Javier Milei wins Argentina election
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I'm sure the 2 in 5 Argentinians livng in poverty are reassured by Rch's explanation a potential war involvng their children is merely a benign policy position as they pray there are no unforeseen consequences of desperately rolling the let's hope this right wing crackpot fixes everything dice.
President Merkin said:
I'm sure the 2 in 5 Argentinians livng in poverty are reassured by Rch's explanation a potential war involvng their children is merely a benign policy position as they pray there are no unforeseen consequences of desperately rolling the let's hope this right wing crackpot fixes everything dice.
His words, not mine. "Now we have to see how we are going to get them back. It is clear that the war option is not a solution.
"We had a war - that we lost - and now we have to make every effort to recover the islands through diplomatic channels."
President Merkin said:
I'm sure the 2 in 5 Argentinians livng in poverty are reassured by Rch's explanation a potential war involvng their children is merely a benign policy position as they pray there are no unforeseen consequences of desperately rolling the let's hope this right wing crackpot fixes everything dice.
They'll be reassured by the fact 70 years of peronism has impoverished the state to the point it has no functioning air force or navy, so cannot invade Uruguay, never mind islands 200 miles offshore.I see from elsewhere you are well up for the revolving ten dollar argument. You can have it for all I care. I'll merely repeat there is a danger in blindly cleving to someone you perceive to be on your end of the political spectrum to the exclusion of everything, becoming in itself a sufficient hill to die on.
It can lead you to the ridiculous point where you're all in defending a 52 year old grown man waving a Katana about while droning on about graveyards full of his enemies bodies. In other words, snap out of it & exercise some rational judgement. Or don't. I don't care either way but I do enjoy the absurdity.
QV something ludicrously irrelevant about tampons.
It can lead you to the ridiculous point where you're all in defending a 52 year old grown man waving a Katana about while droning on about graveyards full of his enemies bodies. In other words, snap out of it & exercise some rational judgement. Or don't. I don't care either way but I do enjoy the absurdity.
QV something ludicrously irrelevant about tampons.
President Merkin said:
I see from elsewhere you are well up for the revolving ten dollar argument. You can have it for all I care. I'll merely repeat there is a danger in blindly cleving to someone you perceive to be on your end of the political spectrum to the exclusion of everything, becoming in itself a sufficient hill to die on.
Is it worse than blindly assuming someone's going to invade the Falkland Islands based on a few silly headlines reporting (and twisting) him specifically saying he wouldn't?JuanCarlosFandango said:
Is it worse than blindly assuming someone's going to invade the Falkland Islands based on a few silly headlines reporting (and twisting) him specifically saying he wouldn't?
Sigh...I guess when you say a few silly headlines, you actually mean his own words reported accurtately. But no surprise you choose to miss the point.
If you like the idea of some out there wingnut populist because he likes to bang on about lefties & libtards, then you're going to have to reconcile that when he expresses support for something that directly contradicts our own interests, irrespective of the likelihood of that thing happening. And in doing so, you'll be tying yourself up in knots.
I.e. exercise some judgement.
President Merkin said:
I'll merely repeat there is a danger in blindly cleving to someone you perceive to be on your end of the political spectrum to the exclusion of everything, becoming in itself a sufficient hill to die on.
I don't trust any politician further than I could throw them. Do I believe his intentions, yes, but just as you should judge any political program by its results not its intentions, I fully expect to be let down. I agree with a lot of his Libertarian rhetoric on economics and fundamental freedoms of self. I make no denial of that. In that sense I am a single issue voter. If he achieves this, I think it will be good for Argentina.
President Merkin said:
I guess when you say a few silly headlines, you actually mean his own words reported accurtately. But no surprise you choose to miss the point.
Milei: "War is not an option, we have to use diplomacy"You: "He's going to invade the Falklands!"
:shrug:
He looks like someone out of a Little Britain sketch, ironically.
It's a real shame, Argentina is a beautiful place and I really liked the people when I was there. That was 2017, money was rationed, think I could take out 70 or 90 dollars per day max, I remember the supermarket being atleast double the cost of a similar shop at home.
The place had an air of being f
ked about it then.
It's a real shame, Argentina is a beautiful place and I really liked the people when I was there. That was 2017, money was rationed, think I could take out 70 or 90 dollars per day max, I remember the supermarket being atleast double the cost of a similar shop at home.
The place had an air of being f
ked about it then. RichTT said:
You: "He's going to invade the Falklands!"
:shrug:
Zzzz. If you're going to lie, at least do so in a way that isn't easily searchable just a couple of posts above. Otoh, it's an excellent example of the contortions you have to put yourself through in order to maintain the ridiculous duality I explained above. :shrug:
JuanCarlosFandango said:
Civic
Is it automatically better in North Korea? Or under the Arab Socialist Ba'arth Party in Syria? Cuba or Hamas?
"The right" certainly don't have a monopoly on being poor judges of character, or leading countries to disaster.
Yep, well aware of that, that's why politically I'm what you'd probably deride as a "Centrist". Is it automatically better in North Korea? Or under the Arab Socialist Ba'arth Party in Syria? Cuba or Hamas?
"The right" certainly don't have a monopoly on being poor judges of character, or leading countries to disaster.
The lesson I take is that it's a bad idea to be even remotely happy about a far-right or far-left government taking root anywhere, both have been tested several times over and none have provided a satisfactory result. So it confuses me when I see the arrival of someone like this guy welcomed and celebrated. It's only going to end one way. Centre-left and centre-right governments seem to be the only kind which provide any kind of progression and stability for a country, seems pretty obvious top me. Anyone coming up with this guy's brand of madcap extremist nonsense is an absolute danger, it's been proven time and again. How much more evidence do you, or indeed far-left fans, need.
I know, this is the bit where you tell me again that he isn't far-right. Sigh.
President Merkin said:
Zzzz. If you're going to lie, at least do so in a way that isn't easily searchable just a couple of posts above. Otoh, it's an excellent example of the contortions you have to put yourself through in order to maintain the ridiculous duality I explained above.
President Merkin said:
I'm sure the 2 in 5 Argentinians livng in poverty are reassured by Rch's explanation a potential war involvng their children is merely a benign policy position as they pray there are no unforeseen consequences of desperately rolling the let's hope this right wing crackpot fixes everything dice.
It was you that brought up War, not him in any quotes I've seen. If you have evidence of his potential warmongering please share. CivicDuties said:
Yep, well aware of that, that's why politically I'm what you'd probably deride as a "Centrist".
The lesson I take is that it's a bad idea to be even remotely happy about a far-right or far-left government taking root anywhere, both have been tested several times over and none have provided a satisfactory result. So it confuses me when I see the arrival of someone like this guy welcomed and celebrated. It's only going to end one way. Centre-left and centre-right governments seem to be the only kind which provide any kind of progression and stability for a country, seems pretty obvious top me. Anyone coming up with this guy's brand of madcap extremist nonsense is an absolute danger, it's been proven time and again. How much more evidence do you, or indeed far-left fans, need.
I know, this is the bit where you tell me again that he isn't far-right. Sigh.
I wouldn't deride the idea of centrist in so far as that means a balanced and pragmatic view, avoiding impractical ideological extremes. When it just means sticking with a discredited incumbent because some reporter decried any alternative as somehow extreme and dangerous then "extreme centrism" becomes a danger in itself. The lesson I take is that it's a bad idea to be even remotely happy about a far-right or far-left government taking root anywhere, both have been tested several times over and none have provided a satisfactory result. So it confuses me when I see the arrival of someone like this guy welcomed and celebrated. It's only going to end one way. Centre-left and centre-right governments seem to be the only kind which provide any kind of progression and stability for a country, seems pretty obvious top me. Anyone coming up with this guy's brand of madcap extremist nonsense is an absolute danger, it's been proven time and again. How much more evidence do you, or indeed far-left fans, need.
I know, this is the bit where you tell me again that he isn't far-right. Sigh.
https://en.mercopress.com/2023/09/12/we-will-never...
Who is banging the war drum again?
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