt waste initially.
But that doesn't apply to UK food exports?
we won't be exporting any remember, we will need it to feed the starving masses wink

sidicks

25,218 posts

223 months

Sunday 29th July 2018
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desolate said:
Given the debate of the last few months do you not think it's fair to question an open border with no import checks?
Questioning certain aspects on the proposals? Yes
Making silly generic comments about 'what Brexiters wanted'? No

anonymous-user

56 months

Sunday 29th July 2018
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Mrr T said:
You must be much older than I am. I would not regard WW2 as living memory, except for a very few.
My mum and dad were around in WW2, thankfully they are still with us and hopefully have another 20 years+ of enjoying life ahead of them.

32% of females are expected to live to over 90, 21% of males are expected to live to over 90 using 2016 figures. That's a lot of people who have living memory of WW2 still with us.

crankedup

25,764 posts

245 months

Sunday 29th July 2018
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PurpleMoonlight said:
crankedup said:
Every single post from the so called remainers is filled with doom and gloom. Just over 40 short years of our Membership within a protectionist club has seen the U.K. being sucked in deeper to follow our rules. It simply has not worked for the majority of the U.K. electorate.
Amazing how remainers ignore the absolute mess the EU is in, you must know what I refer to.
And yet e pe t the U.K. to continue within a dying political experiment. Clearly, for me it’s worth a bit of short term pain for long term gain, it’s not simply money, although of course that is a major factor.
I hope that I will be around when the positives of our exit start bearing fruit.
What a coincidence.

I was just about to say that every post from leavers is filled with doom and gloom over the EU.

Funny old world huh.

laugh
Yup, it’s a polarised debate taking part at all levels of Society. From my perspective seeing how the EU has handled PIGS crisis was enough for me to vote leave. Of course so many other issues involved.
I simply cannot stomach the EU operation of protectionism markets, attempts to fit the same regulations into 27 Countries, the threat of a Federal State, and all the other leavers reasons for wanting to leave the club.

citizensm1th

8,371 posts

139 months

Sunday 29th July 2018
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wc98 said:
ou sont les biscuits said:
You might want to have a read at this. It looks like 'no deal' might be a tad more worrying that Waitrose running out of premier cru.....

http://www.politics.co.uk/blogs/2018/07/27/this-is...
i understand there would be issues with our exports but why would we starve ourselves and bring about rioting etc by holding up food imports from the eu into the uk ?
We the UK could open our border to all and any imports with zero checks and the ports would still be clogged to a standstill on the european side.

We could mitigate this by not exporting anything to europe but somehow i don't think that is going to happen.

anonymous-user

56 months

Sunday 29th July 2018
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crankedup said:
Ghibli said:
don'tbesilly said:
PurpleMoonlight said:
don'tbesilly said:
If the French want to make it difficult for other EU countries to export their goods to the UK, then whilst it will hurt the UK, the impact on their (French] neighbours won't be well received will it?
France would be complying with EU law, as will ports in Holland, Spain, etc.
Again, if that's what the EU decide to do, so be it.
How does us wanting to be a third country become the EUs fault ?
Because the rules and regulations of the club became unpalatable to the electorate of the U.k.
More effort and compromise through our membership from the club may have seen an entirely different outcome to where we are at the moment For the U.K. wishing to become a third Country sends a message to the EU, the club is not functioning as ordinary people want.
scratchchin so why would the French be making it difficult for other EU countries to Export to the UK?

Surely it would be the UK making it more difficult for EU countries to export to the UK.

PurpleMoonlight

22,362 posts

159 months

Sunday 29th July 2018
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sidicks said:
Questioning certain aspects on the proposals? Yes
Making silly generic comments about 'what Brexiters wanted'? No
Was taking back control not the primary reason for leaving according to Ashcroft?

anonymous-user

56 months

Sunday 29th July 2018
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JagLover said:
What day is horse burger day? smile
Every day in France. biggrin

don'tbesilly

14,001 posts

165 months

Sunday 29th July 2018
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PurpleMoonlight said:
sidicks said:
Questioning certain aspects on the proposals? Yes
Making silly generic comments about 'what Brexiters wanted'? No
Was taking back control not the primary reason for leaving according to Ashcroft?
Was it exclusively about 'taking back control' of the UK's borders, or did 'taking back control' cover a myriad of controls?

crankedup

25,764 posts

245 months

Sunday 29th July 2018
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don'tbesilly said:
crankedup said:
jsf said:
crankedup said:
I believe most of the paper pulp comes from Russia, EU will be upset that they will not be stting on the U.K. wink
The Cushelle factory in Manchester gets half its paper from Sweden, the other half from Brazil. 2 grades are used, long and short fibre. Combining them both in layers provides the strength and softness required. The Swedish stuff provides the strength so that's on the inside, the Brazilian stuff provides the softness, so that's on the outside.

So worst case scenario we end up with softer bog roll, but you'd have to be careful how hard you used it. biggrin

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0bcr3rj/ins...
Happy to be corrected.

So it’s unlikely that we will be short, which is comforting. Thoughts of going back to Izal grease proof from the 1950’s would be a nightmare scenario. hehe
Crap for crap, sore on the cheeks.

It is medicated apparently, so does offer some benefit, although Anusol or Sudacrem might prove better.
One last quip from me, ‘Happy Bottom’ bum butter. charliethebikemonger.com


sidicks

25,218 posts

223 months

Sunday 29th July 2018
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don'tbesilly said:
Was it exclusively about 'taking back control' of the UK's borders, or did 'taking back control' cover a myriad of controls?
Does 'taking back control' mean 'imposing lots of rules for the sake of it'?! Clearly it does to some people!

citizensm1th

8,371 posts

139 months

Sunday 29th July 2018
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jsf said:
JagLover said:
What day is horse burger day? smile
Every day in France. biggrin
And very nice it is too

psi310398

9,277 posts

205 months

Sunday 29th July 2018
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JagLover said:
wc98 said:
PurpleMoonlight said:
Seems we have project fear mk2.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6003837/Pl...


Does anyone know how 'no deal' (no withdrawal agreement or trade agreement) is being reported in the EU27.
i remember similar claims in the lead up to the millennium.
A very good analogy as that was a real issue that was both overblown by the media but also very much mitigated by a great deal of work to fix all of crucial systems that might be affected.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-30576670
IIRC, it was much overblown, hyped up by the government and provided a bonanza for a whole load of profiteering spivs.

anonymous-user

56 months

Sunday 29th July 2018
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don'tbesilly said:
Was it exclusively about 'taking back control' of the UK's borders, or did 'taking back control' cover a myriad of controls?
Was there anything on the ballot paper about taking back control of our borders?

mx5nut

5,404 posts

84 months

Sunday 29th July 2018
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bhstewie said:
why don't you think the Government wants to publicise its preparations for no deal?
It'll be similar to why they wouldn't publish their impact assessments - it will hurt some Leavers' feelings.

anonymous-user

56 months

Sunday 29th July 2018
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crankedup said:
don'tbesilly said:
crankedup said:
jsf said:
crankedup said:
I believe most of the paper pulp comes from Russia, EU will be upset that they will not be stting on the U.K. wink
The Cushelle factory in Manchester gets half its paper from Sweden, the other half from Brazil. 2 grades are used, long and short fibre. Combining them both in layers provides the strength and softness required. The Swedish stuff provides the strength so that's on the inside, the Brazilian stuff provides the softness, so that's on the outside.

So worst case scenario we end up with softer bog roll, but you'd have to be careful how hard you used it. biggrin

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0bcr3rj/ins...
Happy to be corrected.

So it’s unlikely that we will be short, which is comforting. Thoughts of going back to Izal grease proof from the 1950’s would be a nightmare scenario. hehe
Crap for crap, sore on the cheeks.

It is medicated apparently, so does offer some benefit, although Anusol or Sudacrem might prove better.
One last quip from me, ‘Happy Bottom’ bum butter. charliethebikemonger.com
That Cushelle factory is a great example of how Just In Time production works with WTO and EU based imports, its a 50/50 split. How the hell does that work? biggrin



psi310398

9,277 posts

205 months

Sunday 29th July 2018
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citizensm1th said:
And very nice it is too
I've inadvertently eaten horse (in France, natch). In fact, given that I've eaten in a lot of French restaurants, probably quite often.

It hasn't killed me.


don'tbesilly

14,001 posts

165 months

Sunday 29th July 2018
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jsf said:
JagLover said:
What day is horse burger day? smile
Every day in France. biggrin
Filet chevalin with French mustard in a baguette.

Apparently very good.

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