£7.50p a pint. That’s it I’m out
Discussion
Scabutz said:
Eldest wanted to go to the pub as youngest was trick and treating.
Went for a couple of diet cokes at the local st pit. £3.05 for a coke. I can understand beer production can be expensive but 3 fking quid for some post mix syrup and fizzy water.
It's annoying as that pub used to be st, but cheap. Now it's just st.
Soft drinks are always hideously expensive in pubs which is why I stick to beer. It’s what pubs are for.Went for a couple of diet cokes at the local st pit. £3.05 for a coke. I can understand beer production can be expensive but 3 fking quid for some post mix syrup and fizzy water.
It's annoying as that pub used to be st, but cheap. Now it's just st.
Driver101 said:
Hugo Stiglitz said:
Driver101 said:
As Tamore says Wetherspoons expect their beer for next to nothing. I've heard of other small breweries being asked to supply beer at a loss. Then when they are selling it in the pubs you've got discounts through CAMRA. Their practices are not good for breweries or other pubs.
I don't think that it's the posher pubs that are struggling the most. The pubs I'm seeing closing are the older tired pubs. I don't think that the price is the biggest factor when choosing where to go out.
Like anything in life Spoons aren't the only pub for miles - don't like their price, don't sell to them then I say. I don't think that it's the posher pubs that are struggling the most. The pubs I'm seeing closing are the older tired pubs. I don't think that the price is the biggest factor when choosing where to go out.
Lots of start up brewers started over the last few years.
Breweries are closing at an increasing rate.
I don't understand why so many people that claim to be beer fans are happy to cause harm to the industry.
Hugo Stiglitz said:
Driver101 said:
That is one of the things for me as well. A good pub might be a £1-2 more expensive per drink, but for a good night out that is worth it. Unless you're drinking to excess then the cost difference isn't significant.
A lot of the Wetherspoons pubs are just large scale drinking dens. They pull in all the stag parties, pre drinkers tanking up and alcoholics as they are the cheap option.
Too much of the antisocial behaviour and drunkenness stems from pubs like Wetherspoons selling too much drink too cheaply.
Have you ever been inside one?A lot of the Wetherspoons pubs are just large scale drinking dens. They pull in all the stag parties, pre drinkers tanking up and alcoholics as they are the cheap option.
Too much of the antisocial behaviour and drunkenness stems from pubs like Wetherspoons selling too much drink too cheaply.
I've never had an issue in one.
Of the other pubs we have 2 are fighty places and one is trying for London prices with no atmosphere (or customers)
It does vary though, the next town over to me the spoons is an absolute hole!
blingybongy said:
Driver101 said:
I think there should be minimum pricing in pubs and shops. When drink is too cheap it only encourages excessive drinking.
Alcohol should be more expensive to help contribute to all the knock on issues it causes. We shouldn't have pints at £1.30 or £1.50.
Fine idea.Alcohol should be more expensive to help contribute to all the knock on issues it causes. We shouldn't have pints at £1.30 or £1.50.
Edited by wibble cb on Wednesday 1st November 23:24
Re-read the entire thread. Two strands emerge: “ I don’t mind paying more for a good ambiance with attractive customers” and “ I’m not going to be ripped off, I’m going to Wetherspoons”. The first is fine if it’s a nice night out, or in an upmarket food led pub where you go for a civilised evening with partner, or on a birthday, etc where you factor in the ambience surcharge. However, the second scenario applies when you visit a street corner local, or pop in on the way home for a swift drink(s).In the latter case, the prices are becoming excessive and consequently, there are fewer customers in these ‘real’ pubs, and for a shorter time. One of the many posters pointed out that price increases are not the answer to lack of so-called footfall. Yes, we all know about energy prices, but if beer prices are realistic, a punters one pint can become four, etc…
K50 DEL said:
Hugo Stiglitz said:
Driver101 said:
That is one of the things for me as well. A good pub might be a £1-2 more expensive per drink, but for a good night out that is worth it. Unless you're drinking to excess then the cost difference isn't significant.
A lot of the Wetherspoons pubs are just large scale drinking dens. They pull in all the stag parties, pre drinkers tanking up and alcoholics as they are the cheap option.
Too much of the antisocial behaviour and drunkenness stems from pubs like Wetherspoons selling too much drink too cheaply.
Have you ever been inside one?A lot of the Wetherspoons pubs are just large scale drinking dens. They pull in all the stag parties, pre drinkers tanking up and alcoholics as they are the cheap option.
Too much of the antisocial behaviour and drunkenness stems from pubs like Wetherspoons selling too much drink too cheaply.
I've never had an issue in one.
Of the other pubs we have 2 are fighty places and one is trying for London prices with no atmosphere (or customers)
It does vary though, the next town over to me the spoons is an absolute hole!
joshcowin said:
Driver101 said:
Hugo Stiglitz said:
Driver101 said:
As Tamore says Wetherspoons expect their beer for next to nothing. I've heard of other small breweries being asked to supply beer at a loss. Then when they are selling it in the pubs you've got discounts through CAMRA. Their practices are not good for breweries or other pubs.
I don't think that it's the posher pubs that are struggling the most. The pubs I'm seeing closing are the older tired pubs. I don't think that the price is the biggest factor when choosing where to go out.
Like anything in life Spoons aren't the only pub for miles - don't like their price, don't sell to them then I say. I don't think that it's the posher pubs that are struggling the most. The pubs I'm seeing closing are the older tired pubs. I don't think that the price is the biggest factor when choosing where to go out.
Lots of start up brewers started over the last few years.
Breweries are closing at an increasing rate.
I don't understand why so many people that claim to be beer fans are happy to cause harm to the industry.
If something is cheap people are willing to ignore and tolerate so much more.
Edited by Driver101 on Saturday 11th November 08:17
Lester H said:
Re-read the entire thread. Two strands emerge: “ I don’t mind paying more for a good ambiance with attractive customers” and “ I’m not going to be ripped off, I’m going to Wetherspoons”. The first is fine if it’s a nice night out, or in an upmarket food led pub where you go for a civilised evening with partner, or on a birthday, etc where you factor in the ambience surcharge. However, the second scenario applies when you visit a street corner local, or pop in on the way home for a swift drink(s).In the latter case, the prices are becoming excessive and consequently, there are fewer customers in these ‘real’ pubs, and for a shorter time. One of the many posters pointed out that price increases are not the answer to lack of so-called footfall. Yes, we all know about energy prices, but if beer prices are realistic, a punters one pint can become four, etc…
But the cost to produce the pint is high! From hop prices to transport cost prices are high! Brewing is a high energy process. The thing that dictates beer cost is production cost! W11PEL said:
Actually I was flat hunting in Eastern Europe a few weeks ago.
£2 a pint there.
Will advise on Mexico when I get there!
I was in Pilsen a few years ago and was shocked that beer prices had gone up by about a third since my previous visit. I calmed down when I realised it was still only around £1.50 a pint! £2 a pint there.
Will advise on Mexico when I get there!
Went to a modern fancy woodfired pizza place with the missus recently. Wine and beer was £6 as expected, San Pelly was £3 seemed to be the norm.
What really left a bad taste in my mouth was the missus ask for a jug of tap water as she always does, it has always been free even in high end establishments.
This place put on the receipt ' Water X2' -£5 when I questioned it they said "didn't you have two water bottles of tonic", then when I went up to pay they did that thing I've seen many times when staff get rumbled, all quiet and awkward.
What really left a bad taste in my mouth was the missus ask for a jug of tap water as she always does, it has always been free even in high end establishments.
This place put on the receipt ' Water X2' -£5 when I questioned it they said "didn't you have two water bottles of tonic", then when I went up to pay they did that thing I've seen many times when staff get rumbled, all quiet and awkward.
sutoka said:
Went to a modern fancy woodfired pizza place with the missus recently. Wine and beer was £6 as expected, San Pelly was £3 seemed to be the norm.
What really left a bad taste in my mouth was the missus ask for a jug of tap water as she always does, it has always been free even in high end establishments.
This place put on the receipt ' Water X2' -£5 when I questioned it they said "didn't you have two water bottles of tonic", then when I went up to pay they did that thing I've seen many times when staff get rumbled, all quiet and awkward.
I though by law, tap water is free?What really left a bad taste in my mouth was the missus ask for a jug of tap water as she always does, it has always been free even in high end establishments.
This place put on the receipt ' Water X2' -£5 when I questioned it they said "didn't you have two water bottles of tonic", then when I went up to pay they did that thing I've seen many times when staff get rumbled, all quiet and awkward.
Alickadoo said:
I though by law, tap water is free?
It is, this is the practice of an 'error' on the bill in the hope that the customer doesn't spot it, doesn't now the rules, or is too timid to question it. On the subject of beer prices, just back from Bilbao and what a refreshing change that was, glass of wine or a small beer, €2.50 a glass everywhere, even the Airport
Edited by raceboy on Wednesday 22 November 10:55
raceboy said:
On the subject of beer prices, just back from Bilbao and what a refreshing change that was, glass of wine or a small beer, €2.50 a glass everywhere, even the Airport : yes:
The promenade in Kato Paphos (Cyprus), all the cafes were around 2.80 to 3.10 euros for a pint of Keo (local lager).Cotty said:
joshcowin said:
But the cost to produce the pint is high! From hop prices to transport cost prices are high! Brewing is a high energy process. The thing that dictates beer cost is production cost!
No it isn't. A pint of lager is about £6 in a pub but you can buy an 18 cans for £14. If 2 pints are sold in a pub and one costs less to produce (there are many reasons that may be) then it is likely that the cheaper to produce will retail for less!
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