Scottish Politics / Independence - Vol 12
Discussion
alangla said:
Taffer said:
Therein lies the problem - they're not allowed to spec or order their own vessels. Any normal shipowners would have cancelled the Ferguson's pair long ago and committed to more orders of a common class of vessel (e.g. Stena Ferries with the E-Flexer design).
Did you not say something a while ago along the lines of the idea of paying Remontowa (who should have won the s
tbox/Rustbox contract) to churn out clones of Finlaggan over & over again?alangla said:
Did you not say something a while ago along the lines of the idea of paying Remontowa (who should have won the stbox/Rustbox contract) to churn out clones of Finlaggan over & over again?
When the Finlaggan was built, Remontowa apparently offered to build sister ships at much reduced prices (as the design work was done, so just materials and labour). CMAL didn't take them up on the offer, as there was no funding/plan in place for further vessels.tbox/Rustbox contract) to churn out clones of Finlaggan over & over again?A couple of years down the line, and the Ullapool-Stornoway ferry, the Loch Seaforth was ordered, another one-off design which, while a great ship, was vastly more expensive than it needed to be.
Lessons learned? Well, the next ships ordered were the Glen Sannox/Rosa......
hidetheelephants said:
the subsidy paid to CalMac has ballooned under the SNP yet this has received little scrutiny.
How much of this is the RET though? All well and good in theory but the fact is transport to remote islands is not cheap. I sort of preferrred the Outer Hebrides before RET. Less traffic in summer. As a cyclist great. As a car based tourist also great. Obviously cheap stuff is good but it isn't free. Cash spent on the RET couldn't be spent elsewhere. Like renewing old ferries sooner for example.Last time I was coming back from Islay I heard a couple of locals moaning about how busy the ferries were post RET. Can't have it both ways. Cheap attracts traffic. Good for tourism. Not good for islanders wanting short notice places in peak summer months.
irc said:
hidetheelephants said:
the subsidy paid to CalMac has ballooned under the SNP yet this has received little scrutiny.
How much of this is the RET though? All well and good in theory but the fact is transport to remote islands is not cheap. I sort of preferrred the Outer Hebrides before RET. Less traffic in summer. As a cyclist great. As a car based tourist also great. Obviously cheap stuff is good but it isn't free. Cash spent on the RET couldn't be spent elsewhere. Like renewing old ferries sooner for example.Last time I was coming back from Islay I heard a couple of locals moaning about how busy the ferries were post RET. Can't have it both ways. Cheap attracts traffic. Good for tourism. Not good for islanders wanting short notice places in peak summer months.
Watch out Keir Starmer. Patrick Harvie of the SCottish Greens (zero MPS) is going to pressure the incoming Labour govt.
Quake in your boots.
https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/24235432.patri...
Quake in your boots.
https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/24235432.patri...
irc said:
Watch out Keir Starmer. Patrick Harvie of the SCottish Greens (zero MPS) is going to pressure the incoming Labour govt.
Quake in your boots.
https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/24235432.patri...
A signal that Patrick Harvie and the Scottish Marxist (who no longer have any affiliation with the) "Greens" know their position in the Scottish Government will be on a shoogly peg when Labour boot the SNP's baws in Scotland at the next General Election.Quake in your boots.
https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/24235432.patri...
As I said previously, the SNP's best shout would be to ditch Humza and the Bute House Agreement and make the best of a minority administration under a new leader for the next 2 years to give them a chance to retain Holyrood by distancing themselves from his electoral failure and legacy at the GE.
Alas I suspect Dumza will cling to power and soldier on with the Marxist's support against a backdrop of a bust mandate by his own measures.
Evercross said:
irc said:
Watch out Keir Starmer. Patrick Harvie of the SCottish Greens (zero MPS) is going to pressure the incoming Labour govt.
Quake in your boots.
https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/24235432.patri...
A signal that Patrick Harvie and the Scottish Marxist (who no longer have any affiliation with the) "Greens" know their position in the Scottish Government will be on a shoogly peg when Labour boot the SNP's baws in Scotland at the next General Election.Quake in your boots.
https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/24235432.patri...
As I said previously, the SNP's best shout would be to ditch Humza and the Bute House Agreement and make the best of a minority administration under a new leader for the next 2 years to give them a chance to retain Holyrood by distancing themselves from his electoral failure and legacy at the GE.
Alas I suspect Dumza will cling to power and soldier on with the Marxist's support against a backdrop of a bust mandate by his own measures.
Evercross said:
The single issue that exposed him for me was his unwavering support for the "Green" policies channelling through the SNP Scottish Government (he liked to remind us that he was a Scottish Green and not an SNP voter), right up to the point where his income meant he was hitting that marginal 50%+ tax/NI bracket and he became all ears about how to avoid it.
That was an absolute belter. Up until that point he gave a convincing impersonation of struggling by on minimum wage or not much more.Unprincipled for sure - he was absolutely fine with the tax regime as long as it penalized the Rich Toary Basturds, not so much when it began to affect him. LIke so many Nationalists, they want the free-sweeties-for-all policies, but think someone else should pay.
Anyway. Greens.
irc said:
Watch out Keir Starmer. Patrick Harvie of the SCottish Greens (zero MPS) is going to pressure the incoming Labour govt.
Quake in your boots.
https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/24235432.patri...
All I'm reminded of there is Scrappy-Doo. Noisy, irritating, pointless threat.Quake in your boots.
https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/24235432.patri...
They know their time of power is at an end - they were in a position of having disproporionate power due the SNP deal, and that deal will have no value soon.
ZedLeg's posts are still available on PH to quote.
Can someone please quote his statement that indicates he is/was facing 50%+ tax?
I never saw him claim he was struggling by on minimum wage, or close to it. Rather, on a few occasions, I recall him mentioning a salary of £30k+ within the context of it having taken him a long time to get to that point after essentially pissing about - paraphrasing, but that was the essence of it, as I recall.
If I'm ultimately proved wrong, I will be more than happy to concede.
As it is, however, this is just a pile-in on someone who isn't around to defend themselves.
Can someone please quote his statement that indicates he is/was facing 50%+ tax?
I never saw him claim he was struggling by on minimum wage, or close to it. Rather, on a few occasions, I recall him mentioning a salary of £30k+ within the context of it having taken him a long time to get to that point after essentially pissing about - paraphrasing, but that was the essence of it, as I recall.
If I'm ultimately proved wrong, I will be more than happy to concede.
As it is, however, this is just a pile-in on someone who isn't around to defend themselves.
Edited by TheJimi on Saturday 6th April 23:33
TheJimi said:
ZedLeg's posts are still available on PH to quote.
Can someone please quote his statement that indicates he is/was facing 50%+ tax?
I never saw him claim he was struggling by on minimum wage, or close to it. Rather, on a few occasions, I recall him mentioning a salary of £30k+ within the context of it having taken him a long time to get to that point after essentially pissing about - paraphrasing, but that was the essence of it, as I recall.
If I'm ultimately proved wrong, I will be more than happy to concede.
As it is, however, this is just a pile-in on someone who isn't around to defend themselves.
Give it a rest. This thread is about Scotland, not a single Scot. Take your crusade over Zed somewhere else where it bores fewer people. Can someone please quote his statement that indicates he is/was facing 50%+ tax?
I never saw him claim he was struggling by on minimum wage, or close to it. Rather, on a few occasions, I recall him mentioning a salary of £30k+ within the context of it having taken him a long time to get to that point after essentially pissing about - paraphrasing, but that was the essence of it, as I recall.
If I'm ultimately proved wrong, I will be more than happy to concede.
As it is, however, this is just a pile-in on someone who isn't around to defend themselves.
Edited by TheJimi on Saturday 6th April 23:33
CharlesdeGaulle said:
TheJimi said:
ZedLeg's posts are still available on PH to quote.
Can someone please quote his statement that indicates he is/was facing 50%+ tax?
I never saw him claim he was struggling by on minimum wage, or close to it. Rather, on a few occasions, I recall him mentioning a salary of £30k+ within the context of it having taken him a long time to get to that point after essentially pissing about - paraphrasing, but that was the essence of it, as I recall.
If I'm ultimately proved wrong, I will be more than happy to concede.
As it is, however, this is just a pile-in on someone who isn't around to defend themselves.
Give it a rest. This thread is about Scotland, not a single Scot. Take your crusade over Zed somewhere else where it bores fewer people. Can someone please quote his statement that indicates he is/was facing 50%+ tax?
I never saw him claim he was struggling by on minimum wage, or close to it. Rather, on a few occasions, I recall him mentioning a salary of £30k+ within the context of it having taken him a long time to get to that point after essentially pissing about - paraphrasing, but that was the essence of it, as I recall.
If I'm ultimately proved wrong, I will be more than happy to concede.
As it is, however, this is just a pile-in on someone who isn't around to defend themselves.
Edited by TheJimi on Saturday 6th April 23:33
Although to be fair, I can't be arsed dying on a Zed-shaped hill.
Edited by TheJimi on Sunday 7th April 07:44
Taffer said:
alangla said:
Did you not say something a while ago along the lines of the idea of paying Remontowa (who should have won the stbox/Rustbox contract) to churn out clones of Finlaggan over & over again?
When the Finlaggan was built, Remontowa apparently offered to build sister ships at much reduced prices (as the design work was done, so just materials and labour). CMAL didn't take them up on the offer, as there was no funding/plan in place for further vessels.tbox/Rustbox contract) to churn out clones of Finlaggan over & over again?A couple of years down the line, and the Ullapool-Stornoway ferry, the Loch Seaforth was ordered, another one-off design which, while a great ship, was vastly more expensive than it needed to be.
Lessons learned? Well, the next ships ordered were the Glen Sannox/Rosa......
Parts that should have been hot dip galvanised had instead been painted with Halfordski zinc paint, the corrosion after a few years was incredible.
We thought it was exposed to seawater, but no, only fresh water.
Didn't give much confidence as to the rest of the build quality!
TheJimi said:
ZedLeg's posts are still available on PH to quote.
Can someone please quote his statement that indicates he is/was facing 50%+ tax?
I never saw him claim he was struggling by on minimum wage, or close to it. Rather, on a few occasions, I recall him mentioning a salary of £30k+ within the context of it having taken him a long time to get to that point after essentially pissing about - paraphrasing, but that was the essence of it, as I recall.
If I'm ultimately proved wrong, I will be more than happy to concede.
As it is, however, this is just a pile-in on someone who isn't around to defend themselves.
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=205&t=2061696&i=100Can someone please quote his statement that indicates he is/was facing 50%+ tax?
I never saw him claim he was struggling by on minimum wage, or close to it. Rather, on a few occasions, I recall him mentioning a salary of £30k+ within the context of it having taken him a long time to get to that point after essentially pissing about - paraphrasing, but that was the essence of it, as I recall.
If I'm ultimately proved wrong, I will be more than happy to concede.
As it is, however, this is just a pile-in on someone who isn't around to defend themselves.
Edited by TheJimi on Saturday 6th April 23:33
ZedLeg said:
After talking about income tax in the hypothetical I've been put into a situation where I have to make a decision about what I'm going to do.
Having some restructuring at work and I've been offered a promotion that's going to be based in Brighton. I can still mostly work from home but I will be required in the office occasionally. The salary increase will take me into the higher tax rate in Scotland but not England, so do I move to Brighton bearing in mind that housing costs are looking to be double what I pay here or stay, pay the higher tax on a little of my salary and put up with a long commute a couple of times a month?
I'm leaning towards the latter at the moment.
Having some restructuring at work and I've been offered a promotion that's going to be based in Brighton. I can still mostly work from home but I will be required in the office occasionally. The salary increase will take me into the higher tax rate in Scotland but not England, so do I move to Brighton bearing in mind that housing costs are looking to be double what I pay here or stay, pay the higher tax on a little of my salary and put up with a long commute a couple of times a month?
I'm leaning towards the latter at the moment.
TheJimi said:
If I was slating him, you almost certainly wouldn't have said anything but because it doesn't suit your narrative, it's a "crusade" and you're having a go at me.
Although to be fair, I can't be arsed dying on a Zed-shaped hill.
OK Jimi, you want to have the final word on this without actually getting the answer you were looking for....Although to be fair, I can't be arsed dying on a Zed-shaped hill.
TheJimi said:
Can someone please quote his statement that indicates he is/was facing 50%+ tax?
Zed stated in the previous iteration of this thread that a wage-rise was going to see him hit the marginal tax bracket for Scotland and that his employers had given him the offer of a relocation package to Brighton in good old Englandshire giving him the ideal opportunity to avoid his beloved Scottish Marxist Green pretenders' taxation policy.Considering the history of the political representation of Brighton you would have thought this would have been an ideal fit for him, but he hinted at it not being a move he would consider, partly (as it later transpired) because of his partner's 'income' being as a result of the parallel Scottish benefits system being a bit, shall we say, laissez fair.
That should be enough for you to find what you are looking for.
Rufus Stone said:
This appears to be the best thread to say I'm saddened to learn Zed has been banned. NP&E is fast becoming an echo chamber.
Zed wasn't banned for his political opinions. He's no martyr.ETA. I see someone beat me to it!
Edited by Evercross on Sunday 7th April 10:57
TheJimi said:
If I was slating him, you almost certainly wouldn't have said anything but because it doesn't suit your narrative, it's a "crusade" and you're having a go at me.
Although to be fair, I can't be arsed dying on a Zed-shaped hill.
'Doesn't suit my narrative' Although to be fair, I can't be arsed dying on a Zed-shaped hill.
Edited by TheJimi on Sunday 7th April 07:44
You really do come out with some idiotic posts sometimes.
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