Somali pirates could kill yacht couple within days.
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Coming up for a year now that this couple have been held hostage. Media coverage seems to have died down too.
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XJSJohn said:
...standard hunting rifles and shot guns (i.e. normal "hobby" sports guns with appropriate paperwork will be OK, poop deck mounted sub machine guns are going a tad beyond the usual mainstream sports shooter 
(plus they would rust in the damp salt water environment ..... )
How might they fare in a dry salt water environment? (plus they would rust in the damp salt water environment ..... )
Tiggsy said:
Thinking aloud...if that was your folks, what would you do?
Surely there are people you can hire? A Team styleeee?
There must be mercenary groups out there willing to take on the challenge. Only problem is you need ridiculous sums of money and have to know where to look.Surely there are people you can hire? A Team styleeee?
(or maybe I've been watching too many movies)
Edited by Victor McDade on Friday 10th September 18:30
One silver lining is the huge Korean, Japanese and Russian fish trawlers are not fishing those waters so the fish stocks are increasing. Which is ironic because the Somali fisherman turned to more $$ catches when those same boats wiped out their lively hood in the past.
Good for the planet ironically !
Andy
Good for the planet ironically !
Andy
Radio Times said:
Monday 13 September
10:00pm - 11:00pm
BBC4
A maritime lawyer based in London is exasperated after yet more dead-end attempts to negotiate with Somali pirates, who are raking in fortunes in ransoms from hijacking cargo ships.
Clearly angry, he says: "There is no structure or reason to the way they approach things."
Crews can be held for months at a time at gunpoint by pirates off their heads on drink and drugs. One shipping executive says that he and his colleagues have little option but to pay up.
"When your ship has been hijacked, you can't call 911. You are on your own."
This fascinating film goes deep into the heart of Somali pirate country, examining why and how this lucrative "industry" can flourish so unfettered: easily enough it turns out, in a desperately poor lawless country with no government to speak of.
Radio Times reviewer - Alison Graham
What is it about this particular event of piracy that prevents an SAS-style rescue like the one the SEAL team did awhile back on one of these episodes?
jshell said:
Watch 'Blackhawk Down' for the answer to that one. The SEAL's were humped last time there. There is no 'sneaking' into an area where people live on the streets, there's eyes everywhere and every-fecker has an 'AK'.
That is not always a good analogy. I submit that if the situation warrants it, perhaps it is time for some sort of rescue operation.Edited by Jimbeaux on Monday 13th September 21:18
Someone on the other thread mentioned a 'super injunction' is in place to stop the media reporting on this. Sounds mad but then if you google news search 'Paul and Rachel Chandler' very little comes up at all. The UK media are just not reporting on it.
What purpose would an injunction serve - keep the Somali pirates out of the loop or prevent any criticism and embarrassment for our government?
What purpose would an injunction serve - keep the Somali pirates out of the loop or prevent any criticism and embarrassment for our government?
Victor McDade said:
Someone on the other thread mentioned a 'super injunction' is in place to stop the media reporting on this. Sounds mad but then if you google news search 'Paul and Rachel Chandler' very little comes up at all. The UK media are just not reporting on it.
What purpose would an injunction serve - keep the Somali pirates out of the loop or prevent any criticism and embarrassment for our government?
I think there is just no news, none UK websites aren't reporting anything either.What purpose would an injunction serve - keep the Somali pirates out of the loop or prevent any criticism and embarrassment for our government?
there are a substantial number of hostages being held around the world, quite a few are travellers in south america, its not just the yacht couple that could be subject to either cash negotiations or an "all guns blazing" style rescue. some of these hostages get moved around countires like boliiva as part of drugs deals. its pretty harrowing.
i feel very sorry for them, if i am right they were captured some 400 miles off the coast so they had every right to be where they were - although 400 miles would be too close for me knowing how the "mother ships" operate - but still, they were very unfortunate.
i feel very sorry for them, if i am right they were captured some 400 miles off the coast so they had every right to be where they were - although 400 miles would be too close for me knowing how the "mother ships" operate - but still, they were very unfortunate.
Victor McDade said:
Tiggsy said:
Thinking aloud...if that was your folks, what would you do?
Surely there are people you can hire? A Team styleeee?
There must be mercenary groups out there willing to take on the challenge. Only problem is you need ridiculous sums of money and have to know where to look.Surely there are people you can hire? A Team styleeee?
(or maybe I've been watching too many movies)
hairykrishna said:
Victor McDade said:
Tiggsy said:
Thinking aloud...if that was your folks, what would you do?
Surely there are people you can hire? A Team styleeee?
There must be mercenary groups out there willing to take on the challenge. Only problem is you need ridiculous sums of money and have to know where to look.Surely there are people you can hire? A Team styleeee?
(or maybe I've been watching too many movies)
Didn't you see the programme last night? Nearly every male walking around the streets is armed to the teeth so landing a helicopter amongst that lot would be like sticking your hand in a wasps nest!
No point in rescuing somebody if you don't know where they are and you would seriously run the risk of getting killed.
No point in rescuing somebody if you don't know where they are and you would seriously run the risk of getting killed.
Mr E Driver said:
No point in rescuing somebody if you don't know where they are and you would seriously run the risk of getting killed.
This.At the moment they're relatively safe in the way that the pirates still expect them to be worth a few million.
If it looks like they're going to lose them then why would they be worth anything? Better to make an example of them.
When the pirates started taking ships the amount they asked for a ransom to give the ship back was relatively small and as the ship owners paid up then the ransoms increased (up to £7m) and some have been paid because it was more cost effective to pay up than not to.
The pirates have made a big mistake taking the couple thinking the UK government would pay the ransom of £7m which was the original ransom they asked to get them back.
From the gov pov there is no reason to pay up but every reason not to as it will only encourage them.
It is costing money to keep them and hopefully it will dawn on these stupid brain dead pirates that they have made a mistake there is no value in the hostages and they will have to either hand them back alive with no payment or kill them.
The pirates have made a big mistake taking the couple thinking the UK government would pay the ransom of £7m which was the original ransom they asked to get them back.
From the gov pov there is no reason to pay up but every reason not to as it will only encourage them.
It is costing money to keep them and hopefully it will dawn on these stupid brain dead pirates that they have made a mistake there is no value in the hostages and they will have to either hand them back alive with no payment or kill them.
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